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Title: U.S. Televangelist To Launch Christian Pro-israel Lobby
Source: Haaretz
URL Source: http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/701583.html
Published: Apr 2, 2006
Author: Shlomo Shamir
Post Date: 2006-04-02 19:56:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1582
Comments: 104

NEW YORK - Televangelist John Hagee told Jewish community leaders over the weekend that the 40 million evangelical Christians in the United States support Israel and that he plans to utilize this power to help Israel by launching a Christian pro-Israel lobby.

The lobby, called Christians United for Israel, is slated to launch in July, during a Washington conference in which hundreds of American evangelicals are slated to participate, Hagee said at a meeting of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, which represents 52 national Jewish groups. He also discussed the lobby with Israel's consul general in New York, Aryeh Mekel.

Hagee said his group would be a Christian - and more powerful - version of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a large pro-Israel lobby, and would target senators and congressmen on Capitol Hill. A quarter of congressmen are evangelicals, and many American legislators represent regions that include a large evangelical population, he said.

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Hagee - the founder and senior pastor of the evangelical Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, that claims an active membership of more than 18,000 - said the lobby's activities would be a "political earthquake."

In his meeting with Mekel, Hagee said he planned to establish an effective network of key activists across the United States who can be reached within 24 hours if necessary for emergency lobbying efforts. He said he has already appointed 12 regional directors who are to be responsible for lobby activities in their areas and that he plans to appoint representatives in every state and major city.

Hagee also said he would head a delegation of 500 evangelicals slated to visit Israel this summer.

"The evangelical population's support of Israel is very important," said Mekel yesterday.

The Israeli ambassador to the United States, Danny Ayalon, responded in a similar fashion while discussing the new lobby in February.

"We see Christians in the United States as true friends and important supporters on the basis of shared values, and we welcome their efforts to strengthen the ties between Israel and the U.S.," Ayalon said at the time.

Anti-Defamation League director Abe Foxman was a bit more cautious. He said Hagee's project should be welcomed, but added that Jews and Israelis should be both respectful and wary. Foxman noted that Hagee told the Conference of Presidents that the evangelical support Israel from a biblical perspective, but did not explain exactly what he meant.

Rabbi James Rudin, author of "The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us," said Sunday that Hagee - one of 20 evangelical leaders who met with Ariel Sharon during his last trip to Washington - has been known for many years as an enthusiastic advocate of Israel, and is a typical right-wing Christian supporter of the country.

Some 400 Christian community leaders met in San Antonio in February to establish the lobby. Other than Hagee, its leaders include evangelist George Morrison; fundamentalist Baptist minister Jerry Falwell; and Gary Bauer, president of the American Values organization aimed at protecting marriage, family and faith. All are well-known supporters of Israel, and considered hawkish.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

If Bertrand Russell were still alive, he could add this to his essay "Why I Am Not a Christian."


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-04-02   20:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

I often wonder why there is so much "need" to support Israel, or other nations. How come no one goes out of their way to support we the people right here in America?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-04-02   20:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: MUDDOG (#1)

Someone ought to unscrew Hagee's head and shit in it.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-04-02   22:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

"He ain't heavy; he's my brother."

Well, on second thought, he's pretty damned heavy. Let me call in a forklift.

Sam Houston  posted on  2006-04-03   13:26:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

I guess if Israel gets invaded, Rev. Hagee will be among the first, or at least his male relatives btween the ages of 17 and 40, will enlist and fight?

[i]Melissa Hughes is an American. Melissa Hughes is an American. Melissa Hughes is an American! -Alan Shore(James Spader) Boston Legal [/i]

The 7th MJS2U2  posted on  2006-04-03   13:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#2)

support we the people right here in America?

Just curious....... ya know.......... but you been dumping millions of dollars and millions more dollars of free advertising (so they can get more millions in donations - TAX FREE) into these bozos pockets? If not, then do not ask the simple questions like this........

The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.

richard9151  posted on  2006-11-27   20:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zoroaster (#3)

unscrew Hagee's head and shit in it.

They...already...did. That is why so much crap comes out when he opens his mouth........

The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.

richard9151  posted on  2006-11-27   20:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#2)

I often wonder why there is so much "need" to support Israel, or other nations.

