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Title: Recent Antifa Rampaging Enabled by Conservatives' Stupidity, Cowardice After Charlottesville
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URL Source: https://russia-insider.com/en/recen ... -after-charlottesville/ri30692
Published: Jun 18, 2020
Author: Charlottesville Survivor
Post Date: 2020-06-18 09:58:55 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 2839
Comments: 33

The Floyd Hoax riots erupting across the U.S., including in Atlanta tonight, are a direct result of the American Conservative Movement™’s stupidity and cowardice after the 2017 Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville VA. In that case, Democrat state and local officials not only failed to prevent the Antifa attack on peaceful protestors (who really were peaceful protestors, unlike Main Stream Media-coddled Floyd Hoax rioters) but actively facilitated it. However, no-one was punished and Conservatism Inc. cheered on the persecution of patriot activists in the aftermath. Now far more people have died than the one (probably accidental) fatality at Charlottesville, and a full-scale Maoist-style Cultural Revolutionis rolling across the country. Yet Conservatism Inc. is still sounding retreat. What’s left of the Historic American Nation will have to look elsewhere for its defenders.

I know what happened at Charlottesville because I was there. But, regardless of your politics, no one can look to Charlottesville as an example of how to manage a protest. An independent report, ordered by the city itself, found that then-Charlottesville Police Department Chief Al Thomas, who is black, ordered his officers to “let them [demonstrators] fight” because it would make it “easier to declare an unlawful assembly.”

I find the current “Defund The Police” movement pushed by Leftists particularly ironic because, had there been no police in Charlottesville that day, everyone would have been safer. Patriot demonstrators had created a stable perimeter around the park and were blocking Leftist attacks and flying projectiles with shields. Things only spiraled out of control when the police, who had actually been cheered by the patriot demonstrators who assumed they were coming to secure freedom of speech, launched tear gas and literally drove them into the ranks of Antifa, sparking a wild street brawl. These facts are now not disputed by anyone, Left or Right, although (thanks to the Lying Press) they took time to emerge [Independent Review of the 2017 Protest Events In Charlottesville, Virginia, Hunton & Williams].

However, far from being held responsible, then-Mayor Michael Singer and then-Governor Terry McAuliffe are dining out on their malfeasance. Singer is giving interviews on public radio promoting his new book [In ‘Cry Havoc,’ Former Charlottesville Mayor Details A Tragic Day, by Michel Martin, OPB, June 6, 2020]. McAuliffe has his own book out, Beyond Charlottesville: Taking A Stand Against White Nationalism.

One would think that the Trump Justice Department would have investigated whether the city and Commonwealth’s political leaders made decisions that contributed to injuries and deaths for demonstrators, counter-demonstrators, and spectators. But it has done nothing of the kind. Instead, astonishingly, it worked directly with Antifa to persecute members of the Rise Above Movement, a group that fought back against Antifa.

Even worse, a New York State court sentenced members of the Proud Boys to four years in prison for defending themselves against Antifa in New York City in a fight that lasted just a few seconds. Antifa members refused to work with the police in any way, so there were no “victims” demanding justice. Nonetheless, defying all Leftist political theory I’ve ever read, the forces of statist repression swiftly moved to defend the anarchists against their nationalist foes. Conservatism Inc. cheered this on, with Rich Lowry condemning the “poisonous allure of right-wing violence,” instead telling the movement to rely on “patriotic suburban dads” who will sit at home and watch television. [The Poisonous Allure of Right-Wing Violence , by Rich Lowry, Politico, October 17, 2018]

Republicans who think conservatism is consumerism must now grapple with the fact that almost every major company in America is providing funding to far-Left activists. “Patriotic suburban dads” are now having to conduct armed patrols of their own neighborhoods lest their property be destroyed.

The same journalists and politicians who want to defund the police and praise “peaceful protests” as buildings burn in the background are suddenly worried about “vigilantes.”

[Protesters met with armed onlookers following demonstration in Crown Point, by Andy Koval, WGN9, June 3, 2020] [Rightwing vigilantes on armed patrol after fake rumors of antifa threat, by Jason Wilson, The Guardian, June 6, 2020] [Mayor Kenney condemns group of people ‘protecting’ Christopher Columbus statue in South Philly, by Pat Ralph, Philly Voice, June 14, 2020]

Well, if you get rid of the police, what do you think will happen?

