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Title: Even Right Abandoning Accused Minneapolis Cop—But They Shouldn't
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URL Source: https://vdare.com/posts/even-right- ... eapolis-cop-but-they-shouldn-t
Published: May 30, 2020
Author: Federale
Post Date: 2020-05-30 19:47:18 by Ada
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Views: 3229
Comments: 50

So, there we have it, Con, Inc., AltRight, Civic Nationalists, and the NRA spokesmouth Dana Loesch are attacking hero white cop Derek Chauvin, he who bravely found, fought with, and successfully arrested violent Black career criminal George Floyd. Whether it is one of the most censored men on the internet, Jared Taylor, who called Chauvin a psychopath on his latest podcast, to Rush Limbaugh calling Chauvin a killer, to normally levelheaded vlogger Donut Operator, a former cop who usually defends cops based on evidence, but who blasted Chauvin and blamed him for the rioting based on nothing more than panic, to Mike Penovich of The Daily Shoah who called Chauvin a killer, the right has lost its collective mind.

Heroic Victim Of Anti-White Hysteria Derek Chauvin

So let this be a full throated defense of Derek Chauvin, who is as innocent as George Zimmerman, Darren Wilson, and Daniel Pantaleo.

First, and foremost in this, like Eric Garner, pictured right, George Floyd was a large and fundamentally unhealthy black man with a penchant for crime and violence. George was a career criminal who was riding for a bad end, and he got it. George ignored the 70s cop show, Baretta, theme song’s advice, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time; he died because of his bad decision making, just as Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and Michael Brown did. He rolled the dice and it came up snake eyes.

And as the Eric Garner case, there is no basis for any criminal charge. The autopsy says no crime was committed, because Floyd did not die of anything wrong with his neck—Chauvin was charged just because he was white.

Meantime, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner announced it has made “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.” The preliminary results of the May 26 autopsy were included in the statement of probable cause for charges against Chauvin. The medical examiner suggested underlying health conditions contributed to Floyd’s death. Floyd’s family said it will seek an independent autopsy.

[Derek Chauvin Charged With Third-Degree Murder And Manslaughter In Death Of George Floyd, by Marisa Iati, Kim Bellware, Mark Berman, Lateshia Beachum and John Wagner, WaPo, May 29, 2020]

Floyd was fundamentally unhealthy and had illegal drugs in his system. Not a good idea to then go commit a crime, get arrested, and fight the police, both before and after being handcuffed. There is also a rumor that he was conscious in the ambulance and slipped his handcuffs in an escape attempt.

Now, the Lugenpresse is making much of the fact that Chauvin had his knee on George’s neck for a whole 7 minutes or so, as if that is something bad or unusual.

Derek Chauvin kept his knee pinned down on George Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, according to a criminal complaint filed Friday.

Chauvin did not remove his knee after Floyd said “I can’t breathe” or after he shouted “Mama” and uttered “please,” the charging statement from the Hennepin County Attorney’s office says. He allegedly did not move his knee until nearly three minutes after another officer was unable to find Floyd’s pulse.

I tell you kneeling on the head or neck is quite common and useful physical control technique. It is also used daily in hundreds of arrests. The technique is quite common when making arrests and the criminals, especially black criminals, often fight back even after being handcuffed. And this is what happened. Police officers do this for two main reasons, first, as in this case, Floyd resumed fighting after being handcuffed and had to be subdued again. The knee on the neck was a precautionary measure meant to keep him down so he did not attack again. One can see examples of this if you watch Cops or Live PD. Criminals even try and run away while handcuffed. They also slip the handcuffs and escape.

Secondly, Chauvin and his fellow officers were surrounded by a hostile mob of blacks who by their proximity and common black behavior, were likely to attack the officers and help Floyd escape. Chauvin had to keep his knee on Floyd, so he could maintain situational awareness of the growing, hostile, and potentially violent crowd. Crowds commonly attack police and interfere with arrests. Maintaining control over the suspect is very important in these situations.

Thirdly, criminals often feign injury, especially now claiming they can’t breathe in part to help set up the loosening or removal of handcuffs so they can escape.