Ask your pal Goldi - the one whose pocket you keep filled. Ass...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-27   20:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: The 7th MJS2U2 (#5)

I guess if Israel gets invaded, Rev. Hagee will be among the first, or at least his male relatives between the ages of 17 and 40, will enlist and fight?

No, they'll be sitting at home waiting to be "raptured" if the Arabs ever make another go and pushing the Jews into the sea. The real reason these "christian" offer their "help" to Israel.

"Yes, Israel. Here's some more money. Now keep killing Arabs so they finally get pissed enough to try and wipe you out again. At which point I'll be wisked away to heaven while you and the Arabs all die and then burn in hell forever."

If I were Israeli, can't say I'd want that kind of "help."

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-11-27   21:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Ask your pal Goldi - the one whose pocket you keep filled. Ass...

I have no need. Why do you have a compulsion to direct me?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

I have no need. Why do you have a compulsion to direct me?

He is afraid you will do something stupid.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   20:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Minerva (#11)

I never advanced SPAM as a meal for Y2K phenomena. Neither have I advanced a failed website called post liberty. I put all my money in the bank and watch JT crawl and twirl as he lives off the government trough.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

I never advanced SPAM as a meal for Y2K phenomena. Neither have I advanced a failed website called post liberty. I put all my money in the bank and watch JT crawl and twirl as he lives off the government trough.

jt figured out a way to make you pay for his retirement. that makes him smarter than you. he plays all day while you pay for it.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   20:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#10)

Why do you have a compulsion to direct me?

Me direct you?

Cecil B. Demille wouldn't be able to teach you to take a dump, you hapless sot.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   20:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#12)

That's right. JT relaxes all day why you pay the bills. This tells me that JT knows more about handling life than you do.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   20:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Morgana le Fay (#13)

He may think I am paying for his liberty. That's a cool assumption on his part playing around for years doing nothing upon the Internet.

Just so you know, I am one of those new millionaires that you find. Why? I put my money up .. selling an attractive quality about myself and capabilitiies. I am finding that my wealth is reflective of my good attitude and promotional skills about being a fine American.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

Why do you think Sally has anything to do with me?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#16)

I put my money up .. selling an attractive quality about myself and capabilitiies.

Like Jeff Gannon?

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   20:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Minerva (#18)

Sorry, I am not a Republican nor am I a Democrat. Nope. Think of me as a lover of women and individual rights.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   20:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#19)

How come ponchy won't speak to us?

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Minerva (#15)

I am thinking of taking out a first trustee loan to create a new server for patriots just like you.

What do you think of this investment opportunity?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#17)

Would Sally would be the Hebrew who treats adults like kindergarteners? The Zionist swine whose purse you fill? The hideous Wildebeest who is as comfortable in a dumpster as in a Temple on High Holiday?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#21)

I am thinking of taking out a first trustee loan to create a new server for patriots just like you.

What do you think of this investment opportunity?

we want to go back to wyoming at christmas and rent snowmobiles. if you are looking for a project to finance, you should send us the money for that.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Minerva (#20)

How come ponchy won't speak to us?

Because you suck donkey dicks. Don't take it personally, though.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#21)

Yes, it costs $200 per day for the snowmobile and the guide. We can get the hotel ourself.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

Because you suck donkey dicks. Don't take it personally, though.

Hitting the little umbrella drinks again? I think he is just afraid to come over here with all the women.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Would Sally would be the Hebrew who treats adults like kindergarteners? The Zionist swine whose purse you fill? The hideous Wildebeest who is as comfortable in a dumpster as in a Temple on High Holiday?

Gosh, JT ... you sound fairly pissed offed. Whats happening with that government grant you have? You want to blame me and Sally, a mere web-site owner?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo, Minerva, Jethro Tull (#24)

Because you suck donkey dicks. Don't take it personally, though

OH my goodness how some things never change!

Does Ponchy post here now?

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Minerva (#25)

Yes, it costs $200 per day for the snowmobile and the guide. We can get the hotel ourself.