There have been a few times over the past few years when various conservatives made noise about investigating antifa. Ted Cruz called for a federal criminal investigation after Andy Ngo was attacked in Portland. Newsmax said the Department of Justice was going to go after Antifa last August (no follow-up).

Most recently, President Donald Trump said he would declare “Antifa” a terrorist organization [President Trump says US will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, KOCO5, May 31, 2020].

It’s unclear whether Trump can actually do this, because the U.S. has no “domestic terrorism” law. Of course, until about a month ago, journalists and nonprofits were demanding the government create one so they could arrest people with the wrong political views [White-Supremacist Violence Is Terrorism, by John Allen, The Atlantic, February 24, 2020]. Just as public protests went from “deadly” to “necessary” when the Narrative switched from COVID-19 to Black Lives Matter, I expect the MSM will go back to supporting a domestic terrorism law when they are confident it won’t be used against their Antifa comrades.

But such a law isn’t really needed to go after Antifa. Federal officers and soldiers kneeling doesn’t quite capture the full-scale refusal of the government to defend its own personnel. Consider:

In July 2019, a member of an armed Leftist militia (Willem van Spronsen, right) attacked an ICE facility and blew up a vehicle before getting himself shot. That same month, an ICE facility was stormed by a mob, the American flag was lowered, and the Mexican flag was raised over the facility in triumph [Watch: Protesters at ICE facility in Aurora pull down American flag and raise Mexican flag, by Jeff Bailey, Denver Post, July 12, 2019] In summer 2019, several ICE facilities were shot at, as Leftists openly offeredmoney to kill ICE agents on Twitter.

Simply enforcing existing law would be enough (as with illegal immigration). Yet President Trump is again showing weakness.

The War Between The States began with a Southern attack on Federal property, at Fort Sumter. The anti-Trump cuckservative group The Lincoln Project attacks the president for not being like The Great Emancipator. Well, Old Abe would have called up 75,000 men by now.

The American government is apparently indifferent to destruction of its property, desecration of its symbols, and humiliation of its personnel. So why should American patriots rally to defend it when it has abandoned the Historic American Nation?

More than anything else, that nation needs leadership. But Conservatism Inc. is still sounding retreat. From just the last few days at National Review:

The Confederate-Monument Controversy Is a Democrat-vs-Democrat Question, by Kevin Williamson, June 14, 2020 The Un-American Confederacy, by Cameron Hilditch, June 12, 2020 American Begins to See More Clearly Now What Its Black Citizens Always Knew, by Theodore Johnson, June 11, 2020 The Problem with Police Is Police Unions, by Will Swaim and David Bahnsen, June 4, 2020

At this point it’s simply insane for Cuckservative Review to maintain this uproar is about police brutality, Confederate statues, or whether “Democrats are the real racists.” This Floyd Hoax movement is against white people, full stop. That’s why it’s so swiftly progressed from Confederate generals, to the Founding Fathers, to Winston Churchill, to Gandhi, to (significantly) the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier of the American Revolution. [Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier Of The American Revolution Vandalized In Philadelphia’s Washington Square, CBS3 Philadelphia, June 12, 2020]

Yet Conservatism Inc. still can’t summon up the willpower to do anything but surrender—including by destroying one of the few institutions (police unions) that haven’t been entirely co-opted by the left.

“True conservatives” like the appalling Mitt Romney are marching along with the Floyd Hoax movement, apparently oblivious that his own church will soon become a target.

When there was a movement that could effectively oppose what’s happening, even in the streets—the Alt Right—Conservatism Inc. cheered as it became a victim of government repression, thus making current events inevitable.

It’s more than ever clear that the Beltway Right’s purpose is to lose. Worse than that, it’s to prevent nationalists from winning. From the Inauguration on, we’ve been telling Conservatism Inc. what was coming, and they ignored us. One cannot exaggerate their contempt for their own voters.

But perhaps that contempt is justified, given grassroots conservatives’ continued support for elected officials who hate and want to replace them. And unfortunately, because of MSM opposition, creating a viable Third Party may be practically impossible. Many feel, not without reason, that they have no choice but to hold their nose and vote Republican.

Still, after more than a half century of failure, a different approach is needed. Perhaps it’s time what remains of the Historic American Nation to start building an “autonomous zone” of its own.

Of course, once that starts happening, I suspect the timid, knee-taking forces of the state will once again feel free to deploy the iron fist.

It happened to us in Charlottesville. And the Beltway Right cheered.