Even the criminal complaint, note this is not a Grand Jury indictment, which tells us much, the Hennepin County Attoreny’s Office was afraid to take it to a Grand Jury, which is required by the Constitution, admits that Floyd was violently resisting before and after handcuffing.

The complaint says Floyd initially resisted being handcuffed when officers sought to arrest him on suspicion of trying to pay for a purchase with a counterfeit $20 bill, but he then became compliant. He sat on the ground at officer Thomas Lane’s direction while Lane asked him questions.

When Lane and officer J. Alexander Kueng tried to walk Floyd to a squad car, however, the complaint says that “Mr. Floyd stiffened up, fell to the ground, and told the officers he was claustrophobic.” Floyd allegedly continued to intentionally fall down and refuse to stand still to avoid entering the car, but the officers eventually got him into a passenger seat of the vehicle.

At 8:19 p.m., Chauvin pulled Floyd out of the car and brought him to the ground, facedown and handcuffed, the complaint says. Kueng allegedly held Floyd’s back, Lane held his legs and Chauvin put his left knee near Floyd’s head and neck.

The officers remained in position while Floyd said he could not breathe, according to the complaint.

“You are talking fine,” they allegedly told him as he moved back and forth.

This is quite similar to the Garner case, he complained he could not breathe, which is not factual—if you can talk, you can breathe. You might be having trouble breathing, but you’re still breathing. Garner was claiming he couldn’t breathe, but also was physically and verbally resisting arrest. This is mostly a tactic used by criminals to resist initial handcuffing and detention, then play to the crowd in an attempt to intimidate the police with the subsequent threat of attack by the crowd, and it is usually black criminals who do this, and black crowds who attack the police.

Derek Chauvin is a political prisoner, He has been denied his right to a Grand Jury indictment for this crime. He was arrested based on a Criminal Complaint, which is generally only used when the suspect is agreeing to plead guilty. The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution guarantees the right to a Grand Jury indictment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger;

[Fifth Amendment, by James Madison, Legal Information Institute]

As mentioned before, it is clear that the Hennepin County Attorney wanted to bypass the Constitution, as is usually for politicians in the Democrat Party. He was afraid that he would get a no-bill from the generally white jury pool, as few blacks ever show up for jury duty, especially for Grand Jury.

This is part of the war on whites being waged by most of the American government, at all levels, State, local, and Federal. The Deep State is real and just as President Trump has been a victim, as George Zimmerman was a victim, so is the latest white victim, Derek Chauvin.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

The action of the cop (and his buddies) was reprehensible from day 1, who the hell is this f**k speaking for me?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2020-05-30   20:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

the right has lost its collective mind.

If belonging to the right means having to worship and adore homicidal psychopathic pigs, then I'm happy to say I'm not part of that collective.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-05-30   20:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

Hearing both sides of a case is always good to do.

Garner was claiming he couldn’t breathe, but also was physically and verbally resisting arrest.

I can confidently say that anyone who is unable to breathe sufficiently due to being restrained will physically resist that restraint. Every. Single. Time.

One major issue is if a trial were to find this cops actions did not contribute to Floyd's death -- a prospect I find dubious, but if -- there will be a lot more rioting.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-05-31   0:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

While someone unable to breathe will physically resist, he will not be able to speak. And supposedly the medical examiner reported the cause of death was not asphyxiation or crushed trachea but heart attack.

Ada  posted on  2020-05-31   7:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar, straitgate (#1)

who you gonna believe: the medical examiner or your own lying eyes?

Ada  posted on  2020-05-31   9:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: StraitGate (#2)

If belonging to the right means having to worship and adore homicidal psychopathic pigs,

Logic and adulthood should make it a simple matter of observing the event and knowing that no human being lying face down on the ground and handcuffed is a threat to the police and should be placed in the cop car and taken to be booked for the charge alleged.

These cops were out of line and whether you're liberal or a conservative doesn't impact the video evidence nor should it impact your opinion of that evidence. This wasn't a political event it was criminal/murder.

I'm conservative in my views.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-05-31   9:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#5)

who you gonna believe: the medical examiner or your own lying eyes?

