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Title: Trump and The Politics of Coronavirus
Source: Gold Goats 'n Guns
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03 ... d-the-politics-of-coronavirus/
Published: Mar 2, 2020
Author: Thomas Luongo
Post Date: 2020-03-02 12:42:27 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 842
Comments: 22

Normally I agree with Moon of Alabama’s analysis on foreign affairs and certainly geopolitics. But the latest post discussing the political fallout from spread and potential mismanagement of nCOVID-19 is nothing short of fantasy.

I don’t disagree that China, assuming that the numbers they’ve published are any more real than a lot of their economic numbers, has shown remarkable power to stop the spread of the disease.

And they have done so so as to disrupt supply chains all across the world. This week the equity markets finally came to terms with the real world effects of such a disruption, even if the disease itself is, in the end, controllable and the response to it to this point, overblown.

I’m not saying it is one way or the other. I’ve heard every conspiracy theory about this virus you can imagine. It speaks directly to the power of rumor and the ability for people absent good information to make up stories that fit their personal bias.

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Under the U.S. medical system testing will be expensive for the patients. Insurances may not pay for it. Many people will be unable or unwilling to spend money on it. Care for serious cases will also be limited by high prices. This guarantees that the virus will spread further. China was smart enough to guarantee 100% state coverage for testing and all necessary care. The U.S. should follow that principle but is unlikely to do so.

Trump announced that Vice-President Pence, a man who does not believe in science, will lead the response. The libertarian and neo-liberal approach to the problem will further the epidemic’s growth. Only after it becomes really severe will the necessary measures be taken.

His assumptions are ridiculous. People in the U.S. get the annual flu shot, which is demonstrably ineffective, by the millions. The flu shot is subsidized through insurance and government redistribution of wealth via taxes.

If the threat becomes truly real to people in the U.S. they will get tested. The Trump administration will allocate billions to it and the people here, already inculcated over the generations in public health will respond accordingly.

If China was able to test 320,000 people that quickly, and the test is so effective, why is the CDC going it alone developing its own test and not just using China’s?

This is what we pay governments to do, coordinate disaster response, work with other governments, provide basic infrastructure for society.

The dysfunctional medical system in the U.S. isn’t a function of the “libertarian or neo-liberal approach,” which itself is a criticism that doesn’t understand the very real difference between those two schools of thought.

It’s a function of the ever-growing push to socialize medical care (and everything else) in the first place.

The great myth of central planning is that capital can be rationally allocated through the elimination of profit and incentive. And that will just magically produce the right outcomes for society.

Because in the end, the U.S. doesn’t have a libertarian medical system. It has a socialized system so arcane and expensive that is designed to make the argument for more control over public health not less.

But this isn’t B.’s biggest error. His biggest error is in thinking that Donald Trump is some kind of bastion of the free market and in favor of the rational allocation of scarce resources through it.

He’s not. He never has been and he won’t ever be. Trump likes markets he can control and doesn’t believe in open competition. If he did he wouldn’t erect trade barriers and engage in economic strangulation.

So to say that Trump is in trouble because of this virus to this point is nonsensical.

Trump’s reelection chances are sinking as Covid-19 cases rise. The incompetence of his administration will come under new light. The stock markets will continue to tumble and erase the economic gains Trump had claimed. Bernie Sanders’ chances of winning, if he survives the pandemic, will increase as his prime campaign promise -Medicare for all- will become even more acceptable when the problems with the current U.S. healthcare system come under new public scrutiny.

Trump’s re-election chances will rise with this coronavirus. Those who hate him will hate him more, like B. (who is German and doesn’t vote here). Those who love him will rally around him if he leads.

And on this point I agree with Pat Buchanan who also feels like this is an opportunity for Trump to rise above the petty politics of Congress and show leadership and strength, allocating resources at his disposal the same way he did for domestic natural disasters like the recent Hurricanes that pounded the Gulf Coast and Florida.

… the president occupies what Theodore Roosevelt called the “bully pulpit,” the White House. He can use that pulpit daily to command the airwaves and inform, lead, unite and direct the nation during what could be a months-long crisis. And Trump alone has the power to declare a national emergency, should that be needed.

If Trump acts as a leader, urging unity in the struggle to contain the virus and discover a vaccine, the hectoring from the Democratic left, already begun, can come to be seen as unpatriotic.

And this is something he can and will do. I wan’t crazy about Trump’s presser the other day, blasting the CDC for creating a panic which Trump feels helped drop the stock markets this week.

That’s not leadership. That’s whining. And the biggest threat to Trump’s re-election at this point is Trump, not Bernie Sanders or whomever the Democrats nominate after stealing it from him.