Now that the anarchy is coming for it too, it’s trying to cut a separate peace. It won’t be successful.

There are answers to the current crisis. But they won’t come from the GOP, Conservatism Inc., or, alas—unless something changes—from the administration of President Donald J. Trump.

Charlottesville Survivor [Email him] is a white man who voted for Trump. The Left hates all white men who voted for Trump, whether they were in Charlottesville or not.

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#1. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

It's clear that the Trump Administration has been walking on eggshells in an attempt to restore sensibility without furthering the crisis at hand.

Separating protests from riots and looting is the hard part since the troublemakers takeover the protests and destroy or steal property that often times even belongs to black store owners.

This article is an attempt to once again smear Trump which has become what Ada posts pretty consistently.

Maybe I should add that I think the rush to judgment by BLM and ANTIFA as well as the protesters is a detail that must be addressed seriously. Even though the video of the George Floyd killing was pretty clear the system has to be given an opportunity to work. I think due process is required and should be observed by everyone. If due process fails in the eyes of either the police or the arrestee then it needs to be automatically reviewed/appealed without expense to either party.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-18   10:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

However, far from being held responsible, then-Mayor Michael Singer and then-Governor Terry McAuliffe are dining out on their malfeasance. Singer is giving interviews on public radio promoting his new book [In ‘Cry Havoc,’ Former Charlottesville Mayor Details A Tragic Day, by Michel Martin, OPB, June 6, 2020]. McAuliffe has his own book out, Beyond Charlottesville: Taking A Stand Against White Nationalism.

**gag**

joos by any other name...

Alt-Right Leader Richard Spencer Confirmed As Democrat Plant

October 21, 2017

Richard Spencer, leader of the alt-right movement, confirmed to be a Democrat plant

Alt-Right leader Richard Spencer has been confirmed as a Democrat plant who has been tasked by his masters to stir up racial hatred in America and help usher in totalitarian new laws. ...

https://newspunch.com/alt-right-richard-spencer-democrat/

EXCLUSIVE REPORT: Richard Spencer Confirmed as Deep State Plant

By Assistant Editor

Published October 22, 2017

Richard Spencer Confirmed as Deep State Plant

Spencer Kept Database, Photos of Alt-Right Members at Charlottesville

Media darling and Alt-Right leader Richard Spencer ran his own Discord chat server, where he required that Alt-Right members submit photographs and detailed personal information about themselves, before they were allowed to join the group planning the Charlottesville attacks.

We have already exposed how Spencer’s close friend and fellow Charlottesville rally organizer Jason Kessler watched while the terrorist attacks were planned on his personal Discord server.

On October 8th, revealed that Richard Spencer employed his close friend, and suspected pedophile, “TheBigKK” to gather data and require photographs of everyone connected to the Charlottesville rally on August 12th. Spencer required these measures to be taken in order to extract EXIF geotagging data from the images, so that he could obtain the home addresses of his recruits.

Spencer’s Former Friends in the Alt-Right are Exposing Him

Later, on October 18th, Richard Spencer staged forward-facing cameras pointed directly at the 12 or so followers that he had sit in a carefully prearranged spot at his heckled, failed speech at the University of Florida. Alt-Right members were required to provide Spencer with detailed information about themselves in order to attend his event.

Spencer and Enoch Were Careful to Not Block Their Cameras

Although the failed speech has been widely lambasted and ridiculed by both the left and the right, the event served Spencer’s purposes, which was to gather intelligence on the Alt-Right, and incite some of their dupes into some acts of violence. He was successful on both counts.

Right on cue, Spencer family friend George W Bush came out of nowhere and condemned the Alt-Right, nationalism and Trump in the same speech, coincidentally on the exact morning of the day of Spencer’s speech.

Richard Spencer is an admitted atheist and socialist, who hates America, hates Christians and the Constitution, and thinks that Trump supporters are “cucks”.

Richard Spencer is not a conservative. He has praised Bolshevism, and has called himself the “Karl Marx of the alt-right”. His mentor is a confused, retired academic, named Paul Gottfried. Gottfried says that the United States is no longer a republic, and is Nietzschean social Darwinist, who is a disciple of Marcuse and has been described as a “right-wing proponent of the Frankfurt school.”...

The robotic talking points that Spencer reads off in mainstream media interviews come from his boss, William Regnery II, founder of the National Policy Institute. While college drop-out Richard Spencer pretends to “run” NPI from the basement of his mother’s 3 million dollar condo in Whitefish, Montana, it is really Regnery who is calling the shots.

