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Title: A Warning for Americans: A Message from a South African
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Published: Apr 10, 2006
Author: Self
Post Date: 2006-04-10 07:00:52 by robnoel
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People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay* rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.
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#44. To: Dakmar (#42)
Agua Caliente, Pechanga and Thunder Valley casinos have them pretty busy right now, but maybe we should get some extra-special blend for the peace pipe and have a pow wow.
”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
It was a cakewalk.
Call yourself Swarthyguy, huh? Is that a code word for an 85-IQ negro?
"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
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Wow, Hi robnoel. Haven't seen your name in awhile. God bless. UB.
Press 1 for English, Press 2 for deportation
I suggest you do a little home work before calling The New South Africa - The Same Old Bondage A Commentary on the Demise of South Africa In the mid to late 1980's, political violence and repression in South Africa was featured regularly on the evening news. International pressure against the white government was brought to bear in the form of embargoes and sanctions, resulting in political reforms and the election of Nelson Mandela as State President. Now that apartheid is forever abolished and a new constitution establishing "equality" is ratified, is the quality of life any better for South Africans of all colors? The old South African system of apartheid has been well documented by many capable and objective authors. It is not this author's purpose to examine apartheid, but to examine the fruits of democracy and decide if life has gotten better for the oppressed now that they can vote. Starving child An Increase in Crime, Unemployment and AIDS Crime has been a part of life in South Africa over the past several decades, but in recent years, especially since the African National Congress (ANC) was voted into power, there has been a steady flow of reports indicating a dramatic rise in violent crime. Statistics reveal that in 1994, the year of the ANC victory, South Africa became the rape capital of the world with about 99.7 reported rapes per 100,000 people. This included child rape which has increased 108% since 1993. (Johannesburg Star). The U.S. had 39.2 reported rapes per 100,000 for the same period, with Germany reporting 7.5. One of four females, including children, living in black townships are likely to be raped this year with Soweto township reporting 200 rapes every month. Rape crisis centers estimate that only one in 35 rapes is likely to be reported and, if that ratio is accurate, it would reflect that 809,404 rapes occurred in South Africa in 1994. (Figures obtained from The Star and the Mail & Guardian newspapers). South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world with Johannesburg possessing the distinction of "murder capital" of the world. Ninety out of every 100,000 persons will be murdered this year in South Africa. Often murders are committed in conjunction with rape and robbery. Inadequate record keeping and under reporting has hindered efforts to properly assess the acceleration of violence. (The Star and the Mail Guardian ). South Africa's government has blamed the wave of crime on unemployment. South Africa is also the unemployment capital of the world, with one out of three workers unemployed and 40% of black men out of work. (U.S. News & World Report ) . Economic factors have helped to create an atmosphere of despair, resulting in an unprecedented wave of crime. AIDS is another plague on the rise in South Africa. It is reported that 14% of all pregnant women are infected with aids and that 2.4 million South Africans are HIV positive, up 33% from last year's count of 1.8 million. Sexual assault and promiscuity, the results of breaking down the social order, has hastened the spread of this deadly disease. (The Star and the Mail & Guardian ). Eagle American Apartheid - Only Looks Better Why has democracy failed to bring about the bright promises of those proclaiming "the new South Africa"? Where is the material prosperity promised by the lifting of sanctions, the "car in every garage and a chicken in every pot" fruition of this international campaign to "free South Africa"? One might be inclined to wonder if many South Africans look back with nostalgia to the old days of the old order. The word "apartheid" literally means "apart-ness" and in South Africa these boundaries establishing "apart-ness" were drawn along officially defined racial lines and codified by law. Only people of European decent were allowed to vote, with limited representation being granted to Asians and those of mixed race later on. Supporters of apartheid have stated that this arrangement is necessary because of the unique racial make-up of the country, and that integration of all races in a common society would not guarantee peace, freedom and prosperity for all. Even while the international community worked itself into a self-righteous fit over South Africa's system of apartheid, it failed to recognize that it, too, was living within a system of "apart-ness". America's system of segregation, for example, is most clearly seen in the realm of material possessions. How much money you possess determines where you may live, who you may associate with, and what kind of legal representation you get when accused of a crime, etc. In America our version of apartheid is called "class". American apartheid is also practiced within the realm of thought or belief. If you say you go to church, for example, you will be asked, "which denomination?" in order that you may be classified and segregated into an officially defined group. If you apply for a job in a profession such as teaching or journalism, your views could be brought under intense scrutiny. If you profess to believe in absolutes, or even fail to exhibit adequate enthusiasm for the dogma of the ruling "class", you very well could be segregated out of a job and, hence, the privilege of making a living. American apartheid is far more oppressive than the South African brand, in that it is concealed and painted over to be the opposite of what it is. When all South Africans were permitted to vote, they traded in their old model of apartheid for the American brand. Even though racial segregation has been scrapped and every one can vote, a majority of black South Africans are still living in the same squalid townships as they did under the old regime, with the exception that now the circumstances are far more distressing. In the old days they feared the police and didn't have the liberty to demonstrate or join the political movement of their choice. Now they can demonstrate and join a political party, but they also have oppressors that are far more deadly than the white policemen of the old order. Hunger, want, assaults on life, person and property by marauding criminals who have no fear of punishment - - these elements existed under apartheid, but not to the extent that they now do under "democracy". Democracy - The Modern Method of Control It is the white, Afrikaans-speaking population that controlled the ruling Nationalist party under apartheid, and it is the Afrikaaner that has been the nemesis of British imperial rule in southern Africa over the past two centuries. Primarily of Dutch decent, the Afrikaaner has been called anything from "fiercely independent" to "bull-headed, racist and ultra-conservative." Not prone to entangling alliances or diplomatic niceties, the Boer (Afrikaaner) has posed a significant threat to the designs of internationalists seeking to subdue the African continent for their own profit. South Africa, with its rich gold, diamond, platinum and strategic mineral deposits, was at the top of the list. Since an outright military assault to overthrow the white-ruled government might raise a few eyebrows, it became necessary to subdue this nation by another means, more sophisticated but surer of lasting results. Thus a campaign was begun to bring "freedom and democracy" to South Africa. Neighboring Rhodesia, which was also guilty of