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Title: HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd182.htm
Published: Apr 6, 2006
Author: Devvy Kidd
Post Date: 2006-04-09 17:31:15 by Uncle Bill
Keywords: Deport, Illegal, Aliens
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Comments: 37
HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS? NewsWithViews.com As I pointed out in my last column, border agents are being over run by this invading army. They warn amnesty doesn't work and they should know. That hasn't stopped Bush and Dictator Vicente Fox continuing to ooze their sophistry about rewarding the criminals already here with citizenship down the road. This promotion of lawlessness will do the same thing that happened after Reagan signed the monumental failure "immigration reform" bill back in 1986: We now have another 15-20 million criminals who have entered this country and demanding rights when they have none. Bush and Fox are fostering anarchy in this country as the rage over this invasion grows. On April 5, 2006, Drudge had an interesting flashback from 1993: Dem. Senate Leader Harry Reid: 'Our Federal Wallet Stretched To Limit By Illegal Aliens Getting Welfare' 'Even worse, Americans have seen heinous crimes committed by individuals who are here illegally' August 5, 1993 The Office of Sen. Harry Reid issued the following: "In response to increased terrorism and abuse of social programs by aliens, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) Today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in Congress. Currently, an alien living illegally in the United States often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country. "Our borders have overflowed with illegal immigrants placing tremendous burdens on our criminal justice system, schools and social programs," Reid said. "The Immigration and Naturalization Service needs the ability to step up enforcement. Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits often without paying any taxes. Safeguards like welfare and free medical care are in place to boost Americans in need of short-term assistance. These programs were not meant to entice freeloaders and scam artists from around the world. "Even worse, Americans have seen heinous crimes committed by individuals who are here illegally," Reid said." Like the lying jackal he is, Reid now says this, " “What the Kyl-Cornyn amendment really does is undermine the earned citizenship program in the committee bill. It would prevent millions of Mexicans, Central Americans, Irish and other nationals from applying for legal status because of status violations, not crimes. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants who would be affected by this amendment are not criminal aliens, but rather the exact classes of immigrants intended to be covered by title 6 of the judiciary committee bill. Our analysis shows that over 95% of the people potentially affected by this amendment are individuals whose only crime -- and crime is very loosely construed for purposes this have discussion -- is being in the United States out of status. 95%. “If the Kyl-Cornyn amendment passes, the United States will still confront a crisis of illegality and it will deny the will of the American people. Three out of four whom favor earned legalization for immigrants, who work, pay their taxes, learn English and stay out of trouble. “Mr. President, the bill before this body is a very fine piece of legislation....And it will allow places like Las Vegas, Nevada -- and Las Vegas isn't the only place, who is going they are going to build within the next few years, four to five years, 50,000 new hotel rooms. They need a minimum of 100,000 new workers. This legislation will allow that to happen. And there are places all over America that are faced not with those numbers that are as huge as that, but with big, big numbers. “And finally, Mr. President, what this legislation does that is now before the senate, it allows 11 million-plus people not to have to live in the shadows of America. A path of earned legalization, not like the old amnesty that was done when I served in the House of Representatives, but a path toward legalization. Stay out of trouble, pay your taxes, have a job, learn English, go to the back of the line." "Deny the will of the American people"? What BS. Hey, Harry: Turn on the tube, buddy. These illegals aren't "in the shadows of America." Old Harry apparently doesn't understand the concept of appeasement with an enemy. Reid is advocating rewarding criminal behavior for cheap labor. As Henrietta points out in her current column, this is what illegal aliens are costing you, me and our children: Education: $22.5 billion Bilingual Education: $3.3 billion AFDC: $2.4 billion SSI: $2.9 billion Social Security: $24.8 billion Housing Assistance: $2.6 billion Criminal Justice: $2.6 billion Jobs Lost by Americans: $10.8 billion Other Programs: $51.4 billion Food Stamps: $7 billion Health Care: $1.4 billion. All for "cheap" labor for big money donors regardless of the death and destruction. Reid's sell out position is to make sure Tyson and other corporations who buy these whores in Congress will get their money's worth. Reid wants you to continue funding the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars from the sweat of your labor for this current crop of illegals and the tens of millions who will smuggle themselves across the border now that they can see we have cowards running this country. [Watch this flash presentation] Additionally, the necessary infrastructure for any "guest worker" program is a joke: "Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who has seen the report, told his colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 2: “Let's be realistic. Our government bureaucrats simply cannot implement a program for 11 million illegal aliens. You'd all be shocked if you learned about the internal fraud and abuse at the Citizenship and Immigration Service. I have been investigating the internal problems at CIS as well as their backlog of national security cases. The bureau doesn't have an effective practice for reviewing these cases. Officials are being bribed. Visas are being given away. Green cards are being sold. CIS is giving out interim benefits, which is a precursor for additional privileges.... And we want this agency to handle the program in an effective manner? That's unrealistic.” Full column here. Uh, you can't deport illegals already here, there's too many These geniuses in Congress are using that mantra to prop up their endorsement of criminal behavior and the destruction already taking place by this invading army. They don't have the guts or the brains to figure out how to correct their previous mistakes with so called "immigration reform." So how do you round up and deport 15 million illegals? The federal government announces that all illegals will be immediately rounded up, so put your affairs in order and leave. Criminals do NOT get a free pass in this country or it makes a total mockery of our laws. If illegals don't leave, they will be rounded up by local law enforcement in cooperation with INS and deported. Where will you put the hordes during this process? Earlier this year it was announced that Kellog, Brown and Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton, was awarded a $385 million dollar contract by the unnecessary and wasteful Department of Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a "national emergency." In the language of the agreement it would appear these facilities will be used for temporary holding centers for illegals being rounded up for deportation. If that is indeed the case, then get them built and begin the process. Employers should be the first target of enforcement for identifying illegals. All employers should be required to have on file a certified birth certificate from any current or future job applicant. That employer would then call the county recorder's office in the state on the birth certificate to confirm that it was issued by that office and authenticate the document. If the current worker or applicant's birth certificate is a phony, the employer notifies INS immediately. It would be very easy to prove if an employer is lying. The individual at the county recorder/clerk's office simply fills out a form while on the phone with the employer which states that such and such a birth certificate for John Smith was verified to Janet Singer at ABC Candle Company on this date by me, and so forth. That way there is verification at both ends. It's cheap (one phone call) and manpower expended would be about five minutes. Mandatory jail time for employers who knowingly hire illegals. No fines. They haven't worked in the past because employers just pay the fine and continue hiring illegals. Six months in the slammer, no early time out. You do the jail time and then we'll see how many employers are willing to risk their freedom to hire criminals. It's called getting tough. Schools at all levels, including colleges, must turn over their lists of all illegals currently enrolled. The destruction of America's schools is documented to the moon regarding illegals so there's no need to rehash it here. Illegals have no right to free education in this country because they are not U.S. citizens. It's not my daughter's job to work her fingers to the bone to educate illegals. Indentured servitude is illegal in this country. Massive crack down on fake-ID mills: "At the root of the demand for counterfeit documents is a 20-year-old federal law that gave amnesty to roughly 3 million undocumented immigrants and, to discourage further illegal immigration, set rules for the workplace. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 required job applicants to present employers identification proving their eligibility to work in the United States. However, it did not require employers to verify authenticity." This is important and you can read a comprehensive analysis here about this loophole in the previous immigration "reform" law. Congress must notify the Social Security Administration to turn over their lists of all illegals. They've got them because illegals are paying social security taxes. All banks operating in the U.S. must turn over the identities of illegals they have given home loans. DEMAND the appropriate fence get built along the southern border and get it done NOW. Don't tell me there isn't enough money. This administration has been unconstitutionally raping the American people to the tune of ONE BILLION DOLLARS A MONTH destroying Iraq while leaving our borders open. The federal government can provide the materials ($$) and the National Guard for the four border states can get down there on the weekends and get that fence/wall finished in no time. I am sick of hearing how things can't get done instead of getting them done. All it takes is guts and the stomach to get a nasty job done. Of course, since we have few real men left in this country serving in public office, it's difficult. Without a doubt, once the round up begins, there will be violence, but we already have violence and lots of it from illegals. I have documented it as has Frosty Wooldridge and so many others. Our state prisons are overflowing with illegals running up costs and bankrupting the system. Whether these fools in Congress want to acknowledge it or not: this is a war. A war right here on our soil, not just on the