According to Spencer himself, Regnery has played a “vitally important and indispensable” role in bolstering the alt-right movement and that he “wouldn’t do a big thing without consulting him.”

William Regnery’s father, Henry, was the founder of the American Security Council, which is riddled with CIA agents, and it’s spin-off, the Center for Security Policy, is headed by Dick Cheney, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative warmongers who pushed George W Bush into the Iraq war....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/exclusive-report-richard-spencer-confirmed-deep-state-plant/

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https://altrightexposedblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/jason-kessler-admits-to-being-a-leftist-provocateur/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-06-18   16:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

This article is an attempt to once again smear Trump which has become what Ada posts pretty consistently.

"ADA" is a Jew clearing house for anything published by their "boiler room" hack writers that is anti white American.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-06-18   17:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom, neoconsnailed (#3)

"ADA" is a Jew clearing house for anything published by their "boiler room" hack writers that is anti white American.

Didn't we once have a poster known as "the hook-nosed Jew"?

Ada  posted on  2020-06-18   17:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)

This article is an attempt to once again smear Trump which has become what Ada posts pretty consistently.

Surely you have noticed the alt right has been disappointed in Trump.

Ada  posted on  2020-06-18   17:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#1) (Edited)

Even though the video of the George Floyd killing was pretty clear

I thought it was at first...now I am not so sure.

Forensic Anlysis: George Floyd Died of a Fentanyl Overdose, not Police Brutality

https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=208904

I highly recommend it.

Floyd appeared to stumble and stagger as police removed him from the vehicle in one of the videos here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-06-08-george-floyd-death-faked-crisis-actors-psyop.html

[I'm not sure I agree with some of the conclusions here, but it was interesting to see what went down from different viewpoints].

"...let us stick to the evidence. The county’s ambivalent autopsy also included the following hard facts: “Toxicology Findings: Blood samples collected at 9:00 p.m. on May 25th, before Floyd died, tested positive for the following: Fentanyl 11 ng/mL, Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL, … Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL … 86 ng/mL of morphine,” but draws no conclusions therefrom, noting only that “Quantities are given for those who are medically inclined.”

Shouldn’t we be so inclined? This fentanyl concentration, including its norfentanyl metabolite at its molecular weight, was 20.6 ng/mL That is over three times the lethal overdose, following earlier reports where the highest dose survived was 4.6 ng/mL.[2]

If ever there was a leap before a look, we are in it now. Masses of people have become extremists, screaming to tear down civilization, based on conclusions that are as false as they are hasty. Regarding suffocation, the county medical examiner’s report found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”[3] However, pressure applied to the side of the neck, as in this case, and not to the throat, has little or no effect on breathing. One can easily verify this oneself.[4]

Excited Delirium Syndrome

An alternative hypothesis involves Excited Delirium Syndrome (EXD), a symptom of drug overdose which sometimes appears in the final minutes preceding death. EXD typically results from fatal drug abuse, in past years from cocaine or crack, more recently from fentanyl, which is 50 times more potent than heroin. Especially dangerous are street drugs like meth laced with fentanyl.

According to an article in the Western Journal of Emergency Medicine (WJEM), 2011:[5] “Excited delirium (EXD) is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs. Subjects typically die from cardiopulmonary arrest… all accounts describe almost the exact same sequence of events: delirium with agitation (fear, panic, shouting, violence and hyperactivity), sudden cessation of struggle, respiratory arrest and death.”

It appears that an EXD episode began when the officers tried to get Floyd into the squad car. He resisted, citing “claustrophobia” — the onset of the fear and panic phase, and “I can’t breathe” — difficulty breathing due to fentanyl locking into the breathing receptors in the brain. (Classic symptoms of EXD are highlighted in bold.) He then exhibited unexpected strength from the adrenaline spike in successfully resisting the efforts of four officers to get him into the car. When Chauvin pulled him out of the car he fell to the ground, likely due to disorientation and reduced coordination. Presumably this was when he injured his mouth and his nose started to bleed, and the police made the first call for paramedics. While restrained on the ground he exhibited agitation (shouting and hyperactivity (trying to move back and forth) for several minutes. This was soon followed “sudden cessation of struggle, respiratory arrest and death.” One hears Floyd shouting loudly as in the agitated delirium phase in this video[6]. In a later video, he becomes exhausted, and had stopped breathing as the ambulance arrived.[7]

It appears that disorientation had already set in when the store employees went to Floyd’s car and asked him to return the cigarettes he had bought for a fake $20 bill. He refused, and they reported the incident to the police, saying that he appeared to be very intoxicated. He certainly must have been, or he would have left quickly to avoid arrest. Police Intervention and Intentions

The EXD diagnosis is controversial and in some quarters is viewed as an alibi for police brutality. The WJEM authors note, “Since the victims frequently die while being restrained or in the custody of law enforcement, there has been speculation over the years of police brutality being the underlying cause. However, it is important to note that the vast majority of deaths occur suddenly prior to capture, in the emergency department (ED), or unwitnessed at home.”