Honest to GOD ... since you just brought $200 bucks a day .. over the past few months my portfolio has brought in OVER that amount each and every day. I must be damned lucky.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Diana (#28)

OH my goodness how some things never change!

Buckeroo can't communicate without being gross and stupid so you have to cut him some slack.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#27)

Gosh, JT ... you sound fairly pissed offed.

Me pissed off?

How in god's holy name could I be pissed off when all I do all day is watch football, DVDs and play on the 'net?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Diana, Morgana le Fay (#28)

OH my goodness how some things never change!

Don't forget our little witch, Morgana le Fay.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Diana (#28)

Does Ponchy post here now?

he came over for a short time about a week ago. he is going by the tori amos name 'Red Headed Piano Player' or something like that.

do you remember him from PL? he was pontius pilot there.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#28)

Be careful Diana. It appears his shipment of Irish Rose port arrived today.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

why don't you put the buckeroo/liberace quote on as your tag line? then three of us would have it.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

How in god's holy name could I be pissed off when all I do all day is watch football, DVDs and play on the 'net?

Well, to begin with ... I doubt you believe in God. Your whole life is about government. You worked your entire life for government, didn't you JT? You even got a pension, correct?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#12)

as he lives off the government trough.

A pension from the NYPD is a private plan, buck. It's not affiliated with the government. Its membership is sustained by personal deductions by the employees.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull, Buckaroo (#34)

Be careful Diana. It appears his shipment of Irish Rose port arrived today.

Since he stated that he is a millionaire I was going to ask him if he would marry me so I can quit my new job.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#36)

You might like this one. It is called a "Sandeep" and it is very popular in San Francisco:

Grape Nehi (2 oz vodka, 2 oz raspberry liqueur, lemon, blended with ice), given a gay extra splash by an accommodating bartender, who then crowns the drink with a spear of maraschino cherries and a paper umbrella.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Diana (#38)

Since he stated that he is a millionaire I was going to ask him if he would marry me so I can quit my new job.

We are going to get him to pay for our snowmobile trip. You can come too if you want, but we will have to get the plane ticket out of him too.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Minerva  posted on  2006-12-02   21:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#29)

If you are a Mormon I wouldn't mind being wife #3 or 4?

Oh wait, Mormons don't drink.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#36)

and further after JT retired from the NYPD, he worked in private industry for a Fortune 50 company, not governmental, from which he also receives a retirement pension, so your assertions are erroneous.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#37)

You know, christine .... here is is my suggestion for you. Kick back and watch the thread .. don't bump it ... as you don't know what you are talking about.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull, Minerva (#31)

How in god's holy name could I be pissed off when all I do all day is watch football, DVDs and play on the 'net?

That's what I want to do too.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Diana (#38)

Do it. The dope will never ask for a pre-nup and he'll get so loaded at the reception it will never be consummated - not that he can get it up anyway. You can potentially walk away with it all, providing he isn't wet dreaming this money thingie.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Morgana le Fay (#33)

do you remember him from PL? he was pontius pilot there.

I remember that, his nick name was Pee Pee.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#43)

i think you should contribute as much to this site as you contribute to LP.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Minerva, Buckaroo (#40)

We are going to get him to pay for our snowmobile trip. You can come too if you want, but we will have to get the plane ticket out of him too.

Yes I would like to go, that would be fun!

Bucky can you pay for my plane ticket too?

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

Do it.

Is this what we can expect from a government worker that has left the People in NYC in disarray?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Diana (#46)

I remember that, his nick name was Pee Pee.

it was. that was short for pontius pilot.

we have decided that we won't pick on him if he comes back. we plan to rehabilitate him so that he can associate with normal people.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Morgana le Fay (#47)

i think you should contribute as much to this site as you contribute to LP.

Don't worry baby .. with Indrid Cold on hold ... I am just watching; his wager must seal the deal.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Diana (#28)

Diana - can I come to Alaska to get out of the COLD?

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#43)

as you don't know what you are talking about.

here is my suggestion for you. don't bet on that because you'd lose.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Zoroaster (#3)

Someone ought to unscrew Hagee's head and shit in it

Nobody will put up the money for the brain transplant.

