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Title: God and the Coronavirus
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URL Source: https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/god-and-the-coronavirus/
Published: Apr 3, 2020
Author: Gilad Atzmon
Post Date: 2020-04-03 08:11:41 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 3583
Comments: 18

Disclaimer: due to the highly sensitive nature of the topic, all my sources and references to orthodox Jewish communities and the Corona virus are mainstream Jewish and Israeli news outlets.

The Israeli press has reported extensively for the last two days that within the Jewish ultra-Orthodox communities in Israel, the Corona virus has spread like wildfire.

“Israel’s ultra-Orthodox endanger the public” was the headline of yesterday’s Jerusalem Post opinion piece. The article points to the ultra orthodox community as a menace both to the general society and itself. “Some of Israel’s most religious communities, religious leaders, and even the health minister himself r efuse to take the threat of coronavirus seriously enough in their own observant communities. The ultra-Orthodox disdain for secular society in the time of the COVID-19 pandemic endangers both their own communities and the general public.”

The Jerusalem Post reports that “Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, the leader of the Lithuanian ultra-Orthodox community, actively called for yeshivot to stay open, in direct opposition to the Health Ministry’s directives. One of the members of Kanievsky’s inner circle told the press that ‘Rabbi Kanievsky says canceling Torah study is more dangerous than corona.’”

Times of Israel reported on a “marked jump in new coronavirus cases Wednesday in Israeli cities with large ultra-Orthodox populations, amid growing concerns over a major outbreak of COVID-19 in the community.”

Bnei Brak, a Tel Aviv suburb with fewer than 200,000 residents, most of them orthodox, has the second most confirmed cases of any Israeli city, though it is the ninth largest in the country by population.

The authorities now accept that it is the orthodox community that spreads the virus in the Jewish State. “Among the other cities in Israel to record a large increase of new coronavirus cases were Modiin Illit, Beit Shemesh, Elad and Beitar Illit, all of which are majority ultra-Orthodox or have sizable Haredi populations.”

Officials are looking at ways to reduce the outbreak in Bnei Brak, where “one in three residents tested for the coronavirus have been found to carry it (33%). The high percentage of positive tests reported Tuesday by the Health Ministry compares to 6% in Tel Aviv and 10% in Jerusalem.”

“Police on Tuesday set up checkpoints around Bnei Brak and were checking IDs of anyone trying to enter, as the government moved toward placing a cordon around the city.”

Bnei Brak’s mayor warned Tuesday evening against making his city into “a ghetto.” Here one may notice that it isn’t the so-called Goyim who ‘push the Jews into the ghetto.’ Instead it is the Israeli government that imposes the on the orthodox community in its attempt to protect the rest of society.

It is clear that in the Jewish State, neither the government nor the media shy away from this problematic topic, and there is good reason to believe that the attitude of the orthodox toward public health is not confined to Israel. A few days ago we learned from Haaretz that more than half of the members of a group of 114 Chabad followers tested positive for the coronavirus and were placed in quarantine after returning from the United States last week. The Israeli paper reports that “The Hasidim, all Israeli citizens, had been studying at a yeshiva in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood, which the American authorities fear has been the site of a major outbreak of the virus. Immediately after they landed in Israel, they were separated from other passengers, their passports were confiscated and they were placed on buses that took them to Jerusalem.”

If 50% of the students who returned from the Brooklyn Chabad centre were infected with Corona, there is good reason to assume that the Corona virus is at least as common in the Brooklyn orthodox community as it is in Israeli orthodox enclaves.

The Israeli settler news outlet, Arutz 7, reported yesterday that the situation in the Jewish area, Crown Heights, is indeed grave. “There are no words to describe the feeling of the community; it’s devastating, it’s depressing, and we pray every day that it’s going to be over… In almost every house I’ve spoken to, there’s at least one person who tested positive for coronavirus. We know we were one of the first communities to be hit, so we hope to be the first ones to get over it.”

Kiryas Joel, an orthodox town outside of New York City, is suffocated with Corona cases. Its leaders urge Dr. Vladimir Zelenko (who has since become a household name in America for his allegedly successful treatment of the Corona virus) to stop posting videos online about the outbreak or else leave Kiryas Joel and the Hasidic community out of them. Dr Zelenko estimated that 90% of Kiryas Joel habitants had COVID-19 after 9 of his first 14 tests came back positive.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

These guys are like the Christian Scientists on a hot burner.

The ultra-Orthodox are as bad as the hyper-Shia who lick the relics in their mosques and whose Imams recommend schmearing oil where the sun don't shine & reading special verses from the Koran as cure alls for the Corona virus.

I swear the gene pool seems to be pretty well self editing these days.

randge  posted on  2020-04-03   10:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: randge (#1)

The ultraorthordox are ultrasocial and don't pay attention to what the seculars say.

