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Title: Russian Navy: It's Not the Size of The Boat That Matters
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBOHz_rgQA
Published: Aug 16, 2020
Author: Russian Bear
Post Date: 2020-08-16 14:52:29 by Horse
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Views: 3804
Comments: 49
Poster Comment: What you need to understand is the difference between the the US and Russian military budgets. Russians see defense spending as a way to protect Russians. American rulers see defense spending as a way to rob the American people by the tens of trillions of dollars. Dr Mark Skidmore told us that $21 trillion had gone missing from two federal agencies - HUD and DOD. He once told a funny story. The US Army has an annual budget of $122 billion. So much money had gone missing that the US Treasury sent them a check for $800 billion. Guess what happened? The $800 billion went missing too!! https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/21-trillion-went-missing-from-2-us-agencies-since-1988/
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
The Russian Navy has been a bit of a joke. Not that ours is much better.
It is a regional Navy but if you look at the world and add up the Chinese, Russian and Iranian Navies, they all add up to doom for the US. Their ships are cheaper to build. And their missiles are far superior. Russia can launch a missile, have it go into orbit and come down thousands of miles away destroying a much larger and more expensive aircraft carrier.
Doom???? That statement is so ludicrous that it tests ones idea of sanity. Is there even one shred of reality and logical thinking there?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a25684396/zircon-hypersonic-missile/ 'Battleship' Killers: The Best 5 Anti-Ship Missiles on the Planet https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/battleship-killers-best-5-anti-ship-missiles-planet-77866 Every statement I made is true.
Protect Russians???? That displays total lack of knowledge of the Russian military. Anyone interested in current military affairs will find that the past and current LARGEST segment of the total Russian military is their...PARATROOP DIVISIONS... Paratroops are OFFENSIVE forces not DEFENSIVE. Russia has the worlds largest offensive paratroop army in the world to protect Russians?????
Russia is a regional power. They have 60,000 paratroopers. The Russians have only deployed troops in Syria in recent years. And that was to save Christians from Al Qaeda and ISIS who were funded by American taxpayers because Israel demanded it. By contrast the the US has 60,000 JSOC troops who do lots of Dirty Work all over the world. That is in addition to our paratroopers.
Bummer when one has to look on Wikipidia to inform themselves. Wiki says 60,000 paratroops...but HORSE conveniently left off Wiki saying Russia would have 72,000 by 2019. That is dishonest Horse. Anymore Freedom 4um has a tag team of anti American posters. ADA and Horse.
Still less than we have from JSOC and paratroopers. And we are all over the world. Russia is not. Yoy are just being paranoid. They do not have troops and drones all over the world killing people. We do. We do it for Israel. I saw the line that said they intended to increase their numbers if future years but did not see when. However, Russia is cutting down the size of their military. They are shifting to mobility. The US is the one pushing troops into Poland in violation the US made to Gorbachev during the BUSH I admin.
Horse...ADA... Without looking, answer this question... When was the last time Russia interfered militarily in US affairs??? When was last time US interfered in Russian affairs? I trust you will answer from knowledge and education, not from Wiki leaks.
The US has a far more corrupt regime so we allow more foreign dollars to slosh around. But Chinese dollars far out influence Russian. They did give Hillary $135 million but that was a bribe to buy our uranium. And of course Israel does far more lobbying than China. So what has that to do with the Russian military. How many countries does the US have military bases in? 70 countries Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. The US has 400,0000 more military active than Russia. Below is a map of Russian military bases. Looks like a regional non-intervening power except for Syria where they are protecting Syria from Al Qaeda, ISIS and the US.
I see no answer to my question. No argument from me on worldwide bases. Been to a few in the past. My personal view is bring them all home. But then what might be the consequences. America haters here seem unaware of consequences.
I am not an America hater. It is Wall Street and Israel that want US troops everywhere and to flood the US with legal and illegal aliens.
That being a truism, I would strongly suggest a more balanced study of past history and present circumstances. Sticking our heads in the sand to hide from the world leaves a part of us exposed. FDR played nice for years and half a million kids died. No thanks.