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2006-12-02   21:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#53)

christine -

I told you don't go where you are going. BACKOFF. If you examine the thread, I am on a defensive. More than that YOU are supporting a method to bring down 4um.
Take it easy ... allow us to take care of our own without management concers or considerations that may create havoc.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Diana (#41)

Oh wait, Mormons don't drink.

Don't count on that. And they consume more brain Pharms than any other major group.

A few months ago, at the remote and wild Utah site of Temple Canyon, a very pleasent Mormon family camped next to us.

They were drinking a Salt Lake beer named "Poligimy Pilsner" - "For When You're Having More Than One". And gave me a six pak. She was the great grand daughter of a major figure in Morman history. Hole in the Rock guy.

We had a wonderful night in the vastness of nowhere SE Utah. Nine thousand year old pictographs on the walls around us to remind of of those who have gone long before.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: tom007 (#52)

Diana - can I come to Alaska to get out of the COLD?

Sure! You and your family can stay at my place.

It's only 23 degrees here, except we're not getting much sunlight- or snow.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#49)

has left the People in NYC in disarray?

They threw a party when I left. As did I.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Diana (#57)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

Why would anyone throw a party for you?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Diana (#57)

t's only 23 degrees here, except we're not getting much sunlight- or snow.

Two little degrees predicted here tonite. Going to be burning the furniture soon.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#56)

Don't count on that. And they consume more brain Pharms than any other major group.

Really?! That is surprising to hear, since they won't even drink coffee.

There is an older retired Mormon couple who recently moved here as missionaries, the first Mormons I've ever met, they are very nice wholesome types.

They gave me a Book of Mormon which I've always been curious to read. I've never lived anywhere near Mormon country.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#60)

because i'm a nice guy. just ask me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull, diana (#59)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

We were somewhere around Homer and looked in to the streams there. It, to me was quite strange, seeing all those huge fish there.

I am pretty sure I have been in all fifty states. Some just an interstate ride through. My relaitives ask me what's the best state.

I say I like Utah, but Alaska is off the scale. It is a whole nother question - does not compute.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull, tom007 (#59)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

This time of year I would take him smelting which is fun, and the smelts are tasty, you can even eat the bones which have lots of calcium.

This is a good area to live in case of food shortages, as there is always food to be found in the wilds.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

They threw a party when I left. As did I.

Are you saying you walked away from your life with a "party?"

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: tom007 (#64)

I'd really, really like to see that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeroo (#66)

No, no, no.....I began a new chapter of the same life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull, tom007 (#60)

Buck you and JT can come smelting too!

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: tom007 (#64)

I say I like Utah, but Alaska is off the scale. It is a whole nother question - does not compute.

It's almost like another country, especially out here. No chain stores, and in the villages the Eskimos mostly speak Yupik.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Diana (#62)

Really?! That is surprising to hear, since they won't even drink coffee.

I agree with that - surprising. The hard core Morman's believe their high priest ascends to a special place at the top of one of the towers of the tabernacle in SLC.

There, in a sanctified ritual, he is belived to communicate DIRECTLY with G-d.

And his admomishmonts and revalations from G-d are found difficult to live up to.

Hence the guilt and pharmas.

The folks I camped with had no hang ups, so as always it is a generalization.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Diana (#69)

I have a fishing pole I bought at Wal-Mart.

If there anything tiny I can catch up there?

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-12-02   22:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#68)

What life do you have, JT? So far all I see is a loser about you. Everything about you is a crying shame. You are lucky that Christine is here to protect your sorry old ass collecting government pensions and grants.

I won't hurt you anymore. I realize you are way down there upon the socialist love fest cycle of life. You have nothing to say about your life, pal.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Diana (#69)

Buck you and JT can come smelting too!

It sounds like a Three Stooges episode, "A smelting we will go."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jethro Tull, diana (#67)

'd really, really like to see that.

The big fish in the streams thing is , to me, frekking strange. Yes, five pound fish, (I guess I didn't weigh them), sitting, by the dozens in these small streams. They were orange, It was late August.

I think they had sex and were doomed, (you know the feeling?) or some nasty natural thinggy like that.

Seemed to me like you could spear all you could carry. An Alskan told me the fish folks could come into your house and open your freezers to see if you broke the game laws, which, as I know nothing cannot comment on.