neglecting the one person, one vote democratic system, didn't provoke the indignation of the international community until it declared its independence from Britain on November 11, 1965. On that same day, the United Nations Security Council branded Rhodesia "a threat to international peace and security", even though Rhodesia had never threatened its neighbors or had the capacity to do so. Soon afterward, President Johnson slapped an economic embargo on that country (seeThe United Nations Conspiracy by Robert W. Lee). It must be noted that Rhodesia's crime, as was South Africa's, was not its racial policies or political system, but its "go it alone" tendency in a world that was becoming more and more "interdependent" (whether it liked it or not). Nelson Mandella A Change in the Political Winds (or so it seems) The current policies of government in South Africa do not reflect the personal political philosophies of Nelson Mandela or the ANC leadership. For years Mandela's staunchest supporters were hard line communists and it was his stated goal to nationalize key industries such as mining, should he come to power. A couple of years before his release from prison in 1990, the South African government began implementing a policy of privatization. Public highways, the state owned transport services, and other publicly owned entities were passing into private hands. This was in compliance with the demands of the World Bank who was servicing South African debt and was making similar demands of other Third World debtor nations. When Mandela was released from prison, he changed his tune from nationalization to privatization. When he was elected State President in 1994, there was a seamless transition between the white-ruled government and his own in regards to economic policy. It was evident that Mandela had undergone a pre-election conversion. With the death of communism in the world, it was evident that the communist ANC was going to have to change its appearance to fit in with the "New South Africa" and the emerging "New World Order". A new ANC emerged that supported the "free market" system and other "progressive" policies, but Joe Slovo, a leading South African communist leader, recognized that socialism had merely changed its exterior, perhaps to placate the fears of the white minority. "We say loud and clear that history has not ended (for communism)....The corpse they are trying to bury is not true socialism" he proclaimed at the party's Eighth National Congress, Dec. 1991 (Chained Together by David Ottaway). This was about the time Gorbachev was signing away the "old" Soviet Union. More Than Getting to Vote The "new" ANC's economic policies were not the only things being molded and shaped after the new order of things. So were its social policies. Abortion on demand is one of the pillars of this renovated socialism and, after the ANC took power in '94, agitation for abortion rights began in earnest. Abortion was strictly illegal in the old South Africa except to save a mother's life until the recent Termination of Pregnancy law was passed. Now abortions may be performed on up to full term pregnancies, under certain conditions. Just a few weeks after abortion was legalized in January, 1997 by the ANC government, the South African Department of Health issued a shocking directive. The Mail & Guardian reported, "Babies who survive abortion attempts should be left to die even as they gasp for breath, according to new guidelines for the termination of pregnancy laid out by the Department of Health, and sent to all major hospitals last week...." (3-27-97). The directive itself reads, "if an infant is born who gasps for breath, it is advised that the fetus does not receive any resuscitation measures." This order is in line with the general trend toward infanticide as practiced in China, the U.S. and promoted worldwide under the auspices of the United Nation's population control program. This same directive lamented the fact that more than half of South Africa's health professionals refused to participate in the abortion procedure, and hinted that botched home abortions might force reluctant doctors to get involved to save the mother's life. It is evident that abortion will not long be a matter of choice for health care professionals, as is already the case with ANC members of parliament. Jennifer Ferguson, an ANC MP whose religious beliefs would not allow her to vote in favor of the Termination of Pregnancy bill, faced expulsion from the ANC after she abstained from the vote. "Essentially the political climate in this place is intolerant of true democracy," she was later quoted as saying in the Mail & Guardian (3-27-97). This new age system of socialism would not be complete without "death on demand", and the new ANC has taken the first steps in legalizing euthanasia in the "New" South Africa. Draft legislation has been released by the Law Commission recommending new legislation allowing so-called "passive euthanasia "- the withholding of life support or life-saving treatment to a terminally ill patient. Active euthanasia - the deliberate killing of a patient with a drug overdose - is also being considered, but stiff opposition is requiring a gradualist approach to legalizing and implementing it. Another item on the ANC agenda is the promotion of homosexuality. South Africa's new Constitution prohibits the discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, which makes outlaws out of churches that refuse to ordain homosexuals or accept them as members. Most churches have made it clear they will not compromise on this issue. "The general worldwide trend is not to allow government to dictate to churches," Wits University law lecturer and human rights specialist, Tsepho Mosikatsana, told the Mail & Guardian , "but our Constitution goes further than any other in that the spirit of equality in it would prohibit churches from excluding gays and lesbians." He went on to say, "I find a great deal of support in this document for the fact that churches may no longer exclude homosexuals from becoming members or even clergy." Interpreted this means that any person who believes in a literal interpretation of the Bible may have to go underground in order to worship according to his or her conscience. This issue will soon be tested before South Africa's Constitutional Court. sad face The Tyranny of Imported "Rights" Most South Africans and the rest of the world were under the illusion that when the ANC came to power, it meant that the majority of South Africans would now be free to control their own destiny. This is a cruel hoax. Even from its beginning, black protest bore the markings of foreign origin. Communist dogma, union organization, strikes, boycotts, and now this new age world socialism, burdened with its culture of death and myriad so-called rights, have not had their origin with the ANC leadership, but have been imported into South Africa by hundreds of different channels, all originating in the realms of international finance and control. These channels include the globalist think tanks, headquartered in the U.S. and the U.K., who were responsible for shaping the fine points of the ANC platform for the '94 elections and for influencing the policy of the South African government since the elections, just as they do in the U.S. "Top US aid agency accused of meddling in SA political issues" reads an article in a December, '96 issue of the Cape Argus newspaper in South Africa. The U.S. government's Agency for International Development (U.S. AID) has been the target of criticism in the U.S. Congress for using hundreds of millions of development dollars to direct the course of South African government policy. " AID has chosen all the wedge issues of South African politics" while not involving itself in the kind of routine development projects it carries out in other countries, according to a House Regulations Committee quoted by Cape Argus . "The agency has been involved in intensely political and controversial interventions in South Africa's domestic affairs," Cape Argus said, including " trying to shape the affirmative action agenda; forcing whites out of projects funded by the agency; attempting to influence and direct domestic political decisions; and making direct demands on the South African government for policy changes