Ada  posted on  2020-04-03   11:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

Wake the frell up sheeple, there is no such thing as a god, yes a Creator but no god. If there was a loving, caring, kind god this would not have happened, along with war, starvation, murders.

Darkwing  posted on  2020-04-03   14:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Darkwing (#3)

a loving, caring, kind god

Might be wishful thinking

And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.. Psalm 111:10

Ada  posted on  2020-04-03   15:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#4)

a loving, caring, kind god

Has been kinda scarce around the neighborhood these days. ;-]

randge  posted on  2020-04-03   16:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#5)

Perhaps He is there but not performing as you would like.

Ada  posted on  2020-04-03   19:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#5)

Has been kinda scarce around the neighborhood these days. ;-]

Now that is WELL put. Everything is going straight to hell. If He* loves and cares so all-fired much, where the devil is He? I guess the 3rd temple has to be built first, fundies have to bring about Armageddon and the white race has to be destroyed :-s

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*good ol' Capital H ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-04-03   19:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)

Could it be we are seeing God's justice for our many abomination like, say, destroying the water purification plants in Iraq? Or targetted assassinations?

Ada  posted on  2020-04-03   19:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada, NeoconsNailed (#8)

for our many abomination

The just suffer with the guilty.

Ever hath it been so.

randge  posted on  2020-04-03   21:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#8)

Could it be we are seeing God's justice for our many abomination like, say, destroying the water purification plants in Iraq? Or targeted assassinations?

It's possible. What's impossible is the idea that a loving god would ever have created a world so full of chaos and suffering, or put humanity in a perfect one to mess it all up.

Such a god would have to be very wicked herself.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-04-04   0:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

Then your conclusion is that He is not a loving god. Stick with it.

Ada  posted on  2020-04-04   9:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#9)

God's rain falls on a just and unjust alike.

But we are blind and follow Caesar who takes away the probably cure for Covid 19 instead of insisting it be distributed.

Ada  posted on  2020-04-04   9:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Darkwing (#3)

Wake the frell up sheeple, there is no such thing as a god, yes a Creator but no god. If there was a loving, caring, kind god this would not have happened, along with war, starvation, murders.

God is truth. The truth can be mysterious and unpleasant. It is certainly harsh for those who ignore it or deny it. The randomness of the physical world can seem like malevolence until you understand it.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-04-04   9:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ada (#12)

She's laffing at us stumbling into every pitfall She graciously sets up.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-04-04   9:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ada (#12)

Ironically though, Ada, it is "Caesar" who is the one promoting the one widely accepted cure for the virus employed by practitioners on the ground. : )

randge  posted on  2020-04-04   10:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#15) (Edited)

Haven't noticed them making it available to anyone except the guinea pigs. Those who have been using it for the on label treatments have suddenly been denied access.

All these drawn out tests do is drag feet until a new and very expensive drugs can be foisted on the public.

Ada  posted on  2020-04-04   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

What's impossible is the idea that a loving god would ever have created a world so full of chaos and suffering,

HE didn't:

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-31.htm

Behold, it was very good — It had been said of each day’s work, except the second, that it was good, but now, of every thing, that it was very good. For man, the master-piece of God’s works, and his visible image and deputy here on earth, was now formed and constituted the head and governor of the whole.

Genesis 1:31 Commentaries: God saw all that He had made ...

biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/1-31.htm

But mankind did not have FAITH in God, then or now, it seems.

The Devil by his cunning and deceit brought a world full of chaos and suffering, but God, who is Holy and Righteous, and would not give His glory to another [ https://biblehub.com/isaiah/42-8.htm ] promised to redeem those who had faith:

Genesis 3:13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Punishment of Mankind

16To the woman He said: “I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth; in pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” 17And to Adam He said: “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat, cursed is the ground because of you; through toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.…

https://www.biblehub.com/genesis/3-16.htm / https://www.biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/3.htm

[When people don't want to believe God, sometimes He just steps back and lets them learn their lessons the hard way: https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/32-20.htm ]

"Her seed" is Jesus Christ, of course, who was "bruised" for OUR transgressions: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/53-5.htm . Through Christ, "her seed" also extends to His followers. [ https://biblehub.com/romans/16-20.htm ]

https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-16.htm / https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm

http://whoisisrael.org/seed-vs-descendants/

Of course, most Christians have been waylaid by Cyrus Scofield "churches" so they are too busy worshipping Jews and Israhell, and waiting on a rapture hoax to be of any use in the battle. Keep hoping they will wake up any day now.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-04-04   13:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

HE didn't

Yes, She did -- and She is entirely responsible for what goes on in it right down to the second you're reading this word. Quoting Her book about Herself is, IMHO, no match for taking a good look at how She really operates.

PUT ME TO THE TEST, she says, and frames a great deal of the book in legal terms and figures. A testament is a covenant ad inf. But Her words and deeds simply don't stand up in court.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-04-05   2:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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