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Title: 'He Did Not Pray': Fallout Grows From Trump's Photo-Op At St. John's Church
Source: NPR
URL Source: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/02/8677 ... s-photo-op-at-st-john-s-church
Published: Jun 2, 2020
Author: Bill Chappell
Post Date: 2020-06-02 22:29:43 by Bill D Berger
Keywords: None
Views: 3087
Comments: 21

President Trump's controversial foray to St. John's Church on Monday is generating widespread criticism, after police and National Guard troops physically cleared out demonstrators, using tear gas, to allow a photo opportunity outside the church.

The bishop who oversees St. John's is among the critics.

"He used violent means to ask to be escorted across the park into the courtyard of the church," Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells NPR's Morning Edition. "He held up his Bible after speaking [an] inflammatory militarized approach to the wounds of our nation."

"He did not pray," the bishop continued.

"He did not offer a word of balm or condolence to those who are grieving. He did not seek to unify the country, but rather he used our symbols and our sacred space as a way to reinforce a message that is antithetical to everything that the person of Jesus, whom we follow, and the gospel texts that we strive to emulate ... represent."

Every president since James Madison has visited St. John's Church, which opened in 1816 and sits across the park from the White House. Despite that longstanding relationship, Budde says her diocese had no warning of Monday's visit.

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#1. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

What the hell's wrong with these sanctimonious ass-hats?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-06-02   22:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Bill D Berger, 4um, Cynicom (#0)

Budde says her diocese had no warning of Monday's visit.

I wonder why?????????????

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-02   22:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod, 4um (#1)

What the hell's wrong with these sanctimonious ass-hats?

I think the new terminology is TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-02   22:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1) (Edited)

What was Trump's "message" supposed to be here? Just standing there, holding a bible - what does that even mean?

Calling down God's wrath from the Old Testament or asking for healing and peace from the New?

And it wasn't even his Bible he admitted. No one else finds this unusual to say the least?

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2020-06-02   23:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Bill D Berger (#0)

Sidenote: Never trust a church with female 'pastors'.

Screen Name  posted on  2020-06-02   23:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Bill D Berger (#4) (Edited)

It was awkward.

Like a dog re-marking his territory after it's been soiled by some strays.

Screen Name  posted on  2020-06-02   23:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Bill D Berger (#4)

And it wasn't even his Bible he admitted. No one else finds this unusual to say the least?

Good heavens Bill.

That is grounds for impeachment right there.

Quick call Adam Schiff..

Cynicom  posted on  2020-06-02   23:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Bill D Berger, 4um (#4)

What was Trump's "message" supposed to be here? Just standing there, holding a bible - what does that even mean?

Trump is just a man, albeit with a great load on his shoulders.

What would you, as one of his advisors, recommended?

I'm no fan of any politician of any stripe, but no matter what he does, it is going to be wrong.

What should he do?

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-03   0:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

That is grounds for impeachment right there.

Get a grip - I'm just looking for some clarification.

He never quoted any scripture in his prior speech but then goes out and holds up a bible, and states to the crowd "it's a bible".

What's supposed to be his message?

It was a ridiculous spectacle, virtue signalling to the religious right.

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2020-06-03   0:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Bill D Berger (#9)

It was a ridiculous spectacle, virtue signalling to the religious right.

I recall Bill carrying his personal Bible, Hillary on his arm, entering church on a sunday morning, on live TV. America was enthralled.

Trump hiding in White House cellar was more interesting.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-06-03   0:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bill D Berger (#4)

What was Trump's "message" supposed to be here? Just standing there, holding a bible - what does that even mean?

Calling down God's wrath from the Old Testament or asking for healing and peace from the New?

And it wasn't even his Bible he admitted. No one else finds this unusual to say the least?

Hey you! Are you a team player, or not! Fucken thinkin more than the normals. Hammer down that nail.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-06-03   0:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Screen Name (#6)

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi is having a Bible Study.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

hondo68  posted on  2020-06-03   0:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Esso, Total Devotion Syndrome, TDS (#3)

I think the new terminology is TDS

Get well soon.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

hondo68  posted on  2020-06-03   0:42:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68 (#12)

Peeloosely husband is Jew, her parents were Jew and known as a crime family when her father was mayor of Baltimore.

The cops wanted to charge her brother with major crime but never happened.

This broad is a total fraud.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-06-03   0:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#12)

Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi is having a Bible Study.

She's a kike with a bandana around her neck. Fuck her.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-06-03   0:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz, 4um (#15) (Edited)

She's a kike with a bandana around her neck.

She's not a bad looking gal.

Fuck her.

Uh, no, thank you.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-03   0:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso (#16)

She went out of her way to dump on Tramp. Screw her.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-06-03   0:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz, 4um (#17)

She went out of her way to dump on Tramp.

And every American citizen. I can read.

Screw her.

Still, no thanks.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-03   0:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz, New American Satanic Bible (#15)

New American Bible Revised Edition – NABRE

It's a fake bible, like the one President Donnell has. They must get the Satanic group discount on those things.

Donnell is the more kosher kike, because he was circumcised by the Rabbi.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

hondo68  posted on  2020-06-03   9:12:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Bill D Berger (#4)

What was Trump's "message" supposed to be here?

The point is: the right to practice one's religion is something he will support.

I am hard pressed to evaluate the posts and responses being rendered here these days as belonging to the same people here a year or so ago ... I think their infantile children inherited their passwords !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-03   9:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#19)

It's important that we here keep in mind that the 4UM which was started by conservative voices and is currently supported and operated by persons that have libertarian or conservative views, it has never impeded, shadow banned or disallowed leftists, communists, SJWs, or anyone with a common and unfortunate perception.

It may be happening but if it is I am not aware of any conservative patriots or patriot bots that are paid to disseminate bullshit. I have now for the first time in a long time had to resort to the bozo filter rather than having discourse that wastes very valuable time.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-03   9:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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