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Title: A Warning for Americans: A Message from a South African
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Published: Apr 10, 2006
Author: Self
Post Date: 2006-04-10 07:00:52 by robnoel
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People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay* rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.
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#27. To: robin (#26)
Based on what? We never get news about SA, if there were race riots or things were that unbearable for the whites, we might hear about it. Googling South Africa or any of it's major cities doesn't show any state of chaos. Try it. Shows more or less a normal democratic country with it's share of bumps. No way is anyone going to convince me that SA was some paragon of Utopia in the apartheid days. It was, for a very small bunch of White SA's. For the rest, it was HELL. Yes, things have improved and the country is better for the decisions it made in the 90's.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Geez, they were simply trifling, eh? Whatever inequities existed, hell, the whole country was based on Maximum Inequity. How the hell can you say that. It was a total obscentity, apartheid SA. The most essential thing is the blacks aren't under the jackboots of the whites. Some whites may have problems with that, but reading the items listed in Google gives you a good idea that the country is a far better place today than in some bullshit, rose colored glass nostalgic vision of yesterday.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
So hellish that South Africa then, too, had an immigration problem from the rest of Africa. What civilization they had was due to whites. Period.
Wait until Mandela dies.
Now we get into immigration from other African hellholes into SA. No doubt about that. But, go ahead, put lipstick on that Apartheid pig.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Absolutely. Better than the alternatives. Except, perhaps, for never colonizing SA in the first place. On balance, in the long run, colonialism sure sucked for whitey.
On balance, in the long run, colonialism sure sucked for whitey. Oy, now that's a LOOOONG discussion. And pretty much moot, Colonialism happened, and for a variety of reasons. And colonialism would not have been successful if not for the venality and greed of many of the rulers of to be colonized countries. Blaming Europeans exclusively is silly; the rulers of places like Africa and Asia deserve a lot of the credit, too. By their incompetence, greed and local rivalries, they allowed their own countries to be taken over. I wouldn't say it sucked for Europe. If they hadn't fallen into WorldWarOne, the wealth expropriated from the colonies would have lasted them well and a lot longer.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
I'm not denying there were inequities. I'm suggesting a safer solution for all could have been found. You seem to believe that colonization had no benefits whatsoever, I disagree. Everyone is aware that apartheid is not a healthy system. But throwing the baby out with the bath water is no solution either.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
And I maintain that that solution has been found in SA today. The economic power of the whites was maintained; there was no wholesale emigration out by whites, there was no full blown race war. And the society seems to be getting along fine today. I don't see SA as a basket case as you seem to.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
It will be sweet justice indeed when all the illegal farm workers do to the farmers and ranchers here what has been done to those in Zimbabwe. They imported all those people as cheap labor and an mythical ancestral rights movement like the Aztlan movement gained strength. Add the communist agitators like we are seeing here now with the immigrant rights marches and what we will have in a few years is Zimbabwe and South Africa. I wonder when they start killing whites if the morons in this country will finally get a clue.
and if they get a clue, will they act?
Native American Indians will have nothing to do with Mexican illegals. Recently, one wrote a great article about how in past times, they chased them to Mexico more than once. I only wish they could do it again. There is an attempt to ignore the prior claim by Native Americans to Aztlan by La Raza and friends.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
Ford Foundation owns Aztlan radicalism lock, stock, and barrel. We have to merge with the Soviet Union, you know.
Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs
Anyone who does not look like they are related to Chertoff (at least in spirit) will be shown to their FEMA bunk in ”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
I recommend shoe polish. And guns. Good luck!
Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs
Tommy, was it you had interesting exchange with laVos de Aztlan and they said how much they hated Cherokee?
Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs
I'm thinkin' Kiwi paste, in RED.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
Agua Caliente, Pechanga and Thunder Valley casinos have them pretty busy right now, but maybe we should get some extra-special blend for the peace pipe and have a pow wow.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
It was a cakewalk.
Call yourself Swarthyguy, huh? Is that a code word for an 85-IQ negro?
"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
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Wow, Hi robnoel. Haven't seen your name in awhile. God bless. UB.