Yikes, we agree !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-05-31   9:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#6) (Edited)

Logic and adulthood should make it a simple matter of observing the event and knowing that no human being lying face down on the ground and handcuffed is a threat to the police and should be placed in the cop car and taken to be booked for the charge alleged.

These cops were out of line and whether you're liberal or a conservative doesn't impact the video evidence nor should it impact your opinion of that evidence. This wasn't a political event it was criminal/murder.

I'm conservative in my views.

I was watching some modern bounty hunter films. They we wearing padded vests and carried tasers and other things like flash bangs and those extendable rods.

They went after one guy that failed to appear. He was martial artist and put up a real fight, but he was subdued and hog tied with cuffs.

I did some bounty hunting and we just relied on trickery and brute force to get the skip under control.

One guy we tracked to a high rise in Kansas City. We knew he was up there on 6th floor. We were talking with the doorman. He must have called up there and told him, "Those bounty hunters are down here looking for you." He beat us back to where he was supposed to be and turned himself in. No pay for us but at least we scared him enough he raced back to the county and turned himself in. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-05-31   10:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada (#0)

BullPuckey!

Screen Name  posted on  2020-05-31   11:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Screen Name (#9)

If the medical examiner is not lying, then the cop was not applying pressure to George's neck. Can't tell for sure from the picture.

Ada  posted on  2020-05-31   12:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ada (#4)

While someone unable to breathe will physically resist, he will not be able to speak.

It's not like there's no middle ground between being able to breathe and unable to breathe. Someone may be unable to adequately breathe, in which case they may be able to get some words out, while in a state where unconsciousness may not be far off. And it could also be that they are able to breathe somewhat due to restraint while conscious, but upon losing consciousness, restraints such as what this cop did might close off the breathing passages altogether.

And supposedly the medical examiner reported the cause of death was not asphyxiation or crushed trachea but heart attack.

It is noteworthy, and highly significant that the autopsy did not conclude he died from affixiation or a lack of blood flow to the brain, though the report I saw on it was curiously non-conclusive as to the cause of death. It was sort of obtuse saying some kind of chemicals in the system, heart condition and restraint were all factors. That's good news for the cop, of course, as it opens the door for acquittal, but also bad news socially for the country as if this guy is acquitted, it will set off a whole new and probably more severe round of rioting and renewed calls of racism.

Obviously though, that doesn't make a false conviction moral.

Still, the family has hired its own hand to do an independent autopsy, so we'll see what that says.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-05-31   12:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#11)

That's good news for the cop, of course, as it opens the door for acquittal, but also bad news socially for the country as if this guy is acquitted, it will set off a whole new and probably more severe round of rioting and renewed calls of racism.

Being a realist, I suspect if the colors were reversed, we would be not having this discussion.

There would be no looting, burning nor "protests".

White America needs to wake to what is going on.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   13:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

White America needs to wake to what is going on.

I'm half white, Grandma. I can see what is going on.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-05-31   13:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

Being a realist, I suspect if the colors were reversed, we would be not having this discussion.

Colors were reversed a few years ago in Minneapolis when a trigger happy Somali new hire cop shot and killed a white woman who had called in a complaint.

Ada  posted on  2020-05-31   13:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite (#11) (Edited)

If he hadn't been restrained, he might be alive today but that doesn't make the cop responsible.

The family has hired Baden, who is a bit questionable, but should be able to tell if he were asphyxiated or not.

Ada  posted on  2020-05-31   14:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#15)

Antifa declared Domestic Terrorists. That list will expand.

Drones flying 20,000 feet running surveilance over most cities.

Welcome to Amerika 2020 and the New Talmud-Karbalic Century.

Screen Name  posted on  2020-05-31   14:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ada (#14)

Once in the car, why didn't the cops take GF directly to jail for attempted destruction of the world economic order?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   14:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

I'm half white, Grandma. I can see what is going on.

I am part Jew with glasses that is aware of what is going on.

Am white American first, foremost, willing to live and let live but am not willing to submit to anyones yoke.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   16:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom, all (#12)

I suspect if the colors were reversed, we would be not having this discussion.

Don't suspect, remember, when the muzzie/black cop murdered the Aussie lady in her own driveway! for the crime of calling 911 to report suspected domestic violence in the middle of the night.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   17:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#19)

Phone call from Le Mesa Ca.