in projects AID has decided to support." U.S. foreign aid is one of the conduits used by internationalists to import subversion and instability into South Africa. Like the rest of Africa after liberation, the majority of black South Africans continue to groan under the most abject poverty and all the curses that come with it. Many blacks grew up in the era of protest against apartheid which included boycotting government schools, resulting in one-half of black adults being illiterate. Strikes, protests and obstructionist behavior by blacks were praised by the international community under apartheid, and now those tactics remain the only tools they possess to deal with the problems of life now that apartheid is gone. Rather than deal with a work force that is unskilled, unruly and prone to unionized disruption, companies buy modern machinery or send their factories into Asia or Central America. The emerging global economy is siphoning off whatever material benefits the blacks hoped to obtain when they got to vote. Democracy has become a cruel reality for them. White South Africans had hoped that in granting political concessions they would win the acceptance of the international community. Economic sanctions would be lifted and commerce would flourish once again. They are finding, however, that democracy means more than universal suffrage. It means the erasing of their Christian-based culture and replacing it with a post-Christian pagan culture and everything that comes with it - crime, fear, economic and political upheaval, and a gnawing uncertainty for life itself. The price for this so-called "freedom" increases day by day. Whatever the crimes of the old South African regime, they are no worse than those of the Communist Chinese government which enjoys Most Favored Nation trading status with the U.S. In 1960, 69 blacks were killed by South African police bullets in what is called the "Sharpeville Massacre", an event that touched off international indignation and violent protest in South Africa. Fewer died in Sharpeville than died at the hands of the U.S. government near Waco, Texas in 1993, or the Red Chinese army in Tiananmen Square in 1989, yet there is no official outcry over those events because human rights are not the object. Control and domination by the world's ruling elite is the true motivation. South Africans will now experience the results of their capitulation to international pressures and the falsity of the "liberation gospel" peddled by Anglican priests, American human rights activists, and other meddlesome carpet baggers. Instead of obtaining the illusory lifestyles dangled before them by American movies and television shows, they will experience the ever deepening slavery forced on all those who have sold themselves to the international system of finance and control. It is now too late for them to turn back the flood of confusion that has overwhelmed them. South Africa, "ye have sold yourselves for nought...."
South Africa is a joke today. Anyone with any sense has got the heck out of that hell hole by now.
God is always good! Thanks for the informed reply. I only wish we could get your broadcast here in the one party ruled city of Colorado Springs again. It was discontinued, for reasons I cannot recall five years or so ago. My wife still says she misses you particular show.
Thanks for the kind words but if you got internet you got RBN :-) http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Noel06.html
from 1996...I hope things are improving: This report is way over my head, but it isn't good news out of SA: Crime and Local Inequality in South Africa ”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt
It is now too late for them to turn back the flood of confusion that has overwhelmed them. Robby, do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
It is too late only if we believe it is it. 250 million vs 25??
No...would not be doing what I do if I did..
LOL! The same as Teresa Kerry. Good for you. Save me your nostalgia for the ole days. They're gone. Now deal with reality instead of pining for the fjords! You don't live in SA nor are you a SouthAfrican; you're supposedly an American now; so deal with stuff here, instead of the lost homeland. It's gone. If you don't like what happened there, well, you had options. You bugged out. Let the South Africans deal with their own country.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
The kind you "like", nudge, nudge, nod, nod. Adios, Hombre, Happy Kwanzaa to you too.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Same could be said for the "Republic for which it stands"
hey Rob.. good to see you here on 4 again.. you've been missed..
OK, but the central theme of America today is nostalgia. That's funny, because America has lost its "innoncence" more often than a Saudi princess who has had her hymen restored many times in the clinics of Geneva and Switzerland. Between wiping out the Indians, the Texas Annexation, the Obscenity of Slavery, World War One (The Lusitania, the Zimmerman telegram), Smedley Butler, the Charge on the Washington Mall against the WorldWarOne Veterans, World War 2 (Pearl Harbor), indiscrimate use of Napalm in Korea, McCarthy, overthrowing elected leaders across the world in the 50's including Iran, one that's biting back now BIGTIME, JFK, RFK, MLK, Salting the Sands of Araby with DU, Starving Iraqi children and denying them medication in the 90's, etc etc, where the hell was the damn innocence anyway. The concept of the American state of innocence is a carefully contrived exercise in wilful ignorance. The Republic is as it ever was. In a state of flux. When less than 50% of Americans vote and apathy is paramount, the blame is not in some external boogeymen, but right in the heart of our Republic. It's not an AutoPilot enterprise, the Republic, it demands citizen participation. And the immigrants marching in large numbers has shown that they at least understand the power of Direct Action, have acted on it, and if there is no significant backlash will succeed in achieving their goals. Instead of bitching about them, perhaps we could think of some issue where similar numbers of Americans get worked up enough to do something - Prime Example - the MinuteMen on the Rio Grande and Arizona.
If we can impeach a President for lying about a blow job from an intern, the time has come to impeach a President from giving the American people a line of bullshit about Iraq used to justify a war that has left almost 2400 American soldiers dead. George Bush did not leak to protect America. He leaked to cover his ass. That, my friends, is the definition of a coward. -Larry Johnson
Based on your above...you did not read my post...here is a example It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace. White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you. We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history.
Your assumptions are erroneous. You did not "lose" your country. SA still exists, albeit in a form that you don't like. Any state that relies on putting down 90% of its citizens is at best, like SA, a long term anomaly. What is amazing is that such a system lasted for so long, supported by the US. When the US woke up to the inherent obscenity of such a system, the system fell. Now, all the people of SA are in it together. That's far better than a Lording Privileged Ruling Class based on skin color.
Any state that relies on putting down 90% of its citizens is at best, like SA, a long term anomaly. What is amazing is that such a system lasted for so long, supported by the US. When the US woke up to the inherent obscenity of such a system, the system fell. Now, all the people of SA are in it together. That's far better than a Lording Privileged Ruling Class based on skin color. Hmmm.. have you read anything about Abramoff's involvement in SA and some of what took place?? and what is now taking place there?? The people of SA arent in it all together at all.. look to SA and you'll see our future.
Israel and South Africa have had an extremely close relationship, particularly when Apartheid ruled. SA was considered a bulwark against Communism, and it's internal policies were tolerated by the West, including Israel. I don't know what Jack did in SA but it's irrelevant. He had fingers in a lot of pies.