On Iwo Jima the Japs were ordered to leave their hidey holes and retake Mt. Surabachi. They knew if they did it would mean certain death. The Japanese resistance on Iwo Jima and Saipan was the most intense of the war in the south Pacific. Japan had 900,000 Army troops on the Japanese mainland islands. And many of the civilians would do their best to oppose an invasion of the Japanese homeland. U.S. troops would have o be brought over from the U.S. and that meant a 2 month long voyage on the high seas. Only Truman deciding to use the A-bomb was what caused the Japs to surrender. And you have to remember that Tokyo was fire bombed just like the Allies did to Dresden. After the surrender American troops found a cave in the mountains where they were working on their version Me-262 jet fighter that Germany had given them the plans for. Luckily, they were not far enough along to put one in the air. ;)
After the Battle of Leyte Gulf, the Japanese offered to surrender on the same terms the US accepted in 1945.
Would you have a link that shows this? The U.S. was making plans to invade Japan. U.S. troops would have had to sail for two months to get to Japan in order to invade. The Battles of Iwo Jima and Saipan were a forebear of what would be waiting when the 900,000 Japanese Army troops opposed the invasion of Japan. And even civilians would oppose the invasion using Bushido as their means to fight. It would have been brutal and the Japs would have resisted with every fiber of their souls. They were not being liberated, but conquered. ;)
Would you have a link that shows this? The assertion may well be true, then again there were Japanese and then there were Japanese. A good portion of those in political life were able make a reasonable calculation and sees that Japan's material position was unsustainable and understand that defeat was on the horizon. Events of giant import were necessary to suppress the militarists and to drag the Emperor to the microphone and declare the inevitable words of surrender. It's nice to imagine that there could have been a fair or equitable or reasonable resolution to the war in the Pacific, but that's unlikely to have been the end of such a brutal, brutal struggle. I've talked to guys that were at places like Iwo Jima. (They are gone now.) The savagery of the fighting on Japanese soil was unimaginable for those who had never been near it.
#40. To: randge (#39)
The Japs knew they could never prevail in an extended war with the U.S. since the U.S. was an economic powerhouse. The military wanted to sue for peace. But after the simultaneous attacks on Pearl Harbor and Manilla all bets were off and the U.S. went to an all out war footing. My Mom was in love with a SeaBee but he got killed in the South Pacific. Then she met my Dad as a dance hall. She always told my two sisters, "Don't ever marry someone you meet at a dance hall." :-/
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#3. To: Ada (#1)
#4. To: Horse (#3)
It is a regional Navy but if you look at the world and add up the Chinese, Russian and Iranian Navies, they all add up to doom for the US. Their ships are cheaper to build. And their missiles are far superior. Russia can launch a missile, have it go into orbit and come down thousands of miles away destroying a much larger and more expensive aircraft carrier.
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
Russia’s New Hypersonic Missile Travels Nearly Two Miles a Second
#6. To: Horse (#5)
Russians see defense spending as a way to protect Russians.
#9. To: Cynicom (#6)
#10. To: Horse, ADA, Lod, BTP Holdings, noone222, randge, Esso, Americans (#9)
Russia is a regional power. They have 60,000 paratroopers.
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
#17. To: Horse, ADA, America haters (#11)
#18. To: Cynicom, Ada (#17)
#19. To: Horse (#18)
#21. To: Cynicom (#19)
#23. To: Horse (#21)
I am not an America hater.
#25. To: Cynicom (#23)
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FDR played nice for years and half a million kids died.
#31. To: BTP Holdings (#25)
#37. To: Horse (#31)
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the Japanese offered to surrender on the same terms the US accepted in 1945.
#39. To: BTP Holdings (#37)
the Japanese offered to surrender on the same terms the US accepted in 1945.
Replies to Comment # 39. A good portion of those in political life were able make a reasonable calculation and sees that Japan's material position was unsustainable and understand that defeat was on the horizon.
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