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Title: U.S. Televangelist To Launch Christian Pro-israel Lobby
Source: Haaretz
URL Source: http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/701583.html
Published: Apr 2, 2006
Author: Shlomo Shamir
Post Date: 2006-04-02 19:56:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1819
Comments: 104

NEW YORK - Televangelist John Hagee told Jewish community leaders over the weekend that the 40 million evangelical Christians in the United States support Israel and that he plans to utilize this power to help Israel by launching a Christian pro-Israel lobby.

The lobby, called Christians United for Israel, is slated to launch in July, during a Washington conference in which hundreds of American evangelicals are slated to participate, Hagee said at a meeting of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, which represents 52 national Jewish groups. He also discussed the lobby with Israel's consul general in New York, Aryeh Mekel.

Hagee said his group would be a Christian - and more powerful - version of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a large pro-Israel lobby, and would target senators and congressmen on Capitol Hill. A quarter of congressmen are evangelicals, and many American legislators represent regions that include a large evangelical population, he said.

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Hagee - the founder and senior pastor of the evangelical Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, that claims an active membership of more than 18,000 - said the lobby's activities would be a "political earthquake."

In his meeting with Mekel, Hagee said he planned to establish an effective network of key activists across the United States who can be reached within 24 hours if necessary for emergency lobbying efforts. He said he has already appointed 12 regional directors who are to be responsible for lobby activities in their areas and that he plans to appoint representatives in every state and major city.

Hagee also said he would head a delegation of 500 evangelicals slated to visit Israel this summer.

"The evangelical population's support of Israel is very important," said Mekel yesterday.

The Israeli ambassador to the United States, Danny Ayalon, responded in a similar fashion while discussing the new lobby in February.

"We see Christians in the United States as true friends and important supporters on the basis of shared values, and we welcome their efforts to strengthen the ties between Israel and the U.S.," Ayalon said at the time.

Anti-Defamation League director Abe Foxman was a bit more cautious. He said Hagee's project should be welcomed, but added that Jews and Israelis should be both respectful and wary. Foxman noted that Hagee told the Conference of Presidents that the evangelical support Israel from a biblical perspective, but did not explain exactly what he meant.

Rabbi James Rudin, author of "The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us," said Sunday that Hagee - one of 20 evangelical leaders who met with Ariel Sharon during his last trip to Washington - has been known for many years as an enthusiastic advocate of Israel, and is a typical right-wing Christian supporter of the country.

Some 400 Christian community leaders met in San Antonio in February to establish the lobby. Other than Hagee, its leaders include evangelist George Morrison; fundamentalist Baptist minister Jerry Falwell; and Gary Bauer, president of the American Values organization aimed at protecting marriage, family and faith. All are well-known supporters of Israel, and considered hawkish.

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#41. To: buckeroo (#29)

If you are a Mormon I wouldn't mind being wife #3 or 4?

Oh wait, Mormons don't drink.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#36)

and further after JT retired from the NYPD, he worked in private industry for a Fortune 50 company, not governmental, from which he also receives a retirement pension, so your assertions are erroneous.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#37)

You know, christine .... here is is my suggestion for you. Kick back and watch the thread .. don't bump it ... as you don't know what you are talking about.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull, Minerva (#31)

How in god's holy name could I be pissed off when all I do all day is watch football, DVDs and play on the 'net?

That's what I want to do too.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Diana (#38)

Do it. The dope will never ask for a pre-nup and he'll get so loaded at the reception it will never be consummated - not that he can get it up anyway. You can potentially walk away with it all, providing he isn't wet dreaming this money thingie.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Morgana le Fay (#33)

do you remember him from PL? he was pontius pilot there.

I remember that, his nick name was Pee Pee.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#43)

i think you should contribute as much to this site as you contribute to LP.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Minerva, Buckaroo (#40)

We are going to get him to pay for our snowmobile trip. You can come too if you want, but we will have to get the plane ticket out of him too.

Yes I would like to go, that would be fun!

Bucky can you pay for my plane ticket too?

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

Do it.

Is this what we can expect from a government worker that has left the People in NYC in disarray?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Diana (#46)

I remember that, his nick name was Pee Pee.

it was. that was short for pontius pilot.

we have decided that we won't pick on him if he comes back. we plan to rehabilitate him so that he can associate with normal people.

I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-12-02   21:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Morgana le Fay (#47)

i think you should contribute as much to this site as you contribute to LP.

Don't worry baby .. with Indrid Cold on hold ... I am just watching; his wager must seal the deal.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Diana (#28)

Diana - can I come to Alaska to get out of the COLD?

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#43)

as you don't know what you are talking about.

here is my suggestion for you. don't bet on that because you'd lose.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   21:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Zoroaster (#3)

Someone ought to unscrew Hagee's head and shit in it

Nobody will put up the money for the brain transplant.

"Don't Steal, the government hates competition."

ladybug  posted on  2006-12-02   21:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#53)

christine -

I told you don't go where you are going. BACKOFF. If you examine the thread, I am on a defensive. More than that YOU are supporting a method to bring down 4um.
Take it easy ... allow us to take care of our own without management concers or considerations that may create havoc.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Diana (#41)

Oh wait, Mormons don't drink.