Oh, the savagery happens. We're just not viewing it very often on the 10 o'clock news. Illegal alien criminals and murderers just don't make for good TV.
Liberal idiots are more than willing to allow people to die for their stupid idealistic notions.
One of my S/W radio heroes from many years ago. You were one of those brave men who helped open my eyes to the Truth, which I always knew inside, but which I had been conditioned not to articulate. Cognitive dissonance is a tough psychological defense mechanism to break, even when one is aware of it. Thank you.
Tommy, was it you had interesting exchange with laVos de Aztlan and they said how much they hated Cherokee?
#45. To: swarthyguy (#35)
The economic power of the whites was maintained; there was no wholesale emigration out by whites, there was no full blown race war.
I use antlers in all of my decorating.
#46. To: swarthyguy (#8)
The end of the Apartheid state is one of the better things that happened to South Afrika.
#47. To: swarthyguy (#23)
#48. To: robnoel (#47)
#49. To: swarthyguy (#35)
#50. To: swarthyguy (#9)
South Africa is a better country today.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#51. To: robnoel (#49)
#52. To: tom007 (#51)
#53. To: robnoel, swarthyguy (#49)
The Privatization of Crime in Southern Africa
By Jan Knippers Black
Gabriel Demombynes and Berk Özler
August 22, 2002
We examine the relationship between crime and local economic welfare in South Africa. Unlike previous studies, which use a much larger unit of analysis, we utilize data from 1066 police station jurisdictions. We find that inequality is strongly correlated with both property crime and violent crime. Once controls for the opportunity cost and benefits of crime participation are introduced, this correlation is substantially reduced for property crimes, while violent crimes remain strongly associated with inequality. Returns from crime, measured by mean per capita expenditure in the community, are strongly correlated with property crimes, and communities that are the richest among their neighbors experience significantly higher levels of residential burglary. Additionally, inequality between racial groups has no association with violent crime. The results are consistent with sociological theories that imply that inequality leads to violent crime. They also indicate that inequality is correlated with property crime chiefly through its association with the differential returns from such crime and that individuals may travel to commit property crimes. Finally, the evidence presented here is at odds with the notion that it is mainly the inequalities between racial groups that foster interpersonal conflict.
#54. To: robnoel (#49)
Control and domination by the world's ruling elite is the true motivation.
#55. To: christine (#54)
Robby, do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
#56. To: christine (#54)
do you think, as I do, that it's too late for us too?
#57. To: robnoel (#47)
a real African American
#58. To: YertleTurtle (#46)
Is that a code word for an 85-IQ negro?
#59. To: swarthyguy (#57)
Save me your nostalgia for the ole days. They're gone.
#60. To: robnoel (#59)
#61. To: robnoel, aristeides, Fred_mertz (#59)
#62. To: swarthyguy (#61)
#63. To: robnoel (#62)
We lost our country
#64. To: swarthyguy (#63)
Your assumptions are erroneous. You did not "lose" your country. SA still exists, albeit in a form that you don't like.
#65. To: Zipporah (#64)
#66. To: robnoel (#0)
From the article: "Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves."
#67. To: robnoel, christine (#0)
#68. To: swarthyguy (#65)
I don't know what Jack did in SA but it's irrelevant. He had fingers in a lot of pies. I'm not saying that the prior regime was without fault.. think of a parallel with the situation here in the US.. the leadership was corrupt as you mentioned BUT think again the US and what we're facing.. now.. the protests etc.. the INC is and are communists.. what we're witnessing worldwide is a revolution.. but not of the people.. manipulated and orchestrated And on Abramoff not exactly irrelevant.. From Democracy Now.. "And what does Jack Abramoff have to do with South Africa? In the 1980s, he was head of the pro-apartheid International Freedom Foundation in Washington. Jack Abramoff. In 1989, Abramoff produced the film Red Scorpion. It was filmed in South African-occupied Namibia, with the cooperation of the notorious apartheid regime. But before that, Abramoff helped launch the pro-apartheid International Freedom Foundation in the mid-1980s. The IFF was promoted as an independent think tank, but it was actually part of an elaborate South African military intelligence operation set up to combat sanctions and undermine Nelson Mandela's African National Congress. While Abramoff headed the IFF in Washington, in South Africa it was run in part by Craig Williamson, a notorious military intelligence officer known for carrying out a series of bombings and assassinations. I asked Allister Sparks to talk about Craig Williamson's record. ALLISTER SPARKS: Oh, Craig Williamson was one of our more odious intelligence spies. Intelligence? Well, I suppose, it's the right word. He was quite smart the way he went about things. He, first of all, infiltrated student organizations. He went abroad. He operated out of Geneva for a time, working in international students in that field, shopping many of his colleagues. They didn't know. They thought he was a good guy. And, you know, part of the student movement, which was opposed to apartheid, he embedded himself very successfully there. But then, later, his activities became increasingly horrendous. I mean, he took to planting or sending letter bombs to various people. He was responsible for killing one of the leading white opposition figures, Ruth First, who was married to Joe Slovo. They were both communists, and I suppose it was deemed that that made them fair game. And she was blown up in her office at the University in Maputo. She was killed. He was also involved in the killing of the family of an Afrikaner, a white Afrikaner dissident named Marius Schoon, whose -- a letter bomb killed his wife, his daughter, and injured a two-year-old boy who was left floundering around in this devastated home for two days before anyone found him. Yeah, that's the record of Craig Williamson. He also was involved in an organization called Stratcom, which was Strategic Communications, which involved planting smear letters of anti-apartheid activists, or smear stories. Again, there were gullible journalists, or some of them were plants and colleagues of his. And he and his organization succeeded in getting stories published, which discredited, you know, really good brave activists and anybody who was perceived to be anti-government or was in their way or who needed to be discredited. You know, that's his career. That's his record. And you're telling me that Mr. Abramoff was a colleague, was involved with him. "
#69. To: Zipporah (#64)
Well, maybe, guess I'm not such a pessimist. I don't understand your alarmism. What is frightening is the nostalgia for a state such as the Old South Africa.
look to SA and you'll see our future
#70. To: Zipporah (#68)
Y'know for everything the Black Nationalist Resistance did, there was far more egregious crimes committed by the Whites upon the Blacks for decades if not centuries. You throw some ole Afrikaner out at me, I can play that game too, Steven Biko was murdered by the police there. And that canard of communism, if you were the ANC, where would you have turned to for support? The Capitalist West, the very supporters of Apartheid that were killing your people everyday?