The biggest fear the leftists in the U.S. and Europe have at this point is that Trump and his band of ‘know-nothings’ like Pence actually steer the U.S. through the upcoming crises well. Getting Libertarianism... Hans-Hermann Hoppe Best Price: $3.95 Buy New $7.95 (as of 12:25 EST - Details)

The CDC is facing a large budget cut so it’s no shock that they would try to blindside Trump to make him look reckless now. But Trump shouldn’t take that bait and move past it.

What if the U.S. healthcare system survives this? What if the doom porn purveyors are all wrong? What if COVID-19 really isn’t that much worse, in the end, than the annual flu?

Trump can and will make easy political work of his opponents trying to hector him for spending cuts by reminding them all that they have done nothing but block his ability to control the border to the country.

If anything this will strengthen Trump’s hand across a number of real issues.

During times of crisis and/or war how often is there a radical change in leadership? Not often. It will take a lot more than a few thousand points off the Dow and some fear-mongering to shift the electoral map of the U.S. far enough for Bernie Sanders to beat him.

Public health crises are not the time to grind political axes. The fact that even the best critics of the U.S. succumb to that tells you the depth to which the failures of Marxism scare them.

Because make no mistake, any failure to contain this virus will come from our having too much faith in the myth of central planning, not in not having enough of it.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Why does this author complain about having "heard every conspiracy theory about this virus you can imagine"? Then doesn't share a single one with us? Could it be that he's trying to shove some dirt over the Rabbit Hole?

This author also ridicules the natural inclination of most people to make sense of the entire Corona-Virus narrative as though HE is Yoda Jr.

The author shares what is his own "Conspiracy Theories" and "biases" *yawn*....They don't come close to addressing any of the complicated dynamics of the "Corona Virus."

HIS WEAK CONCLUSION:

"This will strengthen Trump’s hand across a number of real issues."

*eyeball roll* Analysis and insight score: 1

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-02   13:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada, ALL (#0)

I wan’t crazy about Trump’s presser the other day, blasting the CDC for creating a panic which Trump feels helped drop the stock markets this week.

That’s not leadership. That’s whining.

And here the author is whining about Trump's whining THAT WAS LEGIT.

The CDC, Dems, and MSM are ALL trying to politicize and weaponize this Virus (and fear) to the max -- EXACTLY because they hope it's a "Hail Mary" issue that somehow defeats Trump at the polls in 2020.

The average person absorbs and reflects the confusion and fear-porn as framed by the PTB's Messengers of mayhem -- MSM-Dem machine.

*Their* job now precisely is to spread enough disinfo, misinfo, propaganda...and creating a "pandemic" -- whether real or imagined. They are openly blaming Trump FOR the Virus.

Do yourselves a favor -- probe onward to alternative "alternative" news sources. THEY are doing the REAL digging. Again -- the author missed the mark by two miles. Lew Rockwell's glory days are over.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-02   14:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#2)

Seattle, King County WA gov goobers on coronavirus.



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hondo68  posted on  2020-03-02   16:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#1)

Why does this author complain about having "heard every conspiracy theory about this virus you can imagine"? Then doesn't share a single one with us?

We've heard most of them too. Not necessary to review them in this article which is about the effect WuFlu will have on the upcoming elections. Author (not Lew Rockwell) asserts nothing averse to Trump; and unless it could be proved this was a US conspiracy and The Donald had preknowledge, he is probably correct.

Lew's website has evolved over the years from one where Lew contributed many articles and he had a stable to one where he just picks up on other writers. Might not be an improvement but that's the way it is.

Ada  posted on  2020-03-02   19:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#4)

WuFlu

I like it, hope it catches on.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-02   19:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#3)

Hondo, we aren't going to watch an hour of this performance art.

Can you brief us on the propaganda?

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-03   16:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#4)

We've heard most of them (CTs) too.

But have we really?

Besides the usual ones involving stolen Canadian/US lab "viruses" are others. Like one revelation ties "special" inhaled Chemtrail particulates that are activated by 5G microwaves.

In any case it is almost impossible to discern between "conspiracy" and truth these days. The new rule of thumb:

Gummint/MSM Narrative = Actual Conspiracy/Default Lie
Anything Else: Probable Truth

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-03   16:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#4)

After all, the piece is interesting in what author Thomas Luongo says (I knew Rockwell didn't pen this)...and does NOT say.

...This article which is about the effect WuFlu will have on the upcoming elections.

Affecting the Election of Trump via stock market and economic slow down is easily suspected. But why mention it if it's an obvious Gimme?

Author (not Lew Rockwell) asserts nothing averse to Trump; and unless it could be proved this was a US conspiracy and The Donald had preknowledge, he is probably correct.