Maybe Diana can illuminate?

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#55)

i have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   22:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Diana (#57)

it was 35 degrees here in phoenix when I went to work in the morning a few days ago at 6 AM. I don't even have a jacket. Hope it gets back to normal soon.

Psalm 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-02   22:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#76)

have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

What on God's green Earth are you talking about? Just butt out of the discussion, will ya?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: YertleTurtle (#72)

I have a fishing pole I bought at Wal-Mart.

If there anything tiny I can catch up there?

Yes the smelts! You should come up here too!

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Diana (#79)

Yes the smelts! You should come up here too!

Ya know, you are going to regreat all these invatations when the air fares drop.

You can put me in the barn, I'll smoke all the fish with candles.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: buckeroo (#78)

ok. i've had enough of you. you "butt" out of here.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   22:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Diana (#79)

What is a smelt, anyway? With a name like that it sounds...kinda not tasty.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-12-02   22:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: tom007 (#75)

The big fish in the streams thing is , to me, frekking strange. Yes, five pound fish, (I guess I didn't weigh them), sitting, by the dozens in these small streams. They were orange, It was late August.

I think they had sex and were doomed, (you know the feeling?) or some nasty natural thinggy like that.

An Alskan told me the fish folks could come into your house and open your freezers to see if you broke the game laws, which, as I know nothing cannot comment on.

Maybe Diana can illuminate?

The thing with the salmon around Aug is freaky.

They are large fish, and normally they are silver in color on the outside, and the meat is orange on the inside.

They spawn in the streams, then they swim out into the ocean where they live for several years. Then they come back from the oceans into the streams where they were hatched to die (do they know it is time to die?).

But they sort of start to die when they hit the fresh water, they turn red/orange on the outside, and their heads turn a blackish/green. The meat inside turns white and almost no one eats it when it gets that way, except for some Eskimos. Then when they get to the place they were born they die, and you will find dead salmon all over those areas and the bears and ravens feast on their bodies. They say it smells real bad where they wash up on the river banks. And before they die they mate, the female releases eggs and they get fertilized by the males which drop their sperm sacs.

They have what I call the River Police, people who work for Fish and Game and such and they patrol looking for people who are illegally fishing. Mostly they go after the tourists who come for sports fishing, and they aren't much liked by anybody.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: christine (#81)

k. i've had enough of you. you "butt" out of here.

Good call. You gave him soooooo many chances. And he wasn't interested in women's cahsmere clothings, so I say good riddence.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: tom007 (#84)

And he wasn't interested in women's cahsmere clothings, so I say good riddence.

LOL!!!!! Tom youre a case!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-12-02   22:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: tom007 (#80)

You can put me in the barn, I'll smoke all the fish with candles.

I KNEW you would bring up those candles again, but hey it worked!

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Diana (#86)

I KNEW you would bring up those candles again, but hey it worked!

I smoke meat for fun, the idea of all the men leaving you to do it, and you comming up with candles..... is hard to forget.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: YertleTurtle, potential smelting-party posters (#82)

What is a smelt, anyway? With a name like that it sounds...kinda not tasty.

Smelts are a family, Osmeridae, of small anadromous fish. They are common in the North American Great Lakes, and run in large schools along the coastline during their spring migration to their spawning streams. The family consists of some 16 species in six genera.

The fish usually reach only 6 inches (15 cm) and are a food source for salmon and lake trout. It is one of the few fish that sportsmen are allowed to net, using dip nets, either along the coastline or in the streams. Some sportsmen also ice fish for smelt. Smelt are often fried and eaten whole.

Smelt roe is bright orange in color, and is often used to garnish sushi.

The Boy's Own Book of Outdoor Sports (early 1900s) adds:

In the United States this fish seldom exceeds ten inches in length, and the usual size is from five to eight inches. In South America they can grow to the length of two feet, are semi-transparent, and are most delicious eating.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#81)

ok. i've had enough of you. you "butt" out of here.

i think buck got a little confused about who was in charge here. sometimes the point needs to be reinforced.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   22:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: tom007 (#87)

I smoke meat for fun, the idea of all the men leaving you to do it, and you comming up with candles..... is hard to forget.