#71. To: swarthyguy (#69)
I don't understand your alarmism. What is frightening is the nostalgia for a state such as the Old South Africa. It's understandable from his standpoint.. hes African by origin.. Africa as a continent now is failing.. they can't even feed themselves.. the farms are laying waste.. Did you watch the demonstrations by the illegals per chance? That is were my concern is for our country.. And we need to learn from what took place and is taking place elsewhere..
Well, maybe, guess I'm not such a pessimist.
#72. To: Zipporah (#68)
So Abramoff supported Apartheid. Or did he? So what? Listen, there is no way you or anyone is going to convince me that Apartheid, a system as morally putrid and utterly devoid of humanity as Mao's genocidal communism was something to be admired. Kinda like the Russians waxing nostalgic for Uncle Joe. Or the Khmer for PolPot. It deserved to go.
#73. To: Zipporah (#71)
He may be African but his nostalgia is for a system that systematically dehumanized and brutalized ninety percent of the population of that country.
#74. To: swarthyguy (#72)
Your problem is never living in the country you pass judgements on it's the same problem Bush is now dealing with in Iraq,there was a very good reason why whites and blacks were seperated but judging by your posts you will never get it... no matter what I say
#75. To: robnoel (#74)
Ah, yes. All those wonderful good reasons. They aren't seperated in the States, at least not formally, why move to a country that finally gave the black man his due rights.
there was a very good reason why whites and blacks were seperated
#76. To: swarthyguy (#72)
I guess you didnt read all of my reply to you..
So Abramoff supported Apartheid. Or did he? So what? Listen, there is no way you or anyone is going to convince me that Apartheid, a system as morally putrid and utterly devoid of humanity as Mao's genocidal communism was something to be admired. Kinda like the Russians waxing nostalgic for Uncle Joe. Or the Khmer for PolPot. It deserved to go.
#77. To: swarthyguy (#75)
Like I said you don't get it and never will you are lost in your own little misguided world...you suffer from buying into the "cultural Marxism"argument...if you seek help you may overcome it...here is your first class An Accuracy in Academia Address by Bill Lind Variations of this speech have been delivered to various AIA conferences including the 2000 Consevative University at American University Where does all this stuff that you’ve heard about this morning – the victim feminism, the gay rights movement, the invented statistics, the rewritten history, the lies, the demands, all the rest of it – where does it come from? For the first time in our history, Americans have to be fearful of what they say, of what they write, and of what they think. They have to be afraid of using the wrong word, a word denounced as offensive or insensitive, or racist, sexist, or homophobic. We have seen other countries, particularly in this century, where this has been the case. And we have always regarded them with a mixture of pity, and to be truthful, some amusement, because it has struck us as so strange that people would allow a situation to develop where they would be afraid of what words they used. But we now have this situation in this country. We have it primarily on college campuses, but it is spreading throughout the whole society. Were does it come from? What is it? We call it "Political Correctness." The name originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, and we tend still to think of it as only half-serious. In fact, it’s deadly serious. It is the great disease of our century, the disease that has left tens of millions of people dead in Europe, in Russia, in China, indeed around the world. It is the disease of ideology. PC is not funny. PC is deadly serious. If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious. First of all, both are totalitarian ideologies. The totalitarian nature of Political Correctness is revealed nowhere more clearly than on college campuses, many of which at this point are small ivy covered North Koreas, where the student or faculty member who dares to cross any of the lines set up by the gender feminist or the homosexual-rights activists, or the local black or Hispanic group, or any of the other sainted "victims" groups that PC revolves around, quickly find themselves in judicial trouble. Within the small legal system of the college, they face formal charges – some star-chamber proceeding – and punishment. That is a little look into the future that Political Correctness intends for the nation as a whole. Indeed, all ideologies are totalitarian because the essence of an ideology (I would note that conservatism correctly understood is not an ideology) is to take some philosophy and say on the basis of this philosophy certain things must be true – such as the whole of the history of our culture is the history of the oppression of women. Since reality contradicts that, reality must be forbidden. It must become forbidden to acknowledge the reality of our history. People must be forced to live a lie, and since people are naturally reluctant to live a lie, they naturally use their ears and eyes to look out and say, "Wait a minute. This isn’t true. I can see it isn’t true," the power of the state must be put behind the demand to live a lie. That is why ideology invariably creates a totalitarian state. Second, the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness, like economic Marxism, has a single factor explanation of history. Economic Marxism says that all of history is determined by ownership of means of production. Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, says that all history is determined by power, by which groups defined in terms of race, sex, etc., have power over which other groups. Nothing else matters. All literature, indeed, is about that. Everything in the past is about that one thing. Third, just as in classical economic Marxism certain groups, i.e. workers and peasants, are a priori good, and other groups, i.e., the bourgeoisie and capital owners, are evil. In the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness certain groups are good – feminist women, (only feminist women, non-feminist women are deemed not to exist) blacks, Hispanics, homosexuals. These groups are determined to be "victims," and therefore automatically good regardless of what any of them do. Similarly, white males are determined automatically to be evil, thereby becoming the equivalent of the bourgeoisie in economic Marxism. Fourth, both economic and cultural Marxism rely on expropriation. When the classical Marxists, the communists, took over a country like Russia, they expropriated the bourgeoisie, they took away their property. Similarly, when the cultural Marxists take over a university campus, they expropriate through things like quotas for admissions. When a white student with superior qualifications is denied admittance to a college in favor of a black or Hispanic who isn’t as well qualified, the white student is expropriated. And indeed, affirmative action, in our whole society today, is a system of expropriation. White owned companies don’t get a contract because the contract is reserved for a company owned by, say, Hispanics or women. So expropriation is a principle tool for both forms of Marxism. And finally, both have a method of analysis that automatically gives the answers they want. For the classical Marxist, it’s Marxist economics. For the cultural Marxist, it’s deconstruction. Deconstruction essentially takes any text, removes all meaning from it and re-inserts any meaning desired. So we find, for example, that all of Shakespeare is about the suppression of women, or the Bible is really about race and gender. All of these texts simply become grist for the mill, which proves that "all history is about which groups have power over which other groups." So the parallels are very evident between the classical Marxism that we’re familiar with in the old Soviet Union and the cultural Marxism that we see today as Political Correctness. But the parallels are not accidents. The parallels did not come from nothing. The fact of the matter is that Political Correctness has a history, a