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Title: Salon: Rumsfeld 'personally involved' in interrogation of Qaeda detainee that turned 'harsh'
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/S ... ved_in_interrogation_0414.html
Published: Apr 14, 2006
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2006-04-14 17:37:04 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 84
Comments: 12

Salon: Rumsfeld 'personally involved' in interrogation of Qaeda detainee that turned 'harsh'

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Published: Friday April 14, 2006

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Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in the interrogation of an al-Qaeda detainee that turned "harsh," according to an explosive report at http://Salon.com based on an Army inspector general's report released through an FOIA request.

"Rumsfeld approved 16 harsher interrogation strategies for use against Kahtani, including the use of forced nudity, stress positions and the removal of religious items," according to the article.

Excerpts from the article, "Rumsfeld knew," by Michael Scherer and Mark Benjamin:

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Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was personally involved in the late 2002 interrogation of a high-value al-Qaida detainee known in intelligence circles as "the 20th hijacker." He also communicated weekly with the man in charge of the interrogation, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the controversial commander of the Guantánamo Bay detention center.

During the same period, detainee Mohammed al-Kahtani suffered from what Army investigators have called "degrading and abusive" treatment by soldiers who were following the interrogation plan Rumsfeld had approved. Kahtani was forced to stand naked in front of a female interrogator, was accused of being a homosexual, and was forced to wear women's underwear and to perform "dog tricks" on a leash. He received 18-to-20-hour interrogations during 48 of 54 days.

Little more than two years later, during an investigation into the mistreatment of prisoners at Guantánamo, Rumsfeld expressed puzzlement at the notion that his policies had caused the abuse. "He was going, 'My God, you know, did I authorize putting a bra and underwear on this guy's head?'" recalled Lt. Gen. Randall M. Schmidt, an investigator who interviewed Rumsfeld twice in early 2005.

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On Dec. 2, 2002, Rumsfeld approved 16 harsher interrogation strategies for use against Kahtani, including the use of forced nudity, stress positions and the removal of religious items. In public statements, however, Rumsfeld has maintained that none of the policies at Guantánamo led to "inhumane" treatment of detainees. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, told Salon Thursday that Kahtani was an al-Qaida terrorist who provided a "treasure trove" of still-classified information during his interrogation. "Al-Kahtani's interrogation was guided by a very detailed plan, conducted by trained professionals in a controlled environment, and with active supervision and oversight," Gordon said in an e-mail statement. "Nothing was done randomly."

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Yep, we're the "good guys" alright. Someday, when the rest of the world turns against us, events like this will be the reason why.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-04-14   17:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

Yep, we're the "good guys" alright. Someday, when the rest of the world turns against us, events like this will be the reason why.

Hey ..America is good soo..what else could we be other than 'good'?

.......Crowded House: Dont dream....

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-14   17:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

Plenty of ways for the bureaucracy to dodge a FOIA request. The fact that this document was produced in response to the request shows how the Pentagon is now out to get Rumsfeld.

aristeides  posted on  2006-04-14   17:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah, Christine, Diana, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Bayonne, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#0)

He's responsible for the entire torture issue - publicly announcing that.

So what?

The Bush Cabal marches onward.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-04-14   17:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

"Rumsfeld approved 16 harsher interrogation strategies for use against Kahtani, including the use of forced nudity, stress positions and the removal of religious items," according to the article.

I guess he ran out of ice.

”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt

robin  posted on  2006-04-14   18:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#3)

Plenty of ways for the bureaucracy to dodge a FOIA request. The fact that this document was produced in response to the request shows how the Pentagon is now out to get Rumsfeld.

Last night on the evening news, Anderson Cooper devoted quite a bit of time to all the generals who want Rumsfeld to resign/leave.

It does seem orchestrated.

With Cheney apparently deeply involved in Plamegate, perhaps Rove/Bush/Poppy are looking to redecorate in time for the '06 elections.

”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt

robin  posted on  2006-04-14   18:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SKYDRIFTER (#4)

Heck I remember the sadist announcing with GLEE, that "Unconventional Methods " were to be used. I was appalled, and noted as such.The little $$$bot was so thrilled about it, and the ladies of the MSM were nearly orgasmic over the DON.

Curse them all, with the bones and blood of the innocent.

DONALD RUNSFIELD AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED AND SET INTO MOTION THE TORTURE OF THE GUILTY AND INNOCENT, AND BE DAMMED OF THE DIFFERENCE.

tom007  posted on  2006-04-14   23:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#6)

To listen to the 'bots, you'd think that 2,500 dead American kids were still alive; and the 15,000 surviving casualties were of no consequence.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-04-14   23:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SKYDRIFTER (#8)

that's the price we pay to "liberate" another country. doncha know that, skydrifter? ;)

christine  posted on  2006-04-14   23:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Bayonne, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, All (#9)



that's the price we pay to "liberate" another country. doncha know that, skydrifter? ;)

Yeah, I was in on the liberation of South Vietnam; I remember well.

So far, the U.S. casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq are still ahead of the Viet Nam War, per unit of time.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-04-14   23:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SKYDRIFTER (#10)

The civilian count may well be more like 100K to 300K.

So we are still behind by Vietnam standards. But the official line is much the same:

"I