Regarding restraint, they note, “people experiencing EXD are highly agitated, violent, and show signs of unexpected strength, so it is not surprising that most require physical restraint. The prone maximal restraint position (PMRP, also known as “hobble” or “hogtie”), where the person’s ankles and wrists are bound together behind their back, has been used extensively by field personnel. In far fewer cases, persons have been tied to a hospital gurney or manually held prone with knee pressure on the back or neck.”

This latter position is what the accused officer Chauvin was applying, although at one point the team did consider using a hobble. It has been proposed that restraint helps to forestall injury and death by conserving the subject’s energy. There are also views that restraint increases the likelihood of a fatal outcome.

The charge sheet against Chauvin included this exchange between the two white officers on the squad:[8] “”I am worried about excited delirium or whatever,” Lane said. “That’s why we have him on his stomach,” Chauvin said.”

According to this dialogue, Chauvin was apparently was trying to follow the protocol recommended by WJEM. Since Floyd was on his stomach, Chauvin’s knee pinned him at the side of his neck, and did not impede breathing. Commentators are referring to Chauvin “kneeling” on Floyd’s neck, or resting his weight on it. From videos it is hard to gauge how much weight he applied, but the correct procedure is just enough to restrain movement, not to crush the person.

Chauvin and his team might not have done everything perfectly, but it is easy to underestimate the difficulty of police work, particularly in cases of resisting arrest, whether willfully or due to intoxication.

The American College of Emergency Physicians’ White Paper Report on Excited Delirium Syndrome (ACEP, 2009)[9] notes that “a law enforcement officer (LEO) is often present with a person suffering from ExDS because the situation at hand has degenerated to such a degree that someone has deemed it necessary to contact a person of authority to deal with it. LEOs are in the difficult and sometimes impossible position of having to recognize this as a medical emergency, attempting to control an irrational and physically resistive person, … This already challenging situation has the potential for intense public scrutiny coupled with the expectation of a perfect outcome. Anything less creates a situation of potential public outrage. Unfortunately, this dangerous medical situation makes perfect outcomes difficult.” In other words, officers need to be policemen, paramedics and public relations experts all at once.

With a fatal overdose there is no good outcome possible, but there is no way for police to foresee that. Sometimes EXD can last longer, and it is not always fatal. Perhaps the ACEP Task Force on EXD will update their report and provide guidelines to help police identify and deal with EXD while avoiding accusations of police brutality.

In this video[10] Chauvin continued to apply the neck restraint although bystanders repeatedly objected, and even after Floyd stopped moving. As Floyd became exhausted, it could have been reasonable to relax the restraint to see if it was really necessary. Chauvin didn’t seem to respond to the bystanders to give a medical reason for the restraint. His actions were consistent with a belief that police should restrain the subject until medevacs arrive. Videos show the police focused on restraint, never beating or striking Floyd. The restraint and verbal exchanges with Floyd are also consistent with a belief that he was resisting arrest, by refusing to get in the squad car. When he said “I can’t breathe,” they responded “You’re talking fine.” When they said “Get in the car,” he didn’t agree to.

Subjects suffering from EXD usually resist arrest violently, which requires police to restrain them, but when police see signs of EXD, they also need to call an ambulance. It appears the police may have called for paramedics first when Floyd developed a nosebleed, then for an ambulance, which arrived after Floyd had stopped breathing.[11] .

Videos of EXD incidents generally show subjects violently resisting arrest, and requiring multiple officers to subdue them. There is one video clip about a police departments that was trained to regard EXD as a medical and not a criminal issue, and avoid physical restraint as far as possible; the results are much better.[12]

EXD seems to be the most likely reason why Floyd suddenly refused to get into the squad car, and began to shout and writhe on the ground. With or without EXD or police intervention, he was doomed to die quickly, even if an antidote had been immediately available.