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I suggest you do a little home work before calling The New South Africa - The Same Old Bondage A Commentary on the Demise of South Africa In the mid to late 1980's, political violence and repression in South Africa was featured regularly on the evening news. International pressure against the white government was brought to bear in the form of embargoes and sanctions, resulting in political reforms and the election of Nelson Mandela as State President. Now that apartheid is forever abolished and a new constitution establishing "equality" is ratified, is the quality of life any better for South Africans of all colors? The old South African system of apartheid has been well documented by many capable and objective authors. It is not this author's purpose to examine apartheid, but to examine the fruits of democracy and decide if life has gotten better for the oppressed now that they can vote. Starving child An Increase in Crime, Unemployment and AIDS Crime has been a part of life in South Africa over the past several decades, but in recent years, especially since the African National Congress (ANC) was voted into power, there has been a steady flow of reports indicating a dramatic rise in violent crime. Statistics reveal that in 1994, the year of the ANC victory, South Africa became the rape capital of the world with about 99.7 reported rapes per 100,000 people. This included child rape which has increased 108% since 1993. (Johannesburg Star). The U.S. had 39.2 reported rapes per 100,000 for the same period, with Germany reporting 7.5. One of four females, including children, living in black townships are likely to be raped this year with Soweto township reporting 200 rapes every month. Rape crisis centers estimate that only one in 35 rapes is likely to be reported and, if that ratio is accurate, it would reflect that 809,404 rapes occurred in South Africa in 1994. (Figures obtained from The Star and the Mail & Guardian newspapers). South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world with Johannesburg possessing the distinction of "murder capital" of the world. Ninety out of every 100,000 persons will be murdered this year in South Africa. Often murders are committed in conjunction with rape and robbery. Inadequate record keeping and under reporting has hindered efforts to properly assess the acceleration of violence. (The Star and the Mail Guardian ). South Africa's government has blamed the wave of crime on unemployment. South Africa is also the unemployment capital of the world, with one out of three workers unemployed and 40% of black men out of work. (U.S. News & World Report ) . Economic factors have helped to create an atmosphere of despair, resulting in an unprecedented wave of crime. AIDS is another plague on the rise in South Africa. It is reported that 14% of all pregnant women are infected with aids and that 2.4 million South Africans are HIV positive, up 33% from last year's count of 1.8 million. Sexual assault and promiscuity, the results of breaking down the social order, has hastened the spread of this deadly disease. (The Star and the Mail & Guardian ). Eagle American Apartheid - Only Looks Better Why has democracy failed to bring about the bright promises of those proclaiming "the new South Africa"? Where is the material prosperity promised by the lifting of sanctions, the "car in every garage and a chicken in every pot" fruition of this international campaign to "free South Africa"? One might be inclined to wonder if many South Africans look back with nostalgia to the old days of the old order. The word "apartheid" literally means "apart-ness" and in South Africa these boundaries establishing "apart-ness" were drawn along officially defined racial lines and codified by law. Only people of European decent were allowed to vote, with limited representation being granted to Asians and those of mixed race later on. Supporters of apartheid have stated that this arrangement is necessary because of the unique racial make-up of the country, and that integration of all races in a common society would not guarantee peace, freedom and prosperity for all. Even while the international community worked itself into a self-righteous fit over South Africa's system of apartheid, it failed to recognize that it, too, was living within a system of "apart-ness". America's system of segregation, for example, is most clearly seen in the realm of material possessions. How much money you possess determines where you may live, who you may associate with, and what kind of legal representation you get when accused of a crime, etc. In America our version of apartheid is called "class". American apartheid is also practiced within the realm of thought or belief. If you say you go to church, for example, you will be asked, "which denomination?" in order that you may be classified and segregated into an officially defined group. If you apply for a job in a profession such as teaching or journalism, your views could be brought under intense scrutiny. If you profess to believe in absolutes, or even fail to exhibit adequate enthusiasm for the dogma of the ruling "class", you very well could be segregated out of a job and, hence, the privilege of making a living. American apartheid is far more oppressive than the South African brand, in that it is concealed and painted over to be the opposite of what it is. When all South Africans were permitted to vote, they traded in their old model of apartheid for the American brand. Even though racial segregation has been scrapped and every one can vote, a majority of black South Africans are still living in the same squalid townships as they did under the old regime, with the exception that now the circumstances are far more distressing. In the old days they feared the police and didn't have the liberty to demonstrate or join the political movement of their choice. Now they can demonstrate and join a political party, but they also have oppressors that are far more deadly than the white policemen of the old order. Hunger, want, assaults on life, person and property by marauding criminals who have no fear of punishment - - these elements existed under