Don't count on that. And they consume more brain Pharms than any other major group.

A few months ago, at the remote and wild Utah site of Temple Canyon, a very pleasent Mormon family camped next to us.

They were drinking a Salt Lake beer named "Poligimy Pilsner" - "For When You're Having More Than One". And gave me a six pak. She was the great grand daughter of a major figure in Morman history. Hole in the Rock guy.

We had a wonderful night in the vastness of nowhere SE Utah. Nine thousand year old pictographs on the walls around us to remind of of those who have gone long before.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: tom007 (#52)

Diana - can I come to Alaska to get out of the COLD?

Sure! You and your family can stay at my place.

It's only 23 degrees here, except we're not getting much sunlight- or snow.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#49)

has left the People in NYC in disarray?

They threw a party when I left. As did I.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Diana (#57)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

Why would anyone throw a party for you?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   21:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Diana (#57)

t's only 23 degrees here, except we're not getting much sunlight- or snow.

Two little degrees predicted here tonite. Going to be burning the furniture soon.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   21:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#56)

Don't count on that. And they consume more brain Pharms than any other major group.

Really?! That is surprising to hear, since they won't even drink coffee.

There is an older retired Mormon couple who recently moved here as missionaries, the first Mormons I've ever met, they are very nice wholesome types.

They gave me a Book of Mormon which I've always been curious to read. I've never lived anywhere near Mormon country.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   21:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#60)

because i'm a nice guy. just ask me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   21:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull, diana (#59)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

We were somewhere around Homer and looked in to the streams there. It, to me was quite strange, seeing all those huge fish there.

I am pretty sure I have been in all fifty states. Some just an interstate ride through. My relaitives ask me what's the best state.

I say I like Utah, but Alaska is off the scale. It is a whole nother question - does not compute.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull, tom007 (#59)

Take him Salmon fishing, Diana. I've always wanted to do that.

This time of year I would take him smelting which is fun, and the smelts are tasty, you can even eat the bones which have lots of calcium.

This is a good area to live in case of food shortages, as there is always food to be found in the wilds.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

They threw a party when I left. As did I.

Are you saying you walked away from your life with a "party?"

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: tom007 (#64)

I'd really, really like to see that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeroo (#66)

No, no, no.....I began a new chapter of the same life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull, tom007 (#60)

Buck you and JT can come smelting too!

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: tom007 (#64)

I say I like Utah, but Alaska is off the scale. It is a whole nother question - does not compute.

It's almost like another country, especially out here. No chain stores, and in the villages the Eskimos mostly speak Yupik.

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Diana (#62)

Really?! That is surprising to hear, since they won't even drink coffee.

I agree with that - surprising. The hard core Morman's believe their high priest ascends to a special place at the top of one of the towers of the tabernacle in SLC.

There, in a sanctified ritual, he is belived to communicate DIRECTLY with G-d.

And his admomishmonts and revalations from G-d are found difficult to live up to.

Hence the guilt and pharmas.

The folks I camped with had no hang ups, so as always it is a generalization.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Diana (#69)

I have a fishing pole I bought at Wal-Mart.

If there anything tiny I can catch up there?

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-12-02   22:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#68)

What life do you have, JT? So far all I see is a loser about you. Everything about you is a crying shame. You are lucky that Christine is here to protect your sorry old ass collecting government pensions and grants.

I won't hurt you anymore. I realize you are way down there upon the socialist love fest cycle of life. You have nothing to say about your life, pal.

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Diana (#69)

Buck you and JT can come smelting too!

It sounds like a Three Stooges episode, "A smelting we will go."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-02   22:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jethro Tull, diana (#67)

'd really, really like to see that.

The big fish in the streams thing is , to me, frekking strange. Yes, five pound fish, (I guess I didn't weigh them), sitting, by the dozens in these small streams. They were orange, It was late August.

I think they had sex and were doomed, (you know the feeling?) or some nasty natural thinggy like that.

Seemed to me like you could spear all you could carry. An Alskan told me the fish folks could come into your house and open your freezers to see if you broke the game laws, which, as I know nothing cannot comment on.

Maybe Diana can illuminate?

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#55)

i have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

christine  posted on  2006-12-02   22:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Diana (#57)

it was 35 degrees here in phoenix when I went to work in the morning a few days ago at 6 AM. I don't even have a jacket. Hope it gets back to normal soon.

Psalm 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-12-02   22:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#76)

have no idea what you're talking about. what i posted concerning JT has nothing whatsoever to do with this forum or its management.

What on God's green Earth are you talking about? Just butt out of the discussion, will ya?

your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine

buckeroo  posted on  2006-12-02   22:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: YertleTurtle (#72)

I have a fishing pole I bought at Wal-Mart.

If there anything tiny I can catch up there?

Yes the smelts! You should come up here too!

Diana  posted on  2006-12-02   22:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Diana (#79)

Yes the smelts! You should come up here too!

Ya know, you are going to regreat all these invatations when the air fares drop.

You can put me in the barn, I'll smoke all the fish with candles.

tom007  posted on  2006-12-02   22:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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