history that is much longer than many people are aware of outside a small group of academics who have studied this. And the history goes back, as I said, to World War I, as do so many of the pathologies that are today bringing our society, and indeed our culture, down. Marxist theory said that when the general European war came (as it did come in Europe in 1914), the working class throughout Europe would rise up and overthrow their governments – the bourgeois governments – because the workers had more in common with each other across the national boundaries than they had in common with the bourgeoisie and the ruling class in their own country. Well, 1914 came and it didn’t happen. Throughout Europe, workers rallied to their flag and happily marched off to fight each other. The Kaiser shook hands with the leaders of the Marxist Social Democratic Party in Germany and said there are no parties now, there are only Germans. And this happened in every country in Europe. So something was wrong. Marxists knew by definition it couldn’t be the theory. In 1917, they finally got a Marxist coup in Russia and it looked like the theory was working, but it stalled again. It didn’t spread and when attempts were made to spread immediately after the war, with the Spartacist uprising in Berlin, with the Bela Kun government in Hungary, with the Munich Soviet, the workers didn’t support them. So the Marxists’ had a problem. And two Marxist theorists went to work on it: Antonio Gramsci in Italy and Georg Lukacs in Hungary. Gramsci said the workers will never see their true class interests, as defined by Marxism, until they are freed from Western culture, and particularly from the Christian religion – that they are blinded by culture and religion to their true class interests. Lukacs, who was considered the most brilliant Marxist theorist since Marx himself, said in 1919, "Who will save us from Western Civilization?" He also theorized that the great obstacle to the creation of a Marxist paradise was the culture: Western civilization itself. Lukacs gets a chance to put his ideas into practice, because when the home grown Bolshevik Bela Kun government is established in Hungary in 1919, he becomes deputy commissar for culture, and the first thing he did was introduce sex education into the Hungarian schools. This ensured that the workers would not support the Bela Kun government, because the Hungarian people looked at this aghast, workers as well as everyone else. But he had already made the connection that today many of us are still surprised by, that we would consider the "latest thing." In 1923 in Germany, a think-tank is established that takes on the role of translating Marxism from economic into cultural terms, that creates Political Correctness as we know it today, and essentially it has created the basis for it by the end of the 1930s. This comes about because the very wealthy young son of a millionaire German trader by the name of Felix Weil has become a Marxist and has lots of money to spend. He is disturbed by the divisions among the Marxists, so he sponsors something called the First Marxist Work Week, where he brings Lukacs and many of the key German thinkers together for a week, working on the differences of Marxism. And he says, "What we need is a think-tank." Washington is full of think tanks and we think of them as very modern. In fact they go back quite a ways. He endows an institute, associated with Frankfurt University, established in 1923, that was originally supposed to be known as the Institute for Marxism. But the people behind it decided at the beginning that it was not to their advantage to be openly identified as Marxist. The last thing Political Correctness wants is for people to figure out it’s a form of Marxism. So instead they decide to name it the Institute for Social Research. Weil is very clear about his goals. In 1971, he wrote to Martin Jay the author of a principle book on the Frankfurt School, as the Institute for Social Research soon becomes known informally, and he said, "I wanted the institute to become known, perhaps famous, due to its contributions to Marxism." Well, he was successful. The first director of the Institute, Carl Grunberg, an Austrian economist, concluded his opening address, according to Martin Jay, "by clearly stating his personal allegiance to Marxism as a scientific methodology." Marxism, he said, would be the ruling principle at the Institute, and that never changed. The initial work at the Institute was rather conventional, but in 1930 it acquired a new director named Max Horkheimer, and Horkheimer’s views were very different. He was very much a Marxist renegade. The people who create and form the Frankfurt School are renegade Marxists. They’re still very much Marxist in their thinking, but they’re effectively run out of the party. Moscow looks at what they are doing and says, "Hey, this isn’t us, and we’re not going to bless this." Horkheimer’s initial heresy is that he is very interested in Freud, and the key to making the translation of Marxism from economic into cultural terms is essentially that he combined it with Freudism. Again, Martin Jay writes, "If it can be said that in the early years of its history, the Institute concerned itself primarily with an analysis of bourgeois society’s socio-economic sub-structure," – and I point out that Jay is very sympathetic to the Frankfurt School, I’m not reading from a critic here – "in the years after 1930 its primary interests lay in its cultural superstructure. Indeed the traditional Marxist formula regarding the relationship between the two was brought into question by Critical Theory." The stuff we’ve been hearing about this morning – the radical feminism, the women’s studies departments, the gay studies departments, the black studies departments – all these things are branches of Critical Theory. What the Frankfurt School essentially does is draw on both Marx and Freud in the 1930s to create this theory called Critical Theory. The term is ingenious because you’re tempted to ask, "What is the theory?" The theory is to criticize. The theory is that the way to bring down Western culture and the capitalist order is not to lay down an alternative. They explicitly refuse to do that. They say it can’t be done, that we can’t imagine what a free society would look like (their definition of a free society). As long as we’re living under repression – the repression of a capitalistic economic order which creates (in their theory) the Freudian condition, the conditions that Freud describes in individuals of repression – we can’t even imagine it. What Critical Theory is about is simply criticizing. It calls for the most destructive criticism possible, in every possible way, designed to bring the current order down. And, of course, when we hear from the feminists that the whole of society is just out to get women and so on, that kind of criticism is a derivative of Critical Theory. It is all coming from the 1930s, not the 1960s. Other key members who join up around this time are Theodore Adorno, and, most importantly, Erich Fromm and Herbert Marcuse. Fromm and Marcuse introduce an element which is central to Political Correctness, and that’s the sexual element. And particularly Marcuse, who in his own writings calls for a society of "polymorphous perversity," that is his definition of the future of the world that they want to create. Marcuse in particular by the 1930s is writing some very extreme stuff on the need for sexual liberation, but this runs through the whole Institute. So do most of the themes we see in Political Correctness, again in the early 30s. In Fromm’s view, masculinity and femininity were not reflections of ‘essential’ sexual differences, as the Romantics had thought. They were derived instead from differences in life functions, which were in part socially determined." Sex is a construct; sexual differences are a construct. Another example is the emphasis we now see on environmentalism. "Materialism as far back as Hobbes had led to a manipulative dominating attitude toward nature." That was Horkhemier writing in 1933 in Materialismus und Moral. "The theme of man’s domination of nature," according to Jay, " was to become a central concern of the Frankfurt School in subsequent