border. Big trouble is coming. If we don't rout out these millions of illegals and deport them to their country of origin now, we may as well forfeit our country and I for one and not going to sit around and let that happen no matter how rough the going gets. Again: we must reconstitute the state militias because when these illegals go berserk, and they will, there is nothing standing between the hordes and your family and property. The states of the Union MUST take the lead on this and let me give you a few paragraphs from Dr. Edwin Vieira's column on the issue of the state militias and repelling invasion: "Second, although "the Militia of the several States" are State institutions, the States cannot dispense with them, either, because the Constitution presupposes their permanence, and the Constitution is "the supreme Law of the Land"...Obviously, if the States could dissolve their Militia at will, they could erase Congress's power to "call[ ] forth the Militia". They could render unfulfillable the duty of the United States to "guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government" and to "protect each of them against Invasion; and * * * against domestic Violence"...And they could even disarm themselves from "engag[ing] in War" when "actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay", because (absent dispensation from Congress) they would have no other armed forces to deploy. Article I, Section 10, Clause 3. "Third, because the Militia are State institutions, the Constitution reserves to the States an exclusive power and duty to "govern[ ] such Part of them as may [not] be employed in the Service of the United States", and a concurrent power and duty to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining their Militia if Congress refuses, fails, or is unable to do so, in whole or in part.....Indeed, if a negligent or criminal Congress, by shirking its duties or conspiring to defeat the Constitution, could render the Militia impotent and thereby put the Nation and States in peril, and the States nevertheless could do nothing to correct the situation, it would be absurd to speak of "the Militia of the several States" at all." (End of excerpt) In order to effectively round up these criminals and get them deported, INS will have to have back up at the state level. Due to the sheer numbers, beside regular law enforcement, it should come in the form of the state militias as mandated by the Second Amendment. I have sent the Dr. Edwin Vieira CD (scroll down to the bottom) to my sheriff and members of my state legislature. Don't use the excuse that it won't make a difference. A determined lady in Florida sent her sheriff a letter about the un-Patriot Act and he sent her a response in which he said that he would not violate anyone's rights for "that cause." See his hand written note here. Right now it's imperative that you call Congress and do it every day. Every morning I call my "gentlewoman" in the House and Feinstein's office. Please do the same until we bury these scavengers with a thunderous message. US Congressional Switchboard Toll-free Numbers: OPERATION WETBACK (1954) - 1,300,000 Illegal Aliens Rounded Up And Deported
By Devvy Kidd
April 6, 2006 
The continued sell out in Washington, DC over the illegal alien invasion continues. One of the biggest reasons illegals smuggle themselves across the border is financial incentives. Illegals are more than happy to risk being caught for free medical care, free education for their children who are also here illegally and for jobs. They have no fear of deportation because we have gutless cowards serving in Congress along with the four border governors. In this "new" bill sitting in the senate is a provision for in-state tuition for illegals! I wish this were an April Fool's joke, but it's no joke and a further indication that pond scum like John McCain could care less about the law and stopping the further rape and pillage of the public treasury to reward criminal behavior.
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#1. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
One at a time, by the 10s, by the 100s.........who gives a damn so long as they start doing it instead of running off at the mouth!
They have a plan to round up American citizens and put them in already built FEMA camps.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
Just who do they expect to pay their way when the takers outnumber the givers? It's as if they are saying, "You racist, evil white people, you don't want to let us rape you!"
To me, the illegals are much more of a threat to our country than any terriers, or al CIAda's that may, or may not be here. Now that I've re-read what I just wrote; I realize that our goob is more of a threat to our way of life than either of the above mentioned.
All you need is a Green Card that is interactive electronically like a Visa card. All large employers and all police stations would have a verification machine connected via phone lines to INS. Then you start demanding that everyone who has a job, applies for a job, goes to school, gets welfare, etc. enter their card into the machine. There would be nationwide riots for the first few weeks, but they would have to leave the country when they were cut off from all income whether it be work or welfare. After the riots died down, the police could go around the street corners where drugs are sold and test the Green Cards of the dealers and deport the illegals. Crime would be greatly reduced. As to Senator Reid's complaint that he need 100,000 construction workers, I would think he could do what everyone else does: Put an ad in the paper or call the union halls. There are people out there willing to work at union wages.