Fentanyl is so deadly because it acts so fast and binds so tightly to dopamine receptors in the brain — even those that control breathing, unlike other narcotics.[13] When Floyd complained “I can’t breathe,” although he was breathing,[14] and then completely stopped breathing, this was the onset of respiratory arrest, which is how a fentanyl overdose kills.

While police work is needed to trace the source of these dangerous drugs, the problems of drug addiction and crime have deep causes and can only be contained, not solved, by the police. Whatever our society has been doing about these problems is not working.

Right now, our civilization risks being torn apart by the passions of extremism, due to a misunderstanding. Please share this analysis, as an appeal to return to reason.

End of Part I..."

https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=208904

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-06-18   17:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom, Ada (#3)

What does it stand for?

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-18   21:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada. All (#4)

I believe there was one who funly called me that. Doesn't anybody here know who it was -- and how I can direct new pages to certain ppl in particular?

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-18   21:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed, Pinguinite (#8)

I believe there was one who funly called me that. Doesn't anybody here know who it was -- and how I can direct new pages to certain ppl in particular?

Maybe who called you that wasn't kidding and thought you were a JDL troll.

Pingie might be able to answer your question.

Ada  posted on  2020-06-18   21:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada, Pinguinite (#9)

No, it was somebody really good -- the posts were healthily "anti- semitic".

Thanks for the idea. Does it ring a bell, Ping?

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-18   21:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

Doesn't anybody here know who it was -- and how I can direct new pages to certain ppl in particular?

I don't know what you mean.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-06-19   0:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom, Ada, 4um (#3)

"ADA" is a Jew clearing house for anything published by their "boiler room" hack writers that is anti white American.

I have known Ada for over 20 years. I see her as a Christian-paleoconservative-libertarian who has consistently contributed a variety of thought to the forums I know her on. This accusation by our house jew is ridiculous.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-06-19   1:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Anthem (#12)

I see her as a Christian-paleoconservative-libertarian

Apparent diagnosis...

Most likely new prescription glasses would correct the problem?

Secondly a much deeper malady would require a brain scan.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-06-19   3:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Cynicom, that is truly low down of you. Ada is one of our best people here. You're mostly a one-note singer anymore -- the glory of war and killing. Calling somebody stupid or brain-damaged because they disagree with you is a pathetic 'liberal' tactic.

Besides laying tons of good content down here Ada's totally civilized. Wish I could say that about some other players. There's a time and place for everything but most ppl have no idea of the difference anymore.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-19   3:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ada (#5)

Surely you have noticed the alt right has been disappointed in Trump.

I could be wrong about this but I am more disappointed with my fellow Americans acting out against other Americans before the evidence is in or due process has been afforded an opportunity to make an honest and fair judgment.

I haven't seen so much politicization of everything during my lifetime nor have I seen so much hypocrisy. Never has a President been so viciously attacked by the opposition every moment of his administration as has Trump.

It should be noted that the places and people that have seen the extreme violence outbreaks are all liberal strongholds with liberal Governors, Mayors, City Councils, and they hire the police that are committing these recent acts. The cities with exploding debt, empty pension funds, and corruption are liberal.

Referencing the recent spate of terrorism in America and knowing the recipients of the hatred and violence are primarily liberals that elected the local governments along with conservatives that didn't elect these liberal failures but just happen to be living in those areas suffering the damage. Even if the police were then charged with murder and tried, found guilty, and sentenced, or even found not guilty, there would never be justification for burning and looting innocent businesses, or harming innocent citizens.

The City of Minneapolis looks potentially guilty to me for allowing men to remain on the force that have had numerous complaints against them for violating citizens rights. If these accusations have been properly investigated the results (in long form without redactions or portions left out) should be made available to the public.

As a society that claims to love freedom it means that we should love peace too. How can a free society remain free with the constant bickering about even the minutest issue or event, or riots breaking out in the streets before the system has an opportunity to do its job.

I think multiculturalism or the manipulation of it is an obstacle to a real resolution to the problems we face. It is being determined that Corporations are financially supporting the rioters. These corporations enjoy benefits that their human counterparts do not and the government was not instituted to serve and protect the rights of corporations, but of people.