Yes, again -- I did realize Lew Rockwell was NOT the author of this opinion piece -- it was just one more person's weak subjective speculation and shot in the dark -- while dismissing the opinions of everyone else.

Well Ada -- if the author wants to suggest Trump has some degree of fore-knowledge (or even post-knowledge), again, WE could go there.

Here is the capping his entire take on the Corona-Virus "crisis":

"Make no mistake, any failure to contain this virus will come from our having too much faith in the myth of central planning, not in not having enough of it."

I find it strange that Author Thomas Luongo seems content on buying hook, line and sinker ANY account from China and the non-stop fear that the MSM/CDC has been driving 24/7. What about his lack of curiosity about THE truth and (as suggesting in his above quote) MORE "central planning," aka GUMMINT CONTROL?

Whether Corona-Virus is just the DS weaponizing fear OR an actual virus, then yes, Trump DOES know (what it is/is not.)

But then what is Trump to do in this case?

Are Luongo and others suggesting its time to quarantine cities where there are a few supposed outbreaks? Declare Martial Law based on MSM/CDC Deep State Fear and Loathing of the rest of us?

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-03   17:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#8)

I find it strange that Author Thomas Luongo seems content on buying hook, line and sinker ANY account from China and the non-stop fear that the MSM/CDC has been driving 24/7. What about his lack of curiosity about THE truth and (as suggesting in his above quote) MORE "central planning," aka GUMMINT CONTROL?

Whether Corona-Virus is just the DS weaponizing fear OR an actual virus, then yes, Trump DOES know (what it is/is not.)

But then what is Trump to do in this case?

China has officially denied a US plot as conspiracy theory as have the Russians. Not Iran and not non-official Russians. Anyway to get into those theories would kook up his narrow article on Trump's chances of re-election.

POTUS is usually not informed of the nastier doings of the intelligence community in order to protect him. He is on record as saying the virus (if, indeed it is a virus and not a bacteria) should start to diminish soon and be over by May, and he might be right.

Lew finally did weigh in on WuFlu from a libertarian perspective and as you might expect said to "follow the money".

Ada  posted on  2020-03-04   11:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#9) (Edited)

China has officially denied a US plot as conspiracy theory as have the Russians. Not Iran and not non-official Russians.

China can't really be believed at face value, can they? (Many say the Chicoms are partnered with the Sea Eye A). Iran and Russia are not fully partnered with the Globalist-NWO Plan...YET.

As far as any "plot," or conspiracy(s) to the Corona-Virus "news" cycle, plenty certainly can indeed be believed.

Can THE case of either one, the other, or actually ALL of the following be possible?:

1) Fear-Porn Psyop (battered/flinching wife syndrome)
2) An actual weaponized Lab-created VirusAnyway to get into those theories would kook up his narrow article on Trump's chances of re-election.

Not at all necessarily. Frankly, fear of "kooking up" ANY thing based on introducing facts and legit theories is exactly what the PTB are counting on.

Folks will NEVER find truth if they don't fear being ostracized while seeking it, Ada.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-05   12:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ada (#9) (Edited)

POTUS is usually not informed of the nastier doings of the intelligence community in order to protect him. He is on record as saying the virus (if, indeed it is a virus and not a bacteria) should start to diminish soon and be over by May, and he might be right.

POTUS is not informed by the so-called "Intel Communitah" NOT because they are "protecting" him; It's the contrary: They are trying to sabotage HIM -- as well as America.

As I suggested, though the works independently of Trump, some sources STILL know what they're up to at this juncture. THIS is the reason he dispensed knowledge on the waning effects of whatever "virus" this was.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-05   12:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator, All (#11)

Hey, Liberator. Listen and watch with care.

Military Checkpoint Positioned On I-15 North Of Las Vegas
4,564 views•Streamed live 3 hours ago

randge  posted on  2020-03-05   14:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#11)

We don't know exactly what this means, Liberator. But we are watching closely.

Be safe.

The U.S. Military is setting up a camp outside of Las Vegas
838 views•Mar 4, 2020

randge  posted on  2020-03-05   14:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#10)

China can't really be believed at face value, can they?

And they differ from all other governments how?

True dat their official position that this is a natural virus that leapt from wild animals is a bit difficult to accept, but they really can't admit or even speculate it was a bioweapon.

Ada  posted on  2020-03-05   16:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge, Ada (#12)

Thanks, Randge. Watched this guy's entire vid, observations, speculation, and...last comments that presumed Trump to "know more" than he's telling us.

Well, Trump DOES obviously know more. But my question would be: WOULD WE EVEN BELIEVE IT?