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Easy. You stop the welfare and food stamps and you fine employers of illegals $1,000 per day per offense, to start.
Here's the link: Alexander "Al" B. Cuppett, US Army, The Joint Staff, Retired TO General John P. Jumper The main thing to remember is that our military would never be used against us. 8-) Press 1 for English, Press 2 for deportation
A classic conditioning/testing drill to see how far they could go - and sadly, we failed the test (or passed, from their viewpoint) in Waco.
Easy. You stop the welfare and food stamps and you fine employers of illegals $1,000 per day per offense, to start. Amen. Stop the jobs and the welfare and only give emergency medical treatments and they go back to Mexico on their own. Forget the buses lined up from here to Alaska, George Will, you ninny.
Exactly right. The truth be known there were many Americans cheering them on.
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HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
#2. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
#3. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
Illegals are more than happy to risk being caught for free medical care, free education for their children who are also here illegally and for jobs.
#4. To: Diana. all here (#3)
#5. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
#6. To: robin (#2)
#7. To: Uncle Bill, rowdee, robin, diana, lodwick (#0)
HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
#8. To: robin (#2)
#9. To: Uncle Bill (#8)
#10. To: angle (#7)
HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
#11. To: lodwick (#9)
#12. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
how do you deport 20 million aliens.....
?????
#13. To: IndieTX (#12)
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#14. To: Uncle Bill (#13)
press 3 for 30-30 Winchester..press 4 for thompson auto..LMAO
#15. To: IndieTX (#14)
LOL! PDF: Mapping Census 2000: Hispanic or Latino Origin This is for the year 1990!. Think how much worse it is now. Check this out: Click Me
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#16. To: Uncle Bill (#15)
Holy Shit!!!!!! [a la John Belushi in Animal House] Holy Shit!!!!!!!!! We have freeking been invaded...but we already knew that.
#17. To: Uncle Bill (#13)
your tag..i'm amused. :P
#18. To: angle (#7)
yes! yes! yes!
Easy. You stop the welfare and food stamps and you fine employers of illegals $1,000 per day per offense, to start.
#19. To: Flintlock, Jethro Tull, Neil McIver (#15)
did you see this map?
#20. To: christine (#19)
Yep, i saw it. We knew it was coming and now it's here. I can't wait till we all turn on each other. I'd like to take out a few dozen FReepers before I get to the illegals.
#21. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
One at a time.
HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
#22. To: Phaedrus (#21)
Start with the 30% that are currently in fucking prison.
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
But don't stop with only the effing prisons.
#24. To: Phaedrus (#23)
Nope, only a start. Next on my list is anyone on govt freebees.
#25. To: christine (#18)
yes! yes! yes! I agree with the sentiment, but it is too draconian, and it will elicit the powerful opposition of the many biz's that emp illeagals. My friend across the street from my pop shop, owns a truss plant, employees a bunch of illegals ( and he has told me one of his nightmares is the INS raiding his place)yet there are PLENTY of US citizens who would be gratefull to work at his place. Possibly for a $5.00/day pay raise. And many employeers have no idea (or like to pretend to have no idea) if the documentation is real or not. We can run a credit card verification for 12 cents, and yet the US cannot seem to be able to verify a green card if a gun is held to it's head???? Bovine Scat, all of it. The enablers are in the elected government.
Easy. You stop the welfare and food stamps and you fine employers of illegals $1,000 per day per offense, to start.
#26. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
For starters, they have already got the FEMA boxcars and detention centers. Time to bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan and round up the illegals and close the borders.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! Sen. Barry Goldwater
#27. To: BTP Holdings (#26)
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! Sen. Barry Goldwater BTP Holdings posted on 2006-04-09 23:28:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply And roundup the entire extended Bush Family, all of the "GODS TO BE" all of em.
For starters, they have already got the FEMA boxcars and detention centers. Time to bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan and round up the illegals and close the borders.