years." "Horkheimer’s antagonism to the fetishization of labor, (here’s were they’re obviously departing from Marxist orthodoxy) expressed another dimension of his materialism, the demand for human, sensual happiness." In one of his most trenchant essays, Egoism and the Movement for Emancipation, written in 1936, Horkeimer "discussed the hostility to personal gratification inherent in bourgeois culture." And he specifically referred to the Marquis de Sade, favorably, for his "protest…against asceticism in the name of a higher morality." How does all of this stuff flood in here? How does it flood into our universities, and indeed into our lives today? The members of the Frankfurt School are Marxist, they are also, to a man, Jewish. In 1933 the Nazis came to power in Germany, and not surprisingly they shut down the Institute for Social Research. And its members fled. They fled to New York City, and the Institute was reestablished there in 1933 with help from Columbia University. And the members of the Institute, gradually through the 1930s, though many of them remained writing in German, shift their focus from Critical Theory about German society, destructive criticism about every aspect of that society, to Critical Theory directed toward American society. There is another very important transition when the war comes. Some of them go to work for the government, including Herbert Marcuse, who became a key figure in the OSS (the predecessor to the CIA), and some, including Horkheimer and Adorno, move to Hollywood. These origins of Political Correctness would probably not mean too much to us today except for two subsequent events. The first was the student rebellion in the mid-1960s, which was driven largely by resistance to the draft and the Vietnam War. But the student rebels needed theory of some sort. They couldn’t just get out there and say, "Hell no we won’t go," they had to have some theoretical explanation behind it. Very few of them were interested in wading through Das Kapital. Classical, economic Marxism is not light, and most of the radicals of the 60s were not deep. Fortunately for them, and unfortunately for our country today, and not just in the university, Herbert Marcuse remained in America when the Frankfurt School relocated back to Frankfurt after the war. And whereas Mr. Adorno in Germany is appalled by the student rebellion when it breaks out there – when the student rebels come into Adorno’s classroom, he calls the police and has them arrested – Herbert Marcuse, who remained here, saw the 60s student rebellion as the great chance. He saw the opportunity to take the work of the Frankfurt School and make it the theory of the New Left in the United States. One of Marcuse’s books was the key book. It virtually became the bible of the SDS and the student rebels of the 60s. That book was Eros and Civilization. Marcuse argues that under a capitalistic order (he downplays the Marxism very strongly here, it is subtitled, A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud, but the framework is Marxist), repression is the essence of that order and that gives us the person Freud describes – the person with all the hang-ups, the neuroses, because his sexual instincts are repressed. We can envision a future, if we can only destroy this existing oppressive order, in which we liberate eros, we liberate libido, in which we have a world of "polymorphous perversity," in which you can "do you own thing." And by the way, in that world there will no longer be work, only play. What a wonderful message for the radicals of the mid-60s! They’re students, they’re baby-boomers, and they’ve grown up never having to worry about anything except eventually having to get a job. And here is a guy writing in a way they can easily follow. He doesn’t require them to read a lot of heavy Marxism and tells them everything they want to hear which is essentially, "Do your own thing," "If it feels good do it," and "You never have to go to work." By the way, Marcuse is also the man who creates the phrase, "Make love, not war." Coming back to the situation people face on campus, Marcuse defines "liberating tolerance" as intolerance for anything coming from the Right and tolerance for anything coming from the Left. Marcuse joined the Frankfurt School, in 1932 (if I remember right). So, all of this goes back to the 1930s. In conclusion, America today is in the throws of the greatest and direst transformation in its history. We are becoming an ideological state, a country with an official state ideology enforced by the power of the state. In "hate crimes" we now have people serving jail sentences for political thoughts. And the Congress is now moving to expand that category ever further. Affirmative action is part of it. The terror against anyone who dissents from Political Correctness on campus is part of it. It’s exactly what we have seen happen in Russia, in Germany, in Italy, in China, and now it’s coming here. And we don’t recognize it because we call it Political Correctness and laugh it off. My message today is that it’s not funny, it’s here, it’s growing and it will eventually destroy, as it seeks to destroy, everything that we have ever defined as our freedom and our culture.
#78. To: robnoel, swarthguy (#77)
My point exactly.. it's Marxism at work.. the entire article is excellent but these points point to what I was referring to: "In particular, they reveal that the West has fallen in love with the myth of revolution. If Chairman Mao once said that "Marxism consists of a thousand truths but they all boil down to one sentence: ‘It is right to rebel’," that sentiment now forms a central tenet of Western political orthodoxy. One of the key catchphrases of George Bush’s presidency has been the eminently Trotskyite concept of world revolution: on 6th November 2003, the American president specifically said that, "The establishment of a free Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution." In his second inaugural speech, on 20th January, Bush announced nothing less than a programme of political emancipation for the whole planet – he said that America was pursuing "the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world." ...... "The original Marxist plan was for the socialist revolution to engulf the whole planet, and this plan was embraced by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. It famously came up against the buffers of Stalin’s alternative proposal to build socialism in one country first. In exile, Trotsky kept the idea of world revolution going by setting up the Fourth International in 1938. Within two years, Irving Kristol – the man who was later to be the founding father of the neo-conservatism movement which so dominates the Bush administration – joined it. Kristol’s own influence has been immense and his son, William, is now one of America’s most influential neo-cons. But Irving Kristol never renounced or condemned his Trotskyite past: in 1983, he wrote that he was still proud of it."........ ""At least one passionate ex-Marxist supporter of Bush has told me, only half in jest: ‘After all, this is the only chance of supporting world revolution that looks like coming my way.’ " If such comparisons seem outlandish, it is precisely because we in the West have failed to grasp the true nature of Marxism-Leninism. We think of Communism as being all about state ownership of the means of production and central planning: in fact, Karl Marx advocated neither. Instead, according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the "soul of Marxism" lies in something called dialectical materialism. Derived from Hegel and ultimately Heraclitus, this doctrine holds that the world is in a constant state of flux, that nothing is absolutely true or false, and that everything is connected to everything else. Permanent revolution is consequently the natural state of reality, and hence of politics. Because flux is the natural state, Marx, Engels and Lenin all reasoned that all fixed forms of political association, i.e. the state, were oppressive, and that men would not be free until the state itself had "withered away." How was this withering away of the state to occur? For Marx and Engels the answer was clear: world capitalism would do the trick. "...