apartheid, but not to the extent that they now do under "democracy". Democracy - The Modern Method of Control It is the white, Afrikaans-speaking population that controlled the ruling Nationalist party under apartheid, and it is the Afrikaaner that has been the nemesis of British imperial rule in southern Africa over the past two centuries. Primarily of Dutch decent, the Afrikaaner has been called anything from "fiercely independent" to "bull-headed, racist and ultra-conservative." Not prone to entangling alliances or diplomatic niceties, the Boer (Afrikaaner) has posed a significant threat to the designs of internationalists seeking to subdue the African continent for their own profit. South Africa, with its rich gold, diamond, platinum and strategic mineral deposits, was at the top of the list. Since an outright military assault to overthrow the white-ruled government might raise a few eyebrows, it became necessary to subdue this nation by another means, more sophisticated but surer of lasting results. Thus a campaign was begun to bring "freedom and democracy" to South Africa. Neighboring Rhodesia, which was also guilty of neglecting the one person, one vote democratic system, didn't provoke the indignation of the international community until it declared its independence from Britain on November 11, 1965. On that same day, the United Nations Security Council branded Rhodesia "a threat to international peace and security", even though Rhodesia had never threatened its neighbors or had the capacity to do so. Soon afterward, President Johnson slapped an economic embargo on that country (seeThe United Nations Conspiracy by Robert W. Lee). It must be noted that Rhodesia's crime, as was South Africa's, was not its racial policies or political system, but its "go it alone" tendency in a world that was becoming more and more "interdependent" (whether it liked it or not). Nelson Mandella A Change in the Political Winds (or so it seems) The current policies of government in South Africa do not reflect the personal political philosophies of Nelson Mandela or the ANC leadership. For years Mandela's staunchest supporters were hard line communists and it was his stated goal to nationalize key industries such as mining, should he come to power. A couple of years before his release from prison in 1990, the South African government began implementing a policy of privatization. Public highways, the state owned transport services, and other publicly owned entities were passing into private hands. This was in compliance with the demands of the World Bank who was servicing South African debt and was making similar demands of other Third World debtor nations. When Mandela was released from prison, he changed his tune from nationalization to privatization. When he was elected State President in 1994, there was a seamless transition between the white-ruled government and his own in regards to economic policy. It was evident that Mandela had undergone a pre-election conversion. With the death of communism in the world, it was evident that the communist ANC was going to have to change its appearance to fit in with the "New South Africa" and the emerging "New World Order". A new ANC emerged that supported the "free market" system and other "progressive" policies, but Joe Slovo, a leading South African communist leader, recognized that socialism had merely changed its exterior, perhaps to placate the fears of the white minority. "We say loud and clear that history has not ended (for communism)....The corpse they are trying to bury is not true socialism" he proclaimed at the party's Eighth National Congress, Dec. 1991 (Chained Together by David Ottaway). This was about the time Gorbachev was signing away the "old" Soviet Union. More Than Getting to Vote The "new" ANC's economic policies were not the only things being molded and shaped after the new order of things. So were its social policies. Abortion on demand is one of the pillars of this renovated socialism and, after the ANC took power in '94, agitation for abortion rights began in earnest. Abortion was strictly illegal in the old South Africa except to save a mother's life until the recent Termination of Pregnancy law was passed. Now abortions may be performed on up to full term pregnancies, under certain conditions. Just a few weeks after abortion was legalized in January, 1997 by the ANC government, the South African Department of Health issued a shocking directive. The Mail & Guardian reported, "Babies who survive abortion attempts should be left to die even as they gasp for breath, according to new guidelines for the termination of pregnancy laid out by the Department of Health, and sent to all major hospitals last week...." (3-27-97). The directive itself reads, "if an infant is born who gasps for breath, it is advised that the fetus does not receive any resuscitation measures." This order is in line with the general trend toward infanticide as practiced in China, the U.S. and promoted worldwide under the auspices of the United Nation's population control program. This same directive lamented the fact that more than half of South Africa's health professionals refused to participate in the abortion procedure, and hinted that botched home abortions might force reluctant doctors to get involved to save the mother's life. It is evident that abortion will not long be a matter of choice for health care professionals, as is already the case with ANC members of parliament. Jennifer Ferguson, an ANC MP whose religious beliefs would not allow her to vote in favor of the Termination of Pregnancy bill, faced expulsion from the ANC after she abstained from the vote. "Essentially the political climate in this place is intolerant of true democracy," she was later quoted as saying in the Mail & Guardian (3-27-97). This new age system of socialism would not be complete without "death on demand", and the new ANC has taken the first steps in legalizing euthanasia in the "New" South Africa. Draft legislation has been released by the Law Commission recommending new legislation allowing so-called "passive euthanasia "- the withholding of life support or life-saving treatment to a terminally ill patient. Active euthanasia - the deliberate killing of a patient with a drug overdose - is also being considered, but stiff opposition is requiring a gradualist approach to legalizing and implementing it. Another item on the ANC agenda is the promotion of homosexuality. South Africa's new Constitution prohibits the discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, which makes outlaws out of churches that refuse to ordain homosexuals or accept them as members. Most churches have made it clear they will not compromise on this issue. "The general worldwide trend is not to allow government to dictate to churches," Wits University law lecturer and human rights specialist, Tsepho Mosikatsana, told the Mail & Guardian , "but our Constitution goes further than any other in that the spirit of equality in it would prohibit churches from excluding gays and lesbians." He went on to say, "I find a great deal of support in this document for the fact that churches may no longer exclude homosexuals from becoming members or even clergy." Interpreted this means that any person who believes in a literal interpretation of the Bible may have to go underground in order to worship according to his or her conscience. This issue will soon be tested before South Africa's Constitutional Court. sad face The Tyranny of Imported "Rights" Most South Africans and the rest of the world were under the illusion that when the ANC came to power, it meant that the majority of South Africans would now be free to control their own destiny. This is a cruel hoax. Even from its beginning, black protest bore the markings of foreign origin. Communist dogma, union organization, strikes, boycotts, and now this new age world socialism, burdened with its culture of death and myriad so-called rights, have not had their origin with the ANC leadership, but have been imported into South Africa by hundreds of different channels, all originating in the realms of international finance and control. These channels include the globalist think tanks, headquartered in the U.S. and the U.K., who were responsible for shaping the fine points of the ANC platform for the '94 elections and for influencing the policy of the South African government since the elections, just as they do in the U.S. "Top US aid agency accused of meddling in SA political issues" reads an article in a December, '96 issue of the Cape Argus newspaper in South Africa. The U.S. government's Agency for International Development (U.S. AID) has been the target of criticism in the U.S. Congress for using hundreds of millions of development dollars to direct the course of South African government policy. " AID has chosen all the wedge issues of South African politics" while not involving itself in the kind of routine development projects it carries out in other countries, according to a House Regulations Committee quoted by Cape Argus . "The agency has been involved in intensely political and controversial interventions in South Africa's domestic affairs," Cape Argus said, including " trying to shape the affirmative action agenda; forcing whites out of projects funded by the agency; attempting to influence and direct domestic political decisions; and making direct demands on the South African government for policy changes in projects AID has decided to support." U.S. foreign aid is one of the conduits used by internationalists to import subversion and instability into South Africa. Like the rest of Africa after liberation, the majority of black South Africans continue to groan under the most abject poverty and all the curses that come with it. Many blacks grew up in the era of protest against apartheid which included boycotting government schools, resulting in one-half of black adults being illiterate. Strikes, protests and obstructionist behavior by blacks were praised by the international community under apartheid, and now those tactics remain the only tools they possess to deal with the problems of life now that apartheid is gone. Rather than deal with a work force that is unskilled, unruly and prone to unionized disruption, companies buy modern machinery or send their factories into Asia or Central America. The emerging global economy is siphoning off whatever material benefits the blacks hoped to obtain when they got to vote. Democracy has become a cruel reality for them. White South Africans had hoped that in granting political concessions they would win the acceptance of the international community. Economic sanctions would be lifted and commerce would flourish once again. They are finding, however, that democracy means more than universal suffrage. It means the erasing of their Christian-based culture and replacing it with a post-Christian pagan culture and everything that comes with it - crime, fear, economic and political upheaval, and a gnawing uncertainty for life itself. The price for this so-called "freedom" increases day by day. Whatever the crimes of the old South African regime, they are no worse than those of the Communist Chinese government which enjoys Most Favored Nation trading status with the U.S. In 1960, 69 blacks were killed by South African police bullets in what is called the "Sharpeville Massacre", an event that touched off international indignation and violent protest in South Africa. Fewer died in Sharpeville than died at the hands of the U.S. government near Waco, Texas in 1993, or the Red Chinese army in Tiananmen Square in 1989, yet there is no official outcry over those events because human rights are not the object. Control and domination by the world's ruling elite is the true motivation. South Africans will now experience the results of their capitulation to international pressures and the falsity of the "liberation gospel" peddled by Anglican priests, American human rights activists, and other meddlesome carpet baggers. Instead of obtaining the illusory lifestyles dangled before them by American movies and television shows, they will experience the ever deepening slavery forced on all those who have sold themselves to the international system of finance and control. It is now too late for them to turn back the flood of confusion that has overwhelmed them. South Africa, "ye have sold yourselves for nought...."
