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Title: The Curious Case of Roger Stone
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02 ... e-curious-case-of-roger-stone/
Published: Feb 20, 2020
Author: Andrew P. Napolitano
Post Date: 2020-02-20 11:33:57 by Ada
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Views: 757
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Roger Stone is a gifted political consultant known for going the distance for his clients. He has worked for such marquee names as Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Tom Kean and Donald Trump. His expertise is the lawful destruction of the opposition candidacy — what is known in the trade as opposition research. In that process, he has made enemies, some of whom have sought to destroy him.

That process of destruction began a year ago, when he was ordered out of the bedroom that he shared with his wife, and out of their home at 5:30 in the morning by no less than 23 federal agents carrying assault weapons. Behind his home on a Fort Lauderdale canal was a government boat filled with federal agents. Above his home was a government helicopter also filled with feds. All of this was captured in real time by CNN, which the feds had unlawfully tipped off about the coming raid.

Notwithstanding the armada the government sent to fetch Stone, a Florida federal judge, who noted that a phone call to Stone’s lawyers would have produced him, released Stone without the obligation of posting bail. He was soon indicted for lying to Congress, intimidating a witness and obstruction of justice. Last fall, he was convicted on all counts, and the trial judge unconstitutionally prevented him from speaking publicly. The prosecutors recommended a 7- to 9-year sentence to the trial judge. In Stone’s case, he faces a maximum of 50 years in a federal prison. Lies the Government To... Andrew P. Napolitano Check Amazon for Pricing.

From where did the prosecutors get their numbers? Congress has enacted guidelines, which produce mathematical calculations as guides for federal judges. There was a time when these guidelines were mandatory, but a long-simmering uproar from the judicial and legal communities resulted in the guidelines becoming advisory. The statute achieving that goal was signed into law by Trump.

When Trump learned that the feds were seeking 7 to 9 years from Stone, he tweeted harsh criticism of the system and personnel that produced that recommendation.

The prosecution’s numbers were the product of numerous subjective evaluations of the facts in Stone’s case and in his personal background. In my career as a state judge in New Jersey, I sentenced more than 1,000 persons using a system similar to the current federal one. The guidelines give the judge a range, and the judge can deviate, upward or downward, based on the facts in the case. Facts, not bias.

Some of the questions that justify deviations are: Is the defendant remorseful? Does he consider his criminal behavior the cost of doing business? Is the defendant a danger to society? Was his threat to kill a witness’s cat real or fanciful? Did he even have the present apparent ability to kill the cat?

If you love Stone, you will have one set of answers. If you hate him, you will have another. If you are truly neutral — as judges, but not prosecutors, must be — you will base your answers only on the evidence in the case.

When Attorney General William Barr learned of Trump’s displeasure with the recommendation from the prosecutors, he made it known that he would offer to the trial judge a different recommendation. Upon learning that, the four prosecutors in the case resigned.

Then, on the same day that the prosecutors resigned, the foreperson of the jury — herself a lawyer — outed herself as a stalwart opponent of all things Trump and a supporter of the now-resigned prosecution team.

Barr’s intervention in the case set off a firestorm in the Department of Justice, as long-standing DOJ procedures give federal prosecutors the discretion to suggest punishments for defendants whom they have prosecuted — with little input from their superiors. When Barr bigfooted his prosecutors and they resigned, all hell broke loose among the thousands of prosecutors across the country employed by the DOJ.

Then Barr went on national television and, with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek, criticized Trump for his tweets, which he described as a “running commentary… that make it impossible for me to do my job.” At first, those of us who monitor these things could not believe our eyes or ears. Was Barr publicly challenging Trump to cease a process that has brought the president unimaginable success? Of course not. This was a political effort to quell the uprising among his troops, and a dog whistle to Trump that the DOJ gets his messages.

All this has created a monstrous headache for the trial judge, but the judiciary has the tools with which to address this. The judge needs to call Stone’s lawyers and the resigned prosecutors into her courtroom, along with the jury foreperson. She should interrogate the foreperson. Why didn’t you tell us of your antipathy to Trump? Don’t you know as a lawyer that even an accurate answer can be misleading and thus frustrate a criminal trial? Are you, were you, a truly neutral juror?

And to the resigned prosecutors: Why did you resign from the case? Did you know of the foreperson’s prejudices? Would you want a juror who felt about the prosecution the same way this juror felt about Trump and his supporters?

Stone continues to maintain his innocence — now more so knowing he was tried unfairly. And he is entitled to a new trial, no matter what his jury found. Why? Because it is better that a thousand guilty persons go free than one unfairly be punished. Because the history of human freedom is the history of paying careful attention to procedure. Because in America we only punish those who were fairly convicted. Because politics and bias have no moral or lawful place in American criminal prosecutions.

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#1. To: Ada, pardon Assange and Manning first, MAGA (#0) (Edited)

President Donnell Trump needs to pardon Julian Assange & Bradley Whatever Manning today, and maybe Stone someday.

Fire Barr, Pompeo and the rest of his administration too.



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hondo68  posted on  2020-02-20   11:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada, 4 (#0) (Edited)

the armada the government sent to fetch Stone, ... no less than 23 federal agents carrying assault weapons. Behind his home on a Fort Lauderdale canal was a government boat filled with federal agents. Above his home was a government helicopter also filled with feds.