#79. To: robnoel (#77)
Ah, you don't get my argument because you're too stupid. Simply a mirror image of the Bot mindset. Reality be damned, ideology/theology/fantasy rules. Yes, SA Apartheid was "stabbed in the back" because of those damned Marxists. Never ever question the sordid reality of that regime. Guess you're too far gone in your phantasmogorical delusions that you can't even understand what I've been trying to say. South Africa as Jerusalem, Oye Vey!
Like I said you don't get it and never will you are lost in your own little misguided world...you suffer from buying into the "cultural Marxism"argument...if you seek help you may overcome it...here is your first class
#80. To: swarthyguy (#79)
You flunked your first class...you should take a trip to Africa sometime...you may even come back alive A few stories I bet you never read...needless to say I guess you think this is OK after all they were only those nasty apartheid people Man survives Execution shot to head Johannesburg - A badly wounded man had to stumble for more than a kilometre and crawl through an electric fence to escape from a gang of armed robbers who hit his Honeydew smallholding on the West Rand. Marieta Hansen, 32, said her brother, Michael, 33, was "lucky to be alive" after he had been shot "execution-style" in the head. Hansen also was shot in the right thigh and repeatedly hit on the head with an iron pipe. "The first thing he told me when I saw him was 'I thought I was going to die'. He said it felt as if his eyes were popping out of his head when he was shot," said Marieta. Hansen, who runs his own transport company from the smallholding, was overpowered by two armed men about 10:00. Two others held up his girlfriend at their house about 150m away. "He was ordered to lie on his stomach, but refused and struggled with one of the robbers. Will to live blunted the pain "The robber's accomplice held a gun to my brother's cheek and just pulled the trigger," said Marieta. The bleeding man managed to reach neighbours about a kilometre away. Marieta said: "He didn't know two men were holding his girlfriend in the house, so he ran and crawled underneath his electric fence to get help. "He later said his will to live helped him not to feel the electric shock or the pain." Marieta said her brother's girlfriend, Jenny Saunders, was overpowered inside the house while she was making up the wages. "The men wanted money, but when she wanted to unlock the cupboard, they blindly opened fire on her. Fortunately, they missed." The gang left on foot with about R11 000, and Jenny ran outside to look for Michael. Faces reconstructive surgery "She saw a pool of blood and phoned me to tell me that my brother was gone," said Marieta. Michael, who is still recovering in Olivedale Clinic in Johannesburg, had to undergo reconstructive surgery. Marieta said: "The surgeon said his face looked like a bowl of Rice Krispies. We were hysterical and it's a miracle Michael is alive." Captain Joseph Mogoai said no arrests had been made yet. http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1910235,00.html Cop concern at new cash-in-transit-heist trend Johannesburg police have expressed concern that criminals may be using a new modus operandi when attempting to rob cash-in-transit vehicles. Speaking to Eyewitness News, police said that it appears robbers are targeting security guards as they drop off or pick up money from retail stores. The robbers follow the guards inside the shop and then attempt to rob them at gunpoint, while accomplices keep watch outside. Police confirmed that there was one such robbery yesterday, in Wynburg, northern Johannesburg. URL: http://iafrica.com/news/sa/175271.htm Gunmen attack Police station & kill 3 people A massive manhunt has been launched for an armed gang who raided the Mqanduli Police Station in the Transkei region of the Eastern Cape, killing three people including an off-duty policeman. The SABC reported on Thursday morning that the gunmen made off with weapons, ammunition and bullet proof vests. The other two victims were identified as a bank security guard and a truck driver, who was sleeping outside. A police vehicle responding to the incident was fired on on the road to Mthatha. The broadcaster said it was believed the gang may also have been involved in the killing of a Somali national who runs a spaza shop outside Mthatha. URL: http://iafrica.com/news/sa/179409.htm Man, woman seriously injured in farm attack A 75-year-old man and a woman suffered serious head injuries in an attack on their Bloemspruit smallholding, outside Bloemfontein, police said on Wednesday. Free State spokesperson Captain Elsa Gerber said it appeared Willem Jacobs, 75, and Gwenolene Jacobs, 56, were tortured with a hammer and a brick for an uncertain period of time before 9am on Wednesday. "Both were taken to the Pelonomi Hospital with serious head injuries and police have been unable to talk to them." Gwenolene Jacobs is the widow of Willem Jacobs' late brother. Police also found the bodies of four dogs on the property at Stasie Street, Martindale. "It looks as if they were poisoned," Gerber said. Police suspect that after the dogs were poisoned four men cut a hole in the wire fence surrounding the homestead and waited for two people to appear from the house. Gerber said apparently Jacobs opened the back door to see to his dogs when the attackers overpowered him and forced him back into the house. She said the woman eventually managed to phone her son at work at about 9am on Wednesday who in turn phoned the police. Police said the attackers took off with the woman's 1995 red Ford Lazer, registration number BHC105FS, and a revolver. - Sapa
#81. To: robnoel (#80)
Rob are there any farmers left in Africa?? I used to follow Cathy Buckles reports.. also there is a site that reported the murders and farm attacks but I've lost the link.. horrible stuff really.. One site was a Boer site.. sad situation ..of course its never reported..
#82. To: Zipporah (#81)
Hi...Not many left...heres a link http://www.africancrisis.org/Video.asp?Subject=FM
#83. To: robnoel (#82)
Thanks.. that was one of the sites.. I had the other bookmarked.. sad stuff Rob..
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