When the FEDERAL GOVT. is able to afford corporations the ability to exist in the first place and then that corporation uses its wealth and power to fund criminals or stifle the free speech of those that have a differing view on issues, it truly violates the original purpose to allow corporations which is that they must serve the community in a positive way. Personally, I believe both parties are guilty of being bribed through so-called campaign contributions to turn a blind eye or even support corporate machinations. Recently, much evidence has come to light regarding Bill Gates' efforts to takeover the vaccination industry by inserting his wealth into areas that concern the health and well being of the ENTIRE GLOBE, and has been deemed a criminal by some for the damage done through his programs.

We know George Soros and his son are funding Antifa, and BLM, two groups that use violence and destruction as a means of terrorizing citizens. Are liberal Americans content with this sort of behavior ? It is felt by many that these two groups are actually intent upon the destruction of our way of life by creating chaos in our cities and states. These corporate finances must be investigated and the ability to operate in this country while at the same time trying to destroy it must be stopped.

I began this response to say that I am not disappointed in Trump but rather disappointed in us as citizens. Trump is one man that entered upon a situation that was already skidding out of control. So much in the way of abnormal behavior has been legally injected into everyone's life regardless of their beliefs. Freedom of choice on some issues takes a back seat to the immoral code of a small group of deviants. Taxpayers are forced to fund issues that are diametrically opposite of their beliefs. This cannot be viewed as freedom because it's oppressive.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   5:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Anthem (#12)

I see her as a Christian-paleoconservative-libertarian who has consistently contributed ....

Modern interpretations of the terms you have used to describe Ada's participation here and elsewhere change or are applied without much concern for the purity of the term.

Who is the house Jew ?

Christians as libertarians requires the Christian to accept abortion, or transgenders, homosexual marriages, and other issues that Bible believing Christians should oppose according to their beliefs .

I have been a participant here on 4UM for about 15 years (approx.) Until fairly recently I had a similar opinion of Ada and the information she shared with us. I do not attend any other forums/blogs so I'm not familiar with Ada's posts anywhere else. I have contested or argued in opposition to some of her posts because I oppose them, and at the same time I don't dislike Ada. I am curious as to whether I never noticed the left leaning tendency before or if Ada changed. I may have just overlooked the things she re-published here, but I can say that I have read most of them. (Sometimes they are so long my adhd kicks in and I cut to the end to get the author's gist.

I'm German/Irish and rejected the neo-nazi nonsense as far back as high school. I am not Jewish to my knowledge and actually believe that Jews play a disproportionately high part in anti-christian and anti-American activities in the United States and around the world. I don't think they are alone in this activity and find many accomplices in every ethnic group. One should ask if the entire world is now or has always been bigoted against Jews ? If someone thinks the world has always been bigoted then the next question should be: "why did these bigoted countries give sanctuary to the asylum seeking Jews only to exile them later on ? Then the next question should be: Why has this same thing happened in over 100 countries, almost every instance of asylum has resulted in the same conclusion, exile. [Here I'd point out that only the Jesuits have a competing record].

Back to Ada. I have never bozoed Ada though I have bozoed quite a few 4UM participants (in 15 years) when they are in my opinion ridiculous or single issue antagonists. I have most recently bozoed, NeoconsNailed, not because his posts are ridiculous but because they are in most cases single issue (anti-Jew) posts that paint a wider brush across an entire ethnic group that most people do not understand (ethnically). Division among Americans is a weapon being sharpened by Globalists to cut our throats and I am for unity as a defense against communism/tyranny.

It's been awhile since I have said "we need to unite against the Global Elites, we can argue about the small stuff later on if we're successful and remain free". Noone's (pun) perfect, especially me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I and most people I know have no agenda to rule the world ourselves or through proxies. To be left alone would satisfy me.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   6:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

Forensic Anlysis: George Floyd Died of a Fentanyl Overdose, not Police Brutality

https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=208904

The facts are in. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-06-19   8:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings (#17)

The facts are in. ;)

The entire country failed the innocent until proven guilty standard by freaking out and acting out making public statements regarding guilt that have yet to be proven.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   8:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#18)

failed the innocent until proven guilty standard

This is just more evidence that people do not know what the Constitution and Bill of Rights says, or what it means. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-06-19   9:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222, 4um (#15)

Never has a President been so viciously attacked by the opposition every moment of his administration as has Trump.

Thanks, 222. I thought it was just me who thought that.

Oh shit! Now I have "confirmation bias." I can't stand another 29 weeks of PeeCee classes. I need to find a bullet.