From the Comments @ redstate.com:

"Mark Steyn just noted that there were more heavily armed troops sent to arrest Roger Stone than the government sent to Benghazi."

"Sounds like a Soviet-style show trial to me."

"the 'deep state' is far worse than anyone has thought possible."

"Pretending that lefties would ever be impartial over something that impacts their will-to-power push for a totalitarian state is delusional."

"He should have a cause of action for malicious prosecution. They ruined him financially, which was their true objective to begin with, just as it was with Mike Flynn."

"Should have been an automatic mistrial."

"doesn't a judge face a bit of jeopardy when they are shown to have performed judicial misconduct?"

"Yes, she can be reported to the Board of Judicial Review for her area (DC) for judicial misconduct when she was made aware of information that should have caused an immediate mistrial but chose to cover it up."

"But is the Board in DC? How likely is it that a DC Board of Judicial review will find anything objectionable"

"... 'Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.' ... The District of Colombia is not a State. It seems to me that if crimes are found to have been committed in the District of Colombia...as defined in the Constitution...Congress might be able to stipulate where those politically charged trials may be held. I'd propose that justice and fairness could best be served by the Congress allowing the DOJ to charge a defendant accused of committing crimes in DC in the jurisdiction of any Federal District Court within a 100 mile radius of DC. Appeals to the DOJ's selected venue would naturally be allowed before the DC Circuit with further appeals to the Supreme Court as necessary. This should allow for at least some politically sensitive trials to take place away from DC's politically-poisoned atmosphere. There are plenty of venues in WV, PA, DE, and outside the DC exurbs in VA and MD where a fair trial can be held."

"Seems to me that Stone's indictment & prosecution was 'the fruit of the poisonous tree' and therefore he should be released"


Fruit of the poisonous tree - Wikipedia

a legal metaphor in the United States used to describe evidence that is obtained illegally. The logic of the terminology is that if the source (the "tree") of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the "fruit") from it is tainted as well
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The doctrine underlying the name was first described in Silverthorne Lumber Co. v. United States, 251 U.S. 385 (1920). The term's first use was by Justice Felix Frankfurter in Nardone v. United States (1939). Such evidence is not generally admissible in court. For example, if a police officer conducted an unconstitutional (Fourth Amendment) search of a home and obtained a key to a train station locker, and evidence of a crime came from the locker, that evidence would most likely be excluded under the fruit of the poisonous tree legal doctrine. ... The "fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine is an extension of the exclusionary rule, which, subject to some exceptions, prevents evidence obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment from being admitted in a criminal trial. Like the exclusionary rule, the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine is intended to deter police from using illegal means to obtain evidence. [Ref. Russiagate/Spygate hoaxes - duping the FISA Court with rubbish rumors as 'evidence' for surveillance warrants that led to Mueller's abuses of power on behalf of the Commiecrat Coup devisers.]

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2020-02-25   16:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

intimidating a witness

It is instructive to hear what this witness has to say.

There is not much of this stuff out in the MSM - or available in most other places.

An interview is up now on YouTube.

Whatever his pretty much leftist political leanings, Randy Credico makes it clear that he had nothing to do with the Wikileaks email intel, and it’s reasonable to conclude from the interview that Roger Stone is something of a professional bullshitter that never had any real connection to the net based publisher himself.

It’s also clear that:

1. Stone himself volunteered to testify to Congress where he put his own head in the noose. It’s plain that he should have kept his trap shut.

2. Credico was subject to pressure from Stone with whom he shared influence and intelligence, despite political differences. Credico nevertheless believes that Stone does not deserve prison time for tampering.

3. The Trump-Russia-Wikileaks conspiracy is a giant fraud.

randge  posted on  2020-02-25   18:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#3)

It’s also clear that:

1. Stone himself volunteered to testify to Congress where he put his own head in the noose. It’s plain that he should have kept his trap shut.

2. Credico was subject to pressure from Stone with whom he shared influence and intelligence, despite political differences. Credico nevertheless believes that Stone does not deserve prison time for tampering.

3. The Trump-Russia-Wikileaks conspiracy is a giant fraud.

BINGO! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-25   18:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

BINGO! ;)

Stone is a talented but crazed egomaniac up on charges with fanatic for a judge.

That Berman Jackson is all king hell for protecting the privacy of jurors.

She should be facing charges herself - for judicial misconduct.

randge  posted on  2020-02-25   19:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

She should be facing charges herself - for judicial misconduct.

No doubt there.

But did you see where the Jury Forewoman's social media posts identify her as being anti-Trump? She never should have been allowed on that Jury. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-25   19:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#5)

Stone is a talented but crazed egomaniac up on charges with fanatic for a judge. ... She should be facing charges herself - for judicial misconduct.


Archiving an example of her judicial misconduct in his case:

Andrew Napolitano on Roger Stone case ... YouTube | Published on Feb 20, 2020 by Fox News

@ 2:01, the judge has manifested an antipathy towards Stone. She has silenced him from speaking out publicly even after the trial - Freedom of Speech violation ; He earns his living by public speaking and she won't let him speak publicly.

@ 4:06, judge biased - by silencing Stone after the conviction, she has shown an antipathy towards his Free Speech rights

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2020-02-25   20:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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