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Title: Russian Navy: It's Not the Size of The Boat That Matters
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBOHz_rgQA
Published: Aug 16, 2020
Author: Russian Bear
Post Date: 2020-08-16 14:52:29 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 3840
Comments: 49


Poster Comment:

What you need to understand is the difference between the the US and Russian military budgets. Russians see defense spending as a way to protect Russians. American rulers see defense spending as a way to rob the American people by the tens of trillions of dollars. Dr Mark Skidmore told us that $21 trillion had gone missing from two federal agencies - HUD and DOD. He once told a funny story. The US Army has an annual budget of $122 billion. So much money had gone missing that the US Treasury sent them a check for $800 billion. Guess what happened? The $800 billion went missing too!!

https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/21-trillion-went-missing-from-2-us-agencies-since-1988/

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

The Russian Navy has been a bit of a joke. Not that ours is much better.

Ada  posted on  2020-08-16   15:21:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#1)

It is a regional Navy but if you look at the world and add up the Chinese, Russian and Iranian Navies, they all add up to doom for the US. Their ships are cheaper to build. And their missiles are far superior. Russia can launch a missile, have it go into orbit and come down thousands of miles away destroying a much larger and more expensive aircraft carrier.

Horse  posted on  2020-08-16   17:16:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#3)

It is a regional Navy but if you look at the world and add up the Chinese, Russian and Iranian Navies, they all add up to doom for the US. Their ships are cheaper to build. And their missiles are far superior. Russia can launch a missile, have it go into orbit and come down thousands of miles away destroying a much larger and more expensive aircraft carrier.

Doom????

That statement is so ludicrous that it tests ones idea of sanity.

Is there even one shred of reality and logical thinking there?

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-16   17:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

Russia’s New Hypersonic Missile Travels Nearly Two Miles a Second

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a25684396/zircon-hypersonic-missile/

'Battleship' Killers: The Best 5 Anti-Ship Missiles on the Planet

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/battleship-killers-best-5-anti-ship-missiles-planet-77866

Every statement I made is true.

Horse  posted on  2020-08-16   18:28:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#5)

Russians see defense spending as a way to protect Russians.

Protect Russians????

That displays total lack of knowledge of the Russian military.

Anyone interested in current military affairs will find that the past and current LARGEST segment of the total Russian military is their...PARATROOP DIVISIONS...

Paratroops are OFFENSIVE forces not DEFENSIVE.

Russia has the worlds largest offensive paratroop army in the world to protect Russians?????

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-16   21:02:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#6)

Russia is a regional power. They have 60,000 paratroopers. The Russians have only deployed troops in Syria in recent years. And that was to save Christians from Al Qaeda and ISIS who were funded by American taxpayers because Israel demanded it.

By contrast the the US has 60,000 JSOC troops who do lots of Dirty Work all over the world. That is in addition to our paratroopers.

Horse  posted on  2020-08-16   23:28:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Horse, ADA, Lod, BTP Holdings, noone222, randge, Esso, Americans (#9)

Russia is a regional power. They have 60,000 paratroopers.

Bummer when one has to look on Wikipidia to inform themselves. Wiki says 60,000 paratroops...but HORSE conveniently left off Wiki saying Russia would have 72,000 by 2019.

That is dishonest Horse.

Anymore Freedom 4um has a tag team of anti American posters. ADA and Horse.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-17   1:12:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Still less than we have from JSOC and paratroopers. And we are all over the world. Russia is not. Yoy are just being paranoid. They do not have troops and drones all over the world killing people. We do. We do it for Israel.

I saw the line that said they intended to increase their numbers if future years but did not see when.

However, Russia is cutting down the size of their military. They are shifting to mobility. The US is the one pushing troops into Poland in violation the US made to Gorbachev during the BUSH I admin.

Horse  posted on  2020-08-17   1:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Horse, ADA, America haters (#11)

Horse...ADA...

Without looking, answer this question...

When was the last time Russia interfered militarily in US affairs???

When was last time US interfered in Russian affairs?

I trust you will answer from knowledge and education, not from Wiki leaks.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-17   8:58:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#17)

I know. . . .I know. . . .

For Russia intervening militarily in US is when the tsar sided with Lincoln in the Civil War and sent ships.

And for the US intervening in the USSR, that was when the US sent that expeditionary force in an unsuccessful attempt to aid the White Russians.

Ada  posted on  2020-08-17   11:56:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada, Horse, BTP Holdings (#24)

And for the US intervening in the USSR, that was when the US sent that expeditionary force in an unsuccessful attempt to aid the White Russians.

Very good and WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE US FEARED A RUSSIAN INVASION???? And what did the government decide to do???

That is is not a trick question.

Horse should know the answer, or figure it out.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-17   13:23:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#26)

The US has never realistically "feared" an invasion by anyone since 1812.

Lod  posted on  2020-08-17   14:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod, ADA, Horse, Esso, BTP Holdings, All (#28)

The US has never realistically "feared" an invasion by anyone since 1812.

Lod...

That is not correct and I will steer you to the information on the internet that will explain it in great detail. It will explain the "fear", the reality and the reaction taken by our military AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL..IT WILL TELL YOU POINT BLANK WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS READY AND WILLING TO DO.

I was there, took part, never knew until years later what the hell we were doing.

Horse is so wrong, so uninformed, so misguided BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT INTENDED IT THAT WAY. Our government was very concerned and willing to sacrifice.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-08-17   16:59:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#32. To: Cynicom (#30)

Go bother someone else.

Horse  posted on  2020-08-17 18:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#30)

I will steer you to the information on the internet that will explain it in great detail. . . IT WILL TELL YOU POINT BLANK WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS READY AND WILLING TO DO.

I credit your sincerity, Cyni.

However, please be so kind as to put the thesis in a few words without resorting to the guessing game.

There are many threats to this nation in the name of individual nations or groups or designated practices (like printing money) or philosophies (like marxism). Many things could be characterized as significant perils that might lead us in some way to destruction.

A link is OK, but it never hurts to be explicit using in plain English.

Thank in advance for your attention, olde paint.

(The Canada thing was a gag, by the way.)

randge  posted on  2020-08-18 06:52:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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