Family there in motor home headed to rural Oregon. Said looters destroyed business section. cops did nothing. Looters had 8 lanes of traffic blocked.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   17:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#20)

Damn. Soros has seeded these groups all over the country! I never thought that things would/could get so outta control, overnight. It's time for everyone to check their personal protection equipment to be sure it's still where it's supposed to be.

Remain safe and well, y'all.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   18:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

Phone call from Le Mesa Ca.

Family there in motor home headed to rural Oregon. Said looters destroyed business section. cops did nothing. Looters had 8 lanes of traffic blocked.

I lived in La Mesa for a long time prior to moving to Texas. It's hard to believe that riots were taking place there.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-05-31   18:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom, noone222, 4um (#22)

more on the socal rioting, burning, etc

www.foxnews.com/us/la-mes...ts-riots-violence-looting

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   18:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222, Lod (#22)

I lived in La Mesa for a long time prior to moving to Texas. It's hard to believe that riots were taking place there.

Internet is carrying photos of Le Mesa.

Family born there, have had enough.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   18:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod, Cynicom (#23)

There were very few blacks that lived in La Mesa area I lived in. I did live fairly close to Grossmont Center. This isn't even August Dog Days.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-05-31   18:33:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#23)

www.foxnews.com/us/la-mes...ts-riots-violence-looting

I watched that vid.

All I can say is in Chicago at the 1968 Democrat convention, the SDS were throwing baseballs with nails in them at the cops.

These cops don't know how lucky they have it. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-05-31   18:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222, Lod (#25)

They said cops not allowed do anything.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   18:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: noone222 (#25)

La Mesa area I lived in

I've never been down around San Diego. The closest I've been was on I-10 after picking up a load that was going to Fort Worth yard when driving for IWX. That was when I was driving solo back around 2007 or so. The exact date is fuzzy because of the meningitis. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-05-31   18:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom, noone222, 4um (#27)

They said cops not allowed do anything.

The stand downs are the worst part of all, I mean WTF are all those cops paid to do? It's insanity.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   18:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod, noone222, All (#29)

Here is first text from family in Le Mesa today.

"""They burned our town down last night"""

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   18:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom, 4um (#27)

They said cops not allowed do anything.

If Trump follows through on having those ANTIFA and other "activists" declared domestic terrorists, that should neatly sidestep those pesky civil rights that seem to have everybody's hands tied.

Guantanamo Bay is lovely this time of year, I've heard. Military tribunals probably aren't quite so liberal and "woke" as the activist judges infesting our civilian courts.

Yesterday, the white mayor, chief of police, and sheriff warned these people that the grown-ups are about to take charge. I think they meant it. The action that the governor took by getting the Indiana National Guard Reactionary Forces ready to roll seems to confirm that.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-05-31   18:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#30)

Soros, and his ilk, need eradication asap.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   19:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod, 4um (#32)

The protests here started up again today. It appears that less than 10% of them are black. Seems about 60% are fat white girls with purple, blue or orange hair, and the rest just a bunch of dopey white boys.

There's been a news blackout going on today, but a little is starting to trickle out. 29 arrests Friday, 70 arrests last night. Lots of property damage, injuries.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-05-31   19:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod, noone222, All (#32)

Soros, and his ilk, need eradication asap.

Adam Schiff sister is married to George Soros son.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   19:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#30)

"""They burned our town down last night"""

It's slick how our Massas and media make this about race.

My buddy told me his little town had a demonstration yesterday. 2/3 white folks in the crowd.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-05-31   19:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz, all (#35)

These DEMONstrations are evidence of some sort of mental illness, imo.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   19:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#34)

Eradicate them all, the world will be a better place.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-05-31   19:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lod, 4um (#36)

These DEMONstrations are evidence of some sort of mental illness, imo.

I agree.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-05-31   19:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lod (#36)

These DEMONstrations are evidence of some sort of mental illness, imo.

I disagree.

People are very upset by what happened and so am I.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-05-31   20:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#39)

People are very upset by what happened and so am I.

Upset by what in particular?

Cynicom  posted on  2020-05-31   20:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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