It was a married couple who are my neighbors, they have a cabin up the lakes and I was keeping their smoke house going for them that weekend while they were gone. That is how you make dry-fish which is similar to jerky.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   23:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Morgana le Fay, Buckaroo (#89)

Party's over : (

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   23:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Diana (#91)

ponchy will work up the nerve to come over soon. he is the same as buckeroo.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   23:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Diana (#91)

Party's over : (

Another ones starting soon.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   23:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Diana, Jethro Tull (#91)

I guess it's going to be quiet on Saturday nights without the brokeback- buckeroo.

but he's a millionaire. and he's got other web sites. and he's got his bottle. so he'll get along.

Psalm 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   1:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Red Jones, christine, Jethro Tull, tom007 (#94)

Is Buckaroo really banned? Permanently?

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   14:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Diana (#95)

I don't really know the answer. I guess time will tell. He hasn't posted since #78. and that drew a comment from christine that did seem to announce his banning.

hope your smelting adventures go well.

call me a communist call me an anarchist! CALL ME A TERRORIST! but don't call me a republican and don't call me a democrat

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   14:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Diana (#95)

he was engaging in his normal provocations and silliness for the sake of self- entertainment. he hurled tremendous insults at people routinely. and all I said was 'brokeback-buckeroo'. and he went crazy - and spewed all kinds of obscenity and strong passion.

call me a communist call me an anarchist! CALL ME A TERRORIST! but don't call me a republican and don't call me a democrat

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   15:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Red Jones, Jethro Tull, Minerva (#97)

I know it was sort of a weekly thing with him, I hadn't been on here for awhile but when I came on last night I saw it was the same weekend Buckaroo thing with JT and such. It had been going on for quite some time, I thought it was partly in jest, but I guess he has other forums to post on. I think the drinking made him behave the way he did, I'm just surprised he got banned as it takes a lot to get banned here. I seem to remember the broke-back-buckaroo comment from a few weeks ago, and the homo-erotic comments towards JT. Minerva might miss bantering with him a little, that was pretty comical.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   15:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Diana (#98)

ol' brokeback-buck was pretty harmless once you understood that he was a provocateur who said insulting things for fun. JT and him had fun trading insults. all that's harmless, although some might find it dis-tasteful, especially people who didn't understand brokeback-buck.

my comment about him was mild compared to some of his insults to others. and he went berserk. and I wouldn't have made that comment if he weren't the provocateur that he is. I was just giving him his own medicine.

call me a communist call me an anarchist! CALL ME A TERRORIST! but don't call me a republican and don't call me a democrat

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   15:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Red Jones (#99)

Those threads were a bit entertaining, though the line was crossed a bit at times. JT took it all in stride, he seemed to understand where it was all coming from, as did you.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-03   15:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Diana (#100)

and as soon as he went berserk I stopped posting in that incident several weeks ago. I did not flame with him.

nobody who knows buck takes that guy seriously.

I think he's probably a real smart guy - makes I bet an excellent living as a techie just as he says. but he's got issues. (who doesn't) he makes his public though. and when he drinks - he gets out of control.

call me a communist call me an anarchist! CALL ME A TERRORIST! but don't call me a republican and don't call me a democrat

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-03   15:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Diana, buckeroo, christine, Red Jones, Morgana Le Fay, Minerva (#98)

I'd say that telling the hostess/owner of a forum to BACKOFF and butt out of the discussion is taking it over the limit. Considering that buckeroo rarely contributes anything of substance and his visits to the site are mostly limited to Saturday night drunken churlishness, I think that Christine has been unusually accomodating and tolerant.

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-12-03   16:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Diana (#100)

Those threads were a bit entertaining, though the line was crossed a bit at times.

I got tired of him propositioning me. He kept sending me PM's saying he was the Liberace of the Internet and asking if I wanted come over a light his candelabra.

I am not AKA Stone.

Trace21231  posted on  2006-12-04   1:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Diana, Morgana le Fay, Jethro Tull, christine, farmfriend, EdCondon (#91) (Edited)

wrong thread sorry

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-07-31   8:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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