Moreover, would The Truth itself cause chaos, anarchy, and massive disruption in life processes?

I assume you've noticed Trump has kept on calling out the Swamp in public to let us know (with certainty) he's up, *we're* up against a hostile domestic alternative, shadow governance (for example, With respect to 911, from the beginning he knew the buildings were rigged. ON RECORD. Trump knows a LOT of the PTB that he cannot divulge at this time.)

So back to this gentleman's observations and warnings...

So what IS going on?

Up thread I posed this:

Can THE case of either one, the other, or actually ALL of the following be possible?:

1) Fear-Porn Psyop (battered/flinching wife syndrome)
2) An actual weaponized Lab-created Virus

Could the following be further possible scenarios?:

Is Trump using this "crisis" (real or imagined) to use military assets to:

1) Crack down and lock down the border from further illegal invaders?

2) USE military forces and martial law as cover....TO ARREST THE COUP PLOTTERS and GLOBALIST CABAL and finally "CLEAN HOUSE"?

3) Doing this...FOR SHOW?

No, I do not believe the "Corona Virus" is anything but a local ChiCom-driven phenomena. But it succeeds in helping catapult a helpful narrative in ANY case for the PTB Cabalists/Kabbalists who I believe share the same exact slavery/Totalitarianism agenda as the fascist Chicoms.

I also believe Trump and his allies have been at war and opposed to the same Evil Cabal that is run/controlled by same Globalists-Satanists who've been supporting Hillary and 0bama.

THEY are using the MSM to catapult the fear, desperately attempting to co-opt and weaponize the "Corona Virus" in a world-wide FAKE pandemic. Chaos, panic anarchy is this Cabal's last strong card to play in order to stop the re-election of Donald J. Trump.

Why?

Because...THEY KNOW THEY ARE ALL GOING DOWN AFTER THE ELECTION.

No doubt; LOTS of moving parts here. Complicated by design. We've all got to watch our 6, not panic, keep calms-- but pay attention. And help others do the same.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-06   15:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#14)

And they (China) differ from all other governments how?

Have you not really been paying much attention to how they've been quashing civil rights, human rights, and ANY rights there? There's wholesale mass murders going on.

What's taking pace there is the worst kind of nightmares out of Black Mirror/Twilight Zone episodes.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-06   15:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ada (#14)

...Their (ChiCom Inc) official position that this is a natural virus that leapt from wild animals is a bit difficult to accept, but they really can't admit or even speculate it was a bioweapon.

The "mystery" of whether this actually IS a bioweapon and extent of danger works better as the best kind of fear-porn, doesn't it?

TV = Perception = Reality (especially for the masses of brainwashed pods.)

The ChiComs are allies with the Globalist-Satanic Cabal of elites of the West. Their obvious collective intention has been to utterly ruin, overwhelm, and smash Western Civ, eliminate Christians, usher in their One World Govt, reduce the world's populations, and...control & enslave the Serfs.

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-06   15:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#13)

The U.S. Military is setting up a camp outside of Las Vegas

Any idea how the Left-Dem media is reacting to this? (or are they not reporting it?)

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-06   15:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#17)

reduce the world's populations

In the movie Red Dawn when the Wolverines found the downed American pilot, he explained some things about what had happened.

One thing he said was, "There are 750 million screaming Chinese." One of the kids said, "I thought there were a billion Chinese."

The pilot said, "That was before they got nuked." :-O

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-06   16:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#18)

Any idea how the Left-Dem media is reacting to this? (or are they not reporting it?)

Been kinda busy and from the little I've seen the Left-Dem media has got nuttin to say about a U.S. military camp outside of Las Vegas.

Search godlike productions. There's a thread bubbling on about this, but I'll warrant most these folks know little or no more than we do.

Some 283 cases of that stupid virus confirmed within the US with seventeen active in the state of Texas. Holy smoke. South by Southwestr Festival is cancelled in Austin. Things are waxing hysterical.

We are prepared as we can be on this end. Hope you are well Olde Paint. ; )

randge  posted on  2020-03-06   18:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#17)

The ChiComs are allies with the Globalist-Satanic Cabal of elites of the West. Their obvious collective intention has been to utterly ruin, overwhelm, and smash Western Civ, eliminate Christians, usher in their One World Govt, reduce the world's populations, and...control & enslave the Serfs.

IOW the Jews of the Orient.

Ada  posted on  2020-03-06   19:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#16)

Have you not really been paying much attention to how they've been quashing civil rights, human rights, and ANY rights there? There's wholesale mass murders going on.

We do the same except that our wholesale mass murders, so far, have been conducted outside the country.

Ada  posted on  2020-03-06   19:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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