That was a great post, I wish I could take credit for it.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-19   10:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom, noone222 (#3)

By the light of day, Cyni, I'll admit you have a point here. Just the other day I was once again rapping Ada for the same type thing in 4um -- have done similarly via email, esp. re her fascination with the now mostly worthless unz.com. On post #13 and 14, however, I stand firm.

As for you, noone -- "This article is an attempt to once again smear Trump which has become what Ada posts pretty consistently"? Haven't you noticed what a worthless (even evil) jerk Trump is now? The outstanding Russia Insider article up top is 100% right about him and barely scratches the surface.

The FBI already declared Antifa terrorists and you see where it leads -- no slightest move to hinder them. So Trump's vow to do the same thing is clearly laughable. It's irrelevant because the entire fedgov's policy is clearly to stand back and let the terrorists burn aeriKa down and Donnie is right with the program.

All he does is sit around and tweet, make an occasional threatening noise, and help communists institute communism. He's been a big help on the Extreme Court, huh! Republicans always followed meekly along behind the Dumbocrats, now they're clearly trying to lead the way.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-19   13:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Esso (#20)

Oh shit! Now I have "confirmation bias." I can't stand another 29 weeks of PeeCee classes. I need to find a bullet.

You are too funny man ! I appreciate ya ... and thanks for being so kind !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   17:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222, 4um (#22)

Now that Aunt Jemima's out of a job, you suppose she'd be interested in shackin' up with me?

Well, not ME, I'm asking for a friend.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-06-19   18:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso (#23)

Now that Aunt Jemima's out of a job, you suppose she'd be interested in shackin' up with me?

Well, not ME, I'm asking for a friend.

Man, I can't give you any advice on that shit ... by the way I heard "Black and Decker" was breaking up over this shit. Are they fags ?

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   18:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Esso (#23)

Now that Aunt Jemima's out of a job, you suppose she'd be interested in shackin' up with me?

If that were to happen, brown suga' would certainly have a sugar daddy. ROTFLOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-06-19   18:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings (#25)

If that were to happen,

She's coastin on Uncle Sambo's generosity !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

DON'T VAXX ME BRO

noone222  posted on  2020-06-19   19:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

Just the other day I was once again rapping Ada for the same type thing in 4um -- have done similarly via email, esp. re her fascination with the now mostly worthless unz.com.

Unz prints a wide variety of opinions, some quite unPC.

This one should appeal to you

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=237604

Ada  posted on  2020-06-20   20:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ada (#27)

Sure, that's a good page -- but how long have I been maintaining that unz.com has a smattering of good (even great) material to keep people coming back for its duller, badder stuff, some of it sickeningly "LIBERAL". Cyni is unfortunately right on this point -- their inferior material has a perversely jew cast.

"Some quite unPC".... There are scads of sites that smash PC full time. Surely they deserve the encouragement of our readership. Real truth heroes sacrificially go to the wall with it every day and the stakes of danger keep getting higher.

unz.com had a period of exposing the jew world order and infuriating the thought police but it didn't last. Stuff like that just kills my respect :)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-21   1:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: NeoconsNailed (#28)

Sure, that's a good page -- but how long have I been maintaining that unz.com has a smattering of good (even great) material to keep people coming back for its duller, badder stuff, some of it sickeningly "LIBERAL".

Unz is definitely not a Johnny-one-note. All sorts of opinions, none of which you will ever see in the MSM. And the authors occasionally argue with one another. I have never noticed a Jew cast in his bad writers. His Jewish writers like Israel Shamir and Atzmon (if indeed they can be counted as Jews) are definitely anti-Zionist.

Ada  posted on  2020-06-21   11:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ada (#29)

To each their own, but as you see others here are offer the same opinion on it I always have.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-22   0:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: NeoconsNailed (#30)

I'm not sure if they are objecting to Unz or to something else. Takes fortitude to get through many of the Unz articles, some of which run in excess of 3000 words. For all I know, its Rockwell whom they don't like.

Ada  posted on  2020-06-22   8:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ada (#31)

Do you think we're talking about Unz himself?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-06-22   14:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: NeoconsNailed, Cynicom, Noone (#32)

Do you think we're talking about Unz himself?

Hardly anyone can make it through one of his pieces, so its not him per se although it might be some of his authorx.

I'm not sure what Cyni objects to as he says his eyesight prohibits him from reading an article all the way through. "Bullshit", therefore must mean the headline. Not sure what Noone has a problem with other then articles criticizing Trump.

Ada  posted on  2020-06-22   14:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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