#28. To: Uncle Bill, christine (#0)
How? You stop printing fiat currency that the whole world craves. Our monopolistic ability to bring this stuff into existance is why we have both a massive trade deficit and a massive immigration problem. Fix the first and the second goes away.
HOW DO YOU DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS?
#29. To: Neil McIver (#28)
It would be my first act.
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#30. To: Neil McIver, christine, robin, Jethro Tull (#28)
Mexican Constitution's Solution to US Immigration Policy Center for Security Policy The Congress has received lots of free advice lately from Mexican government officials and illegal aliens waving Mexico's flag in mass demonstrations coast-to-coast. Most of it takes the form of bitter complaints about our actual or prospective treatment of immigrants from that country who have gotten into this one illegally — or who aspire to do so. If you think these critics are mad about US immigration policy now, imagine how upset they would be if we adopted an approach far more radical than the bill they rail against which was adopted last year by the House of Representatives — namely, the way Mexico treats aliens. In fact, as a just-published paper by the Center for Security Policy's J. Michael Waller points out, under a constitution first adopted in 1917 and subsequently amended, Mexico deals harshly not only with illegal immigrants. It treats even legal immigrants, naturalized citizens and foreign investors in ways that would, by the standards of those who carp about US immigration policy, have to be called "racist" and "xenophobic." Mexico's Glass House For example, according to an official translation published by the Organization of American States, the Mexican constitution includes the following restrictions: • Pursuant to Article 33, "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." This ban applies, among other things, to participation in demonstrations and the expression of opinions in public about domestic politics like those much in evidence in Los Angeles, New York and elsewhere in recent days. • Equal employment rights are denied to immigrants, even legal ones. Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." • Jobs for which Mexican citizenship is considered "indispensable" include, pursuant to Article 32, bans on foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico serving as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, and chiefs of seaports and airports. • Article 55 denies immigrants the right to become federal lawmakers. A Mexican congressman or senator must be "a Mexican citizen by birth." Article 91 further stipulates that immigrants may never aspire to become cabinet officers as they are required to be Mexican by birth. Article 95 says the same about Supreme Court justices. • In accordance with Article 130, immigrants — even legal ones — may not become members of the clergy, either. • Foreigners, to say nothing of illegal immigrants, are denied fundamental property rights. For example, Article 27 states, "Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters." • Article 11 guarantees federal protection against "undesirable aliens resident in the country." What is more, private individuals are authorized to make citizen's arrests. Article 16 states, "In cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities." In other words, Mexico grants its citizens the right to arrest illegal aliens and hand them over to police for prosecution. Imagine the Minutemen exercising such a right! • The Mexican constitution states that foreigners — not just illegal immigrants — may be expelled for any reason and without due process. According to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action." The Bottom Line As the immigration debate in the Senate moves into a decisive phase this week, legislators who believe America's southern border must be secured, the Nation's existing immigration laws enforced and illegal aliens not rewarded with permanent residency and a direct path to citizenship are being sharply criticized and, in some cases, defamed as bigots and xenophobes. Yet, even their maximalist positions generally pale in comparison with the treatment authorized by the Mexican constitution. So the next time such legislators — and the majority of Americans for whom they speak — are assaulted by Mexican officials, undocumented aliens waving Mexican flags in mass demonstrations here in the United States, clergy and self-described humanitarians, businessmen and other advocates of illegal immigration ask them this: Would they favor having the US impose the same restrictions on immigrants — legal and illegal — that Mexico imposes on their counterparts there? Nothing of the kind is in the cards, of course. Nor should it be. Legal immigration and the opportunity for foreign investors and other nationals legitimately to contribute to this country are not only one of its hallmarks; they are among the reasons for its greatness. Still, we should not allow the hypocrisy of others' treatment of undocumented aliens in their countries to induce us to refrain from taking effective steps to prevent further illegal immigration: by building a fence along our southern border; by enforcing immigration laws in the workplace and elsewhere; and by discouraging more such violations — with potentially grave national security implications — by dealing effectively with those who have already broken those laws by coming here without permission.
April 10, 2006
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#31. To: christine (#30)
"Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be." And then, well, they came: 
John Wayne
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#32. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#28)
Interesting, no? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612166/posts? page=405#405 How did my tagline change without my input? I did not type "Elaine" in a tagline field at any time, in the entire 3+ hours of the broadcast. Screen capture 1 of 3: Screen capture 2 of 3: Screen capture 3 of 3: To: lainie Well, I'm guessing it was either a poltergeist or a rogue moderator. Of course, it could've also been the result of an electrical malfunction. Most likely a short circuit between the seat and keyboard. 407 posted on 04/09/2006 11:50:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson To: Jim Robinson Between the seat and the keyboard. You say that I'm the malfunction, in other words. Why do you say that, exactly? In the span of nine seconds, I inserted "Elaine" as a tagline, then deleted it, then posted the screencapture (thinking WTF is going on)? 409 posted on 04/10/2006 12:42:38 AM PDT by lainie To: lainie C'mom. Give us a break. No one reached through the wire and entered something into your tagline. This would be a hugh and series accusation. 410 posted on 04/10/2006 12:48:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 409 | View Replies ] To: Jim Robinson So, what is the explanation? 411 posted on 04/10/2006 12:49:54 AM PDT by lainie [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 410 | View Replies ] To: lainie We're back to square one. I have absolutely no idea. Must've been a poltergeist. Or maybe your Mac filled in the box automatically? 412 posted on 04/10/2006 12:59:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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#33. To: christine (#19)
I missed the map, thanks.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
#34. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
I think you do things in sequence. First the border should be protected by the US military, who are given orders to shoot to kill. Second, you build a wall that is electrified and/or has glass at the top. If you discover tunnels, you dynamite them. This is what we would do in Iraq, and I don't see why we should be nicer to people invading OUR OWN COUNTRY. If anyone gets through, I personally would consider giving them a hearing and then executing them except for children. Children should be sent back to Mexico. This, I guaranteed, would stop people rushing to the border within months of implementation. If Mexico doesn't like it - bleep 'em. I don't care. They would do the exact same things if we tried to penetrate their border. Other things that could be done include changing the Constitution so that birth here no longer automatically confers citizenship. As for people who are already here, I would grant a limited amnesty to those who have served in the US military (note, I say SERVED, retroactively), and those who have started up businesses and seem financially solvent and not a drain on the communities. Everyone else has to go home. We largely know where these people are - if they cannot prove citizenship, put then on goddam buses and send them back to Mexico. Employers who insist on using illegal aliens should be driven out of business with fines. The others should be forced to give a higher minimum wage than might be standard in other industries with full benefits to destroy all incentive of hiring these people. We should give NO benefits to illegal aliens. No medical treatment, drivers licenses, voting rights, housing - NOTHING. This would solve the problem within 2 years or sooner. Our problem is...we have no leadership nor any will to do what has to be done. This is not simply an economic issue, although it is that also, one of devastating proportions. It is also primarily a security and military issue - if we are going to retain the United States as is, and the inclusion of the Southwest and California within the Union, we MUST do these things and we have to do them soon. Playing nice is only going to make us lose in the end. These guys don't play nice. They want this terroritory. This is not about becoming "Americans". This is about gaining land for Mexico.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#35. To: mehitable (#34)
Just one itsy bitsy comment: I'm of the school that contends that nothing in the Constitution, including the Fourteenth Amendment, grants "birthright citizenship." Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment was intended only to grant citizenship to newly freed slaves---never to grant pregnant illegals the right to sneak in and pop out a "new American" at taxpayer expense. I'm not picking a quarrel with you :)...but "birthright citizenship" is one of those "hack-your-unborn-baby-up-with-a-scalpel" "rights": it just isn't in the Constitution. Here's a link to one of many on-line articles debunking so-called "birthright citizenship." :)
Other things that could be done include changing the Constitution so that birth here no longer automatically confers citizenship.
"Et cognoscetis veritatem, et veritas liberabit vos." ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.") ---Jesus
#36. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)
Yeah, I agree Peetie, but I think it's been interpreted regularlyy as giving automatic citizenship to whomever is born here, regardless of the original intent. After all, you know how the Constitution is just a goddamed piece of paper :)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#37. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)
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