South Africa is a joke today. Anyone with any sense has got the heck out of that hell hole by now.
God is always good! Thanks for the informed reply. I only wish we could get your broadcast here in the one party ruled city of Colorado Springs again. It was discontinued, for reasons I cannot recall five years or so ago. My wife still says she misses you particular show.
Thanks for the kind words but if you got internet you got RBN :-) http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Noel06.html
from 1996...I hope things are improving: This report is way over my head, but it isn't good news out of SA: Crime and Local Inequality in South Africa ”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
It is now too late for them to turn back the flood of confusion that has overwhelmed them. Robby, do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
It is too late only if we believe it is it. 250 million vs 25??
No...would not be doing what I do if I did..
LOL! The same as Teresa Kerry. Good for you. Save me your nostalgia for the ole days. They're gone. Now deal with reality instead of pining for the fjords! You don't live in SA nor are you a SouthAfrican; you're supposedly an American now; so deal with stuff here, instead of the lost homeland. It's gone. If you don't like what happened there, well, you had options. You bugged out. Let the South Africans deal with their own country.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
The kind you "like", nudge, nudge, nod, nod. Adios, Hombre, Happy Kwanzaa to you too.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Same could be said for the "Republic for which it stands"
hey Rob.. good to see you here on 4 again.. you've been missed..
OK, but the central theme of America today is nostalgia. That's funny, because America has lost its "innoncence" more often than a Saudi princess who has had her hymen restored many times in the clinics of Geneva and Switzerland. Between wiping out the Indians, the Texas Annexation, the Obscenity of Slavery, World War One (The Lusitania, the Zimmerman telegram), Smedley Butler, the Charge on the Washington Mall against the WorldWarOne Veterans, World War 2 (Pearl Harbor), indiscrimate use of Napalm in Korea, McCarthy, overthrowing elected leaders across the world in the 50's including Iran, one that's biting back now BIGTIME, JFK, RFK, MLK, Salting the Sands of Araby with DU, Starving Iraqi children and denying them medication in the 90's, etc etc, where the hell was the damn innocence anyway. The concept of the American state of innocence is a carefully contrived exercise in wilful ignorance. The Republic is as it ever was. In a state of flux. When less than 50% of Americans vote and apathy is paramount, the blame is not in some external boogeymen, but right in the heart of our Republic. It's not an AutoPilot enterprise, the Republic, it demands citizen participation. And the immigrants marching in large numbers has shown that they at least understand the power of Direct Action, have acted on it, and if there is no significant backlash will succeed in achieving their goals. Instead of bitching about them, perhaps we could think of some issue where similar numbers of Americans get worked up enough to do something - Prime Example - the MinuteMen on the Rio Grande and Arizona.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Based on your above...you did not read my post...here is a example It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace. White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you. We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history.
Your assumptions are erroneous. You did not "lose" your country. SA still exists, albeit in a form that you don't like. Any state that relies on putting down 90% of its citizens is at best, like SA, a long term anomaly. What is amazing is that such a system lasted for so long, supported by the US. When the US woke up to the inherent obscenity of such a system, the system fell. Now, all the people of SA are in it together. That's far better than a Lording Privileged Ruling Class based on skin color.
Any state that relies on putting down 90% of its citizens is at best, like SA, a long term anomaly. What is amazing is that such a system lasted for so long, supported by the US. When the US woke up to the inherent obscenity of such a system, the system fell. Now, all the people of SA are in it together. That's far better than a Lording Privileged Ruling Class based on skin color. Hmmm.. have you read anything about Abramoff's involvement in SA and some of what took place?? and what is now taking place there?? The people of SA arent in it all together at all.. look to SA and you'll see our future.
Israel and South Africa have had an extremely close relationship, particularly when Apartheid ruled. SA was considered a bulwark against Communism, and it's internal policies were tolerated by the West, including Israel. I don't know what Jack did in SA but it's irrelevant. He had fingers in a lot of pies.
Oh, the savagery happens. We're just not viewing it very often on the 10 o'clock news. Illegal alien criminals and murderers just don't make for good TV.
Liberal idiots are more than willing to allow people to die for their stupid idealistic notions.
One of my S/W radio heroes from many years ago. You were one of those brave men who helped open my eyes to the Truth, which I always knew inside, but which I had been conditioned not to articulate. Cognitive dissonance is a tough psychological defense mechanism to break, even when one is aware of it. Thank you.
#28. To: robin (#26)
Whatever inequities existed
#29. To: swarthyguy (#27)
For the rest, it was HELL.
I use antlers in all of my decorating.
#30. To: swarthyguy (#28)
far better place today
I use antlers in all of my decorating.
#31. To: Tauzero (#29)
#32. To: swarthyguy (#31)
But, go ahead, put lipstick on that Apartheid pig.
I use antlers in all of my decorating.
#33. To: Tauzero (#32)
Except, perhaps, for never colonizing SA in the first place.
#34. To: swarthyguy (#28)
#35. To: robin (#34)
#36. To: christine (#5)
#37. To: willyone (#36)
I wonder when they start killing whites if the morons in this country will finally get a clue.
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#39. To: robin (#38)
#40. To: Dakmar (#39)
Siberia Wyoming.
#41. To: robin (#40)
#42. To: robin, TommyMadArtist (#38)
#43. To: Dakmar (#41)
#44. To: Dakmar (#42)
Tommy, was it you had interesting exchange with laVos de Aztlan and they said how much they hated Cherokee?
#45. To: swarthyguy (#35)
The economic power of the whites was maintained; there was no wholesale emigration out by whites, there was no full blown race war.
I use antlers in all of my decorating.
#46. To: swarthyguy (#8)
The end of the Apartheid state is one of the better things that happened to South Afrika.
#47. To: swarthyguy (#23)
#48. To: robnoel (#47)
#49. To: swarthyguy (#35)
#50. To: swarthyguy (#9)
South Africa is a better country today.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#51. To: robnoel (#49)
#52. To: tom007 (#51)
#53. To: robnoel, swarthyguy (#49)
The Privatization of Crime in Southern Africa
By Jan Knippers Black
Gabriel Demombynes and Berk Özler
August 22, 2002
We examine the relationship between crime and local economic welfare in South Africa. Unlike previous studies, which use a much larger unit of analysis, we utilize data from 1066 police station jurisdictions. We find that inequality is strongly correlated with both property crime and violent crime. Once controls for the opportunity cost and benefits of crime participation are introduced, this correlation is substantially reduced for property crimes, while violent crimes remain strongly associated with inequality. Returns from crime, measured by mean per capita expenditure in the community, are strongly correlated with property crimes, and communities that are the richest among their neighbors experience significantly higher levels of residential burglary. Additionally, inequality between racial groups has no association with violent crime. The results are consistent with sociological theories that imply that inequality leads to violent crime. They also indicate that inequality is correlated with property crime chiefly through its association with the differential returns from such crime and that individuals may travel to commit property crimes. Finally, the evidence presented here is at odds with the notion that it is mainly the inequalities between racial groups that foster interpersonal conflict.
#54. To: robnoel (#49)
Control and domination by the world's ruling elite is the true motivation.
#55. To: christine (#54)
Robby, do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
#56. To: christine (#54)
do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
#57. To: robnoel (#47)
a real African American
#58. To: YertleTurtle (#46)
Is that a code word for an 85-IQ negro?
#59. To: swarthyguy (#57)
Save me your nostalgia for the ole days. They're gone.
#60. To: robnoel (#59)
#61. To: robnoel, aristeides, Fred_mertz (#59)
#62. To: swarthyguy (#61)
#63. To: robnoel (#62)
We lost our country
#64. To: swarthyguy (#63)
Your assumptions are erroneous. You did not "lose" your country. SA still exists, albeit in a form that you don't like.
#65. To: Zipporah (#64)
#66. To: robnoel (#0)
From the article: "Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves."
#67. To: robnoel, christine (#0)
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