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Title: You Really Have No Idea
Source: Raconteur Report
URL Source: http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com ... u-really-have-no-idea.html?m=1
Published: Mar 17, 2020
Author: Aesop
Post Date: 2020-03-17 18:01:35 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 9838
Comments: 66

This isn't a ramble. I have a number of lines of thought I've been stewing over at work all weekend, and I'll be going down each one until I'm done. Let's begin.
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4000 is the number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S. now. (That we know about. Reality could be 100,000 or more.)

If that original number doubles seventeen more times, the product is a number larger than the populations of the U.S. (330M), Mexico(137M), and Canada(37M), combined. IOW, it's virtually everywhere in North America at that point. (No, I'm not particularly concerned about the banana republics between Mexico and South America in this regard. They can lump it.)

What I've read is that the outbreak is doubling every 4-6 days. So somewhere between 68 and 102 days from today, the shit sandwich on this continent reaches full maturity.

If the spread of the disease is moving at that rate. If the current voluntary measures don't halt that growth, or even slow that pace. If it doesn't run out of people stupid enough to keep doing things to spread it.

With the above caveats: May 22nd, to June 26th, give or take. It crests 100M cases a week to two earlier.

Long before then, we'll have a great view of how lethal it is, and how many cases are serious. So by somewhere between mid-May and Mid-June, we'll either have metric f**ktons of people requiring hospitalization, and dead, or not. How much better or worse it is then will be a foolproof look at whether this is a nothingburger, or Spanish Flu. Oh, and if there are really 100,000 cases now, we get there a full month earlier.

Now maybe you can figure out why POTUS said this will last through July or August, at minimum.

And remember, the 85% (or more, or less) of all infected people who have symptoms ranging from none, to moderate flu, aren't the problem. They never were. They'll be just fine.

It's the hordes dying in droves, and crashing the entire U.S. medical system that could put a kink in this country that'll last for decades. And crashing the stock market. And everyone going broke. And crashing the economy even after this passes. And so on. And so on. And so on.

That's 5 1/2 months from now. How much food do you have?
How much cash on hand do you have?
How much of each of those does Gilligan's family have, and how far are they from you?
So, how much ammo do you have??

That little thought exercise should concentrate your minds wonderfully.

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Now, a reminder about some other numbers. 900,000 staffed hospital beds.
93,000 staffed ICU beds.
60,000 ventilators.
1,000,000 medical doctors.
2,800,000 registered nurses.
106,000 respiratory therapists.
That is the army you're going to war with, in this pandemic.

And when I say staffed beds, I don't just mean doctors, nurses, and RTs. I also mean D.Os, PAs, EMTs, CNAs, pharmacists, radiology techs, facilities engineers, clean-up crew, supply workers, registration clerks, administration people, IT geeks, and hundreds of other clerks and jerks, without whose constant efforts and hard work, plus medical supplies in small mountains every single day, Dr. Hero and Nurse Awesome are just a couple of people in funny pajamas, and with about as much lifesaving ability on their own as there is actual magical ability in Rupert Grint and Matthew Lewis.

If it was just beds we needed, we could take all the surplus army cots from the 2M guys RIFFed from Uncle Sam in the 1990s, unfold them, and Presto!, have another 2M spots to dump patients. It doesn't work like that.

I bring this up because if "only" 10% of Kung Flu victims require a hospital bed, because they're really that sick, then long about the time we hit 16,000,000 victims, in (44 to 66 days, so let's average it to) 55 days, we have more patients than we have beds for them. At that point, we're Italy. Say about May the 12th or so. (We may also have up to 480,000 dead, which if it happens would have crushed every ICU in the country 5 times over long before that point.)

We've covered this before, but it bears keeping in mind. Keep your thumb in this spot, as we move along.

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This weekend, all considered, from purely a Kung Flu cases standpoint, was just ducky.
We had maybe half a dozen to ten "rule-outs" (meaning "maybe it is, maybe it isn't; look for other things that rule out Kung Flu. Like actual influenza flu.) Given the abysmally slow return time, I believe at least one was positive for Kung Flu.
"Ten patients? Is that all?!? Aesop is fulla sh*t! This is a big conjob nothingburger!" - every two-digit IQ soopergenius who ever read a word I wrote on this topic.
And herewith, we digress for a bit.

Scenario One: You're in the military. In a combat zone. The enemy is known to have chemical weapons. One day, a shell whistles over from the enemy side of things, and goes off with a less than enthusiastic bang. Then another, and another. You see a hazy white cloud forming at each impact site, coalescing into a large white cloud, now drifting lazily towards your position.

Do you
a) send the company dumbass Gilligan over there to have a sniff for you, and report back
b) send the whole company of men over, and see what happens
c) put Gilligan in temporary command, and have him lead the whole company over there
d) Yell "GAS! GAS! GAS!", while clanging metal-on-metal, and then rapidly don your MOPP gear and gas mask, before the cloud blows into your position, and prepare to treat anyone nearby who was slower on the uptake.

Scenario Two: You're working in a hospital. An ambulance arrives, and unloads a patient spurting blood everywhere, who tells you he just arrived from the Congo, where he runs an HIV and Ebola Survivors Clinic, and tripped on the jetway and cut his leg open.

Do you
a) run over and apply direct pressure with your bare hands, while fountaining blood cascades into your eyes, nose, and mouth, and lick yourself clean afterwards
b) yell at all your other co-workers to join you in performing "a"
c) Both "a" and "b"
d) put on appropriate gown, gloves, and mask with splatter shield, and apply an emergency tourniquet

In case you were wondering, the correct answer to both scenarios is "d". You always assume the worst, from common sense, and institutional policy, and over-prepare, so you can deal with it easily if it turns out to be less-than. You don't grab your .22 to go take on that African Cape Buffalo, and then find out you needed a bit more to get it done. Unless you're a farking moron. I told you that story so I could tell you this one:

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Some days back, I stated that I didn't think we'd bring Kung Flu patients into the hospital, but instead, triage them in tents outside, then send the ones meeting criteria to some FEMA-set-up Kung Flu Treatment Center, staffed as possible, and serviced by dedicated Hazmat 9-1-1 ambulances, whisking members of the community there as appropriate, in full protective gear, 24/7/365.

Because, as I argued with flawless logic, to do otherwise would be to a) risk our entire healthcare system being overwhelmed and destroyed, a la Italy, and b) make every other medical emergency impossible to deal with, thus doubling casualties from every other treatable and preventable cause of death, from heart attacks and strokes to appendicitis, because the entirety of any and every hospital would be filled with Kung Flu-infected plague petri dishes, in every nook and cranny.

Turns out, TPTB, top to bottom, make the Italians look like Leonardo da Vinci.

1) We're not putting tents up everywhere.
2) We're not segregating people out of the hospital.
3) We'll do a half-assed triage assessment outside the building somewhere (fill in the blank where___________)
4) Using screening criteria overtaken by reality a month ago, because the CDC, no matter how asinine, is always the CDC
4a) to wit, asking about foreign travel, even though homegrown community-acquired cases outstrip foreign travel candidates, and have for two weeks
4b) ask about exposure to known Kung Flu patients, even though the CDC and local public health departments refused to test for Kung Flu until four days ago, in most cases, (due to jackassery, fuckwittery, and a dearth of functional kits for two months) thus insuring via Catch-22, that if you never test for King Flu, nobody anyone was in contact with ever officially has Kung Flu
5) then bring the infected into an appropriate sealed negative airflow room
5a) which cleverly has no patient monitoring equipment
5b) will not allow you to get portable chest x-ray equipment into the room with the patient with respiratory problems (which, cleverly, no one thought about prior to then)
5c) which would contaminate said portable x-ray equipment every time you got it into the quarantine room
5d) which would require an extensive, nigh impossible decontamination of said X-ray equipment for each and every subsequent patient
5e) thus leading to shooting x-rays outside the building, or in other places that probably violate 27 hospital safety policies, local health and safety codes, and probably eleventy Nuclear Regulatory Commission regulations regarding radiological safety of patients, staff, and bystanders, in a slow-rolling Chernobyl sort of way
5f) and taking them to CT scanners which are then contaminated, and failing to do a full terminal clean of said rooms and equipment each and every time, which would take them offline for hours each shift, and necessitate closing the hospital to ambulance traffic, so why bother cleaning?
6)unless you're fresh out of negative airflow rooms, in which case you
7) put them into open rooms with no protection or containment
8) thus insuring that all staff members and other patients are exposed over and over again
9) to cases which will not be tested for Kung Flu unless they're first proven negative for the flu
10) Or not
11) All such "policies" being rather more like the Pirates Code ("just guidelines, really"), purely at the whimsy and caprice of whatever doctor(s), charge nurses, or cranky old bat nurse has phone duty that day at the Public Health office, and their personal and capricious interpretation of the current (of four or five or six, so far) CDC guidelines
12) which apparently are changed every hour, if not more frequently
13) while the managers, and senior management, who should be living in the same shoes and underpants 24/7/365 until they sort this shit out, weekend or no, but whom are instead nowhere to be seen, heard from, or in any wise directly involved, until the total colossal clusterfuck falls over from its own weight seven or eight times over, between Friday afternoon and the middle of the following week.
14) while staff and patients having to deal with the results of people with Acute-on-Chronic Head-Up-The-Ass-Syndrome are repeatedly subjected to potential pandemic exposure, leading to sickness, preventative quarantine, lawsuits, and death
15) as the Low IQ staff members, who still think this is no big deal, continue to half-ass every bit of their response, 24/7/365, because half of them were below the upper/lower cut in their graduating classes as well.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
The CDC (as per usual, going back years decades) has no f**king idea that it doesn't even know what it doesn't even know, including how to find its own ass with both hands, a map, a compass, and a rearview mirror.
ManageManglement has no idea the CDC can't find its own ass either, and is looking for their own as well.
Supervisory staff puts on its Lemming Suicide Squad Crash Helmet and blinders, and announces that the Light Brigade will smartly charge right over the cliff.
Grunt-level staff, doctors, nurses, ancillary members, etc. will continue to work until
a) they can't take the bullshit
b) they get sick
c) they realize their own family's safety trumps a paycheck.

Instead of learning from Italy's mistakes, and trying to save people and the overall healthcare system, we're going to keep on half-assing this until we're in it over our heads, and then drown. Instead of making the hard call early, and working the kinks out now, when it would have been easy, when it's five patients a week, we'll wait until it's 500 patients an hour, and then crash and burn in a glorious orgy of stupidity.

I expect people to hit the wall.
This is all new to everyone.
There hasn't been a pandemic like this in 100 years.
BUT I ALSO EXPECTED THEM NOT TO BE SO GODDAMN STUPID AFTER THEY HIT THE WALL AS TO NOT RUN HEADFIRST INTO IT TEN OR TWENTY MORE TIMES, IN RAPID SUCCESSION, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN.

That last expectation was misguided, being most clearly irrational hubris overcoming a solid and well-founded pessimism about people in general, the universality of the Peter Principle, and the inevitability of people, left to their own devices, shooting themselves in the feet until they run out of feet, or ammunition. And then, reloading.

Take care of yourselves.
Take care of your families.
Take care of your friends.
Take care of Your People.

No one is coming to save you.
Not me.
Not the government.
Not. Any. One.


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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

And yet... Another thread on this site says HCQ and Zinc stop the Coronavirus in its tracks.

Imagine that. Zinc being a thing. Hmmmmmm

Apparently the author of this piece is a terrified little cuckster who wants everyone to be as terrified as he is. I am going to go buy a bunch of sublingual zinc tonight because apparently the stuff works if you don’t have the Coronavirus already and the HCQ seems to also work as a preventative measure. I think so much of this is overblown hype meant to destroy the country because the bolsheviks did not get rid of Trump. I see any and all of these new threats as a result of leftists not getting what they want.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2020-03-17   18:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

On that cheery note, a couple more hints:

Take care of your weapons.

Take care of your ammo.

Save the last round for yourself.

Otherwise, soldier on as usual.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-17   18:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15, 4um (#0)

Take care of yourselves. Take care of your families. Take care of your friends. Take care of Your People.

X, I did the best I could, got no family left (that I can trust. Just an estranged older sister that hates me for doing the right thing). Was taking care of my dying family. That's why I didn't get disability, set the biz aside to do what I had to do.

Don't have anybody I could really call my friend anymore (your card from the accident in 2013 is the first thing you'd see if you come in my den).

Used to have crews. They melted away after I got dusted off in 2013, but they all were Uhmerrikins and spoke English.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-03-17   19:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0)

Pretty logical.

Where I am, things are in serious lockdown. Can't drive the car 4 days out of the week, curfew from 9 PM to 6 AM, and can only go out to either work, buy food or medicine, or something of that nature, unless one could get away with a stop somewhere in between for other things. Borders and airports are closed down to international travel. Just over 100 cases so far in the country.

I was pretty resigned to the fact that this virus would sweep the country, but with these steps, maybe it will actually work. For now. Until borders are reopened a bit prematurely or some drug runner brings it in from one of the neighboring countries and some latent permanent carrier of the virus sets it loose again.

But in the USA, forget it. This kind of lockdown is unconstitutional and we Americans have been brought up with a pretty strong me-first philosophy. On top of that, there is a fair sized segment of society that still considers corona to be no worse than the ordinary flu, something I don't see sufficient evidence of.

History in the making, I think. And the carnage generated from the market mayhem may exceed that of the virus directly. All the tricks and cooked book activities of the financial elite over all these years converting the US economy into a very fragile house of cards just needs a catalyst to bring it crashing down, and this may be it. Easily.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-17   20:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

How are you liking that country? How long have you been there now?

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-17   22:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

About 14 years now. I do miss being able to socially interact with anyone. Languages are my weak point. Food is better. Fresh produce year round. Weather is great. Scenery is great. Cheap cost of living. You do have to put up with socialist tendencies, and the influx of Venezuelans has increased not just crime but violent crime as before that, criminals were at least generally non-violent. Cooperative victims generally didn't get hurt at all.

In many ways there's more freedom. In some ways, there's less, notably with gun ownership. They can be had but are expensive with a massive 3 digit tax rate.

Overall, I think it's a better place to live than the USA.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-17   22:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#6)

Where did you live here?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-17   22:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#7)

Ecuador.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-17   23:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)

I meant to ask where in the USA, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-17   23:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

Maryland was the last place in the US where I bedded down for a night.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-17   23:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#10)

That's sad.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-17   23:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#6)

I have been thinking about making the move. Are you able to make money there?


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-03-17   23:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Anthem (#12)

I have been thinking about making the move. Are you able to make money there?

Only via online, as I'm basically unemployable due to the language barrier. But anyone who can make money from afar would do quite well here. I.e. if you can bring in $2000/month, you are well into middle class living.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   0:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#3) (Edited)

Thanks and glad to see you're still above the grass :)

Those of us who practice a little common sense have a fighting chance.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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X-15  posted on  2020-03-18   0:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

Apparently the author of this piece is a terrified little cuckster who wants everyone to be as terrified as he is.

He's noted in other columns that most ICU's, nationwide, are 75% - 85% capacity ordinarily. This virus will push that to 100% real quick.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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X-15  posted on  2020-03-18   0:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#13)

Taxes an issue, income or (minor) wealth?


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-03-18   0:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Anthem (#16)

There's a 12% national sales tax on most things. Income from abroad is not taxed. There's a car tax, but gas is subsidized (negative tax?) That might not last too much longer though but it's still cheaper than in the US. Or was until last week.

Property taxes are generally very light compared to the US.

Overall, the tax burden is light. The 12% sales tax is the bulk of what's paid. If a super wealthy people come in to the country they may be taxed additionally, but doubtless still less than the US rates.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   1:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pinguinite (#8)

Ecuador.

I didn't know you were an ex-pat, Neil. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   4:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite (#17)

Thank you!


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-03-18   7:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Anthem, Lod (#19)

BTW, an alternative place for Americans to emigrate to is Belize. Reasons: It's very easy and cheap to do right now, as you can literally just take a vacation there and never leave, opting to extend your stay with a $25 monthly fee, and after one year of that, you apply for perm residency. And a year or 2 after that, apply for citizenship. Also, it's an officially English speaking country. It's a poorer place overall, which is a disadvantage, and being coastal at that latitude, it is warmer and more humid -- Ecuador mountain living is a lot like Maryland in the spring the whole year. A lot of people's cars are actually golf carts -- good enough to get to the grocery & hardware stores 2-3 miles down the road. Corruption is something to adjust to as well, but it's something to which you do adapt your way of life and not a deal killer.

For anyone in the US looking to leave, Belize has some good advantages. Cheap, easy to get in, and English speaking.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   14:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite (#20)

My friends and I studied Belize -- some visited it and were initially enthused. They all ended up in (Boquete, Panama) or Chile. Belize is a negro country with lots of bugs to deal with, but the natives are a totally different story than blax in white countries - - mild and benign, never been radicalized. (Yet.)

Belize cities are mostly slum, correct? Still lots of people like Belize, especially if they've got a little money. I'd love to leave the US but it's far from simple. The USG has destroyed offshore financial privacy and now double-taxes expats -- does everything it can to stop Americans from leaving. My Panama friends still come back to SC for dental appts ;)

You Neil are the only American I've ever personally known or been aware of that's glad he chose Ecuador. If you really are, I'm very happy for you. Do you have friends there -- anybody to advise you on how to get things done, etc.?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-18   15:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#20)

Expatriating is generally for young, single people and I am neither. But thanks for keeping us updated on your life in the Republic of the Equator.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-18   17:42:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pinguinite (#4) (Edited)

History in the making, I think. And the carnage generated from the market mayhem may exceed that of the virus directly.

All the tricks and cooked book activities of the financial elite over all these years converting the US economy into a very fragile house of cards just needs a catalyst to bring it crashing down, and this may be it. Easily.

I agree on the above.

This current process and compliance has been like taking candy from a baby.

Despite the overwhelming, easily obtainable documentation that this CV pandemonium has been the result of pre-planned, rehearsed scenario-simulations and meetings (See 'Event 201' and 'ID2020').

The MSM has been tasked with ONE major job since 2015: Creating Hate-Porn, Fear-Porn, and Guilt-Porn. Now it's 24/7 Terror-Porn. Technically, MSM = "Terrorists" (as are many politicians).

History IS in the making. No matter what, we're not in Kansas anymore; Or Ecuador. Or NJ. (Been the case since 911.)

The "Virus" has been a pretext to shut down our current system and transition our entire financial system (including science and sovereignty issues) in the next phase. Some believe this to be the coming One-World "Beast System" phase.

As you note, the obvious fragility of the entire world economy and the mirage of the "robust" stock market may be fatally weakened, NOT by the "Virus" damage, but by the supposed prophylactic measures. The public senses and knows a hoax when they see it; They are just hoping against hope that the "White Hats" control the demolition and rebuilding on the other side.

Many believe we are at the cusp of a new world system reset. It is said to involve two separate "PTB" factions: Let's call them the White Hats vs. Black Hats. If you recall the upset reactions at Poppy's funeral, some says it was the moment certain Black Hats found out their time had run out -- and with it, their seemingly endless, unpunished "tricks and cooked books".

Make what you will of the following explanation and expectation of the future, for better or worse.

This essay was written a few years ago but the explanation and information is nearly identical to many other other sources. This is a partial excerpt:

http://www.wethepeople1787.com/nesara---gesara-law.html

NESARA

NESARA is the covert National Economic Security and Reformation Act (March/October 2000). Notice that the S stands for Security; not for Stability. (S for Stability is a Bait-and-Switch mirror fraud; NESARA is an American legal initiative with radical and benevolent global consequences.

On a Global level this is known to approximately 209 countries, governments as GESARA. The G is for Global. There will be a return to the gold standard and asset backed currency, digital and paper world wide. Fiat money has not worked and the financial system has been in a state of controlled collapse for a few years.

The NESARA global prosperity programs are on the cusp of being announced and activated. One of the protected funds said to be involved is called The Saint Germain World Trust. This fund contains deliverable precious metals and currencies worth upwards of one quattuordecillion US dollars. The word quattuordecillion is sometimes spelled quatrodecillion. It means ten thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, million dollars. Or $1 with forty zero's after it.

$10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.Among other projects, this money will be used to buy out all oil corporations, banks and pharmaceutical cartels. And it will zero out (permanently cancel) all personal, corporate and national debts worldwide. More about universal debt forgiveness and the imminent global debt jubilee can be found here. The Saint Germain World Trust resources are additional to, and separate from, The World Global Settlement Funds and the Global Collateral Accounts worth approximately 800 Trillion $$ Dollars.

The NESARA money was originally scheduled to be released in the year 2000, but the Bush White House and its banking and legal conspirators worldwide prevented the disbursement. And through corporate pan-global control of mainstream media outlets, nearly all knowledge of NESARA's existence was suppressed. This is now changing.

When the NESARA global prosperity programs are openly and publicly announced, perhaps during March or April 2017, this will permanently change human civilisation in every money-related way. Yes delays have occurred since March and April have come and gone. However, much is being accomplished behind the scenes that can not yet be exposed openly. Please read on...

( ► Note to readers: Future history is developing fast, now. Most of this development is not being explicitly reported with appropriate emphasis in the Western mainstream media. We are maintaining a dated compilation of links to geopolitically significant commentary at the foot of our Future Historians'

The whole human population will benefit from NESARA.

Earth is a most abundant planet. There is more than enough gold-backed human money currently in existence on Earth for each and every human being to be a GBP millionaire without debts of any kind. GBP = Great Britain Pound. NESARA is about sharing the resources of the planet around fairly. And NESARA is about putting benevolent banking systems in place worldwide to deliver this monetary fairness. No individual anywhere on Earth will be beyond the reach of the NESARA wealth redistribution programs. And no individual or organisation anywhere on Earth will be able to stop it.

NESARA will cancel all credit card, mortgage and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government corruption worldwide. Income tax will be abolished. A new 14% to perhaps 18% flat rate tax on non-essential new items will provide the revenue stream for national governments. There will be increased benefits for senior citizens. In the USA, there will be a return to Constitutional Law at every level of the legal system....

Liberator  posted on  2020-03-18   18:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#23)

Who can forget the hoopla that NESARA NOW! created on FR back in 2000?

Two decades have blown by in the twinkling of an eye...cheers.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-18   18:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#23)

In the USA, there will be a return to Constitutional Law at every level of the legal system.

If this means those administrative law courts that adjudicate things like parking tickets will be abolished I am all for it. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   18:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#24)

Who can forget the hoopla that NESARA NOW! created on FR back in 2000?

Two decades have blown by in the twinkling of an eye...cheers.

You have been in the mix a very long time online. Back in Y2K I was busy driving trucks as I have done for so many years. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   19:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: X-15 (#0)

We're not putting tents up everywhere.

When three bus loads of us went to Woodstock 94 to work Security, we slept in big circus tents. They put up a divider in them with men on one side and women on the other.

One company came from Atlanta. They did not like the accommodations so they left after the first night.

What a bunch of woosies. We were lean and mean after we got out of there.

I saw a guy at local Wal Mart wearing a Poison T-shirt. It turned out his brother worked for Upstaging. They are the people that ship stages around the country.

When we worked Pearl Jam in Soldier Field in Chicago in 1996, it was the same stage as the main stage at Woodstock 94. I could tell by the hardware we had been walking over for three days straight. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   19:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BTP Holdings (#18)

Ecuador

In case you didn't know, B -- Ecuador means equator in Mexican.

That reminds me of when Jim Stafford used to say "Now, 'guitar' means 'guitar' in Spanish."

And he could sure play one.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-03-18   20:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: StraitGate (#28)

In case you didn't know, B -- Ecuador means equator in MexicanSpanish.

Yes I am well aware of that. I did not know that Neil was an ex-pat. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   20:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod (#2)

I asked my twin sister if she wanted to buy a rifle. So I grabbed a box from storage locker.

When I got to the bar she worked in, she came out to look at it. It was the stainless Ruger 10-22. When she saw what it was she ran back in the bar and locked me out. What in hell did she think I was going to sell her, the .308 battle rifle? :-/

When I lived in her attic flat, I went downstairs to visit. I asked to see the pistol she carried at work. It was a .38 snub nose.

I tired to cock it and it was rusted. So I asked her, "When is the last time you cleaned this?" She said, "About a month ago."

I told her, "If you are going to carry this, you need to clean it once or twice a week or THIS is what happens to it." :-/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-03-18   21:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BTP Holdings (#30)

I tired to cock it and it was rusted. So I asked her, "When is the last time you cleaned this?" She said, "About a month ago."

Did you ask her HOW she cleaned it? Maybe her idea of cleaning a gun is to soak it in hot soapy water in the sink?

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   22:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: BTP Holdings, Pinguinite (#30)

So rusty it wouldn't cock -- sounds extreme for just a month later?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-18   22:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

My friends and I studied Belize -- some visited it and were initially enthused. They all ended up in (Boquete, Panama) or Chile. Belize is a negro country with lots of bugs to deal with, but the natives are a totally different story than blax in white countries - - mild and benign, never been radicalized. (Yet.)

Where I am, the biggest racial difference is between the indigenous and European descent. Very different cultures and the 2 groups don't really mix socially. There's no animosity at all, but just no social mixing to any real extent. Indigenous villages often carry out their own form of criminal punishment without sanction from the formal gov.

Belize cities are mostly slum, correct? Still lots of people like Belize, especially if they've got a little money. I'd love to leave the US but it's far from simple. The USG has destroyed offshore financial privacy and now double-taxes expats -- does everything it can to stop Americans from leaving. My Panama friends still come back to SC for dental appts ;)

I've never been to Belize but would like to go sometime. So I can't speak for it. One person who had a bad experience was John McCafee. It didn't end well as he refused to be extorted for normal protection by the local police. His dog was killed and then his neighbor was murdered. John was a suspect and fled the country as he refused to submit to what he claimed was complete corruption. So Belize is not for celebrities. Only works for people who are not known to be millionaires.

But yes, it's low altitude tropics so lots of bugs are to be expected. At least on the coast. Big bugs too, like roaches almost 2 inches in length and 3/4s of an inch wide. Those are here too but only at lower altitudes. There are some higher altitude areas in the south of Belize that would probably take the edge off the heat that might be tolerable. But either there or right on the coast is best as the ocean effect should keep things cooler.

You Neil are the only American I've ever personally known or been aware of that's glad he chose Ecuador. If you really are, I'm very happy for you. Do you have friends there -- anybody to advise you on how to get things done, etc.?

I know a bunch of gringos here. But apart from them, I have few friends, and all I do speak English. Because of the language barrier, socializing is a challenge. That's why I've eyed Belize as it's officially English country. The language barrier is a negative for me here. But as I'm kind of introverted, that's not so bad. But I've been here long enough to get done what I need with day to day things, and I got my 3 small dogs to keep me company.

But the USA has about nothing to attract me. Expensive, lots of bureaucracy and taxes, GMO foods run amuck, police that might shoot you and funding of the war machine. I've even thought about renouncing as it's one way to remove big brother concerns, but the current price tag on that is about $4000. A financial version of former East Germany's barbed wire fences and minefields.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   22:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#22)

Expatriating is generally for young, single people and I am neither. But thanks for keeping us updated on your life in the Republic of the Equator.

Retirees also. Once they get a pension coming it, if it's a weak amount to live on in the states, expating to a Latin country where money goes 3x further makes a lot of financial sense.

For younger people, expatting to places like Australia & New Zealand makes more sense as they can work there. A college grad wouldn't do well here, especially if he comes with a big college loan debt as he'd never make enough to pay that down. While cost of living is quite low, salaries here match it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-03-18   22:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pinguinite (#33)

A financial version of former East Germany's barbed wire fences and minefields.

Poignant.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-03-18   22:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Pinguinite (#34) (Edited)

You need a hot senorita to teach you her native tongue, you'll prolly catch right on...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-03-18   23:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod, Pinguinite (#34)

New Zealand turns out to be a terrible destination and losing lots of young people to other countries. Housing costs are beyond shocking, even in my pipe dream area -- Waipu

https://www.realestate.co.nz/residential/sale? by=featured&lct=s2171&ql=20

Houses are cheaply built, poorly insulated and lacking central heat half the time. There's no really good climate unless you want to live in the isolated extreme north, hours from miserable Auckland.

Form your own opinions, but request my NEW ZEALAND TOTAL FAILURE and FORGET AUSTRALIA batches of notes ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-18   23:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pinguinite (#33)

So you're not all that happy with Ecuador and that's only natural. Please consider Boquete, Panama -- you can pick your climate (e.g. perpetual springtime) by your altitude up the slope from David (the nearest city in the flatlands). There's a thriving expat community there and friends of mine to welcome you, possibly to offer you rental space while you're getting your feet on the ground. The town's getting all the amenities like big American-style grocery stores.

A couple we know in Chile (he's from here in SC) is considering escaping the mess there for "BQ".

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-18   23:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pinguinite (#33)

I got my 3 small dogs to keep me company.

I have assumed that pets would be impossible to relocate. I have two dogs that I would hate to part with.

Belize is a no-go for me. I know people who have been there, and others in Honduras, and the are both too Caribbean and too socialista for my taste. Equador or Chile.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-03-18   23:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pinguinite (#38)

PS Renunciation looks easy and cheap here

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal- considerations/us-citizenship/Renunciation-US-Nationality-Abroad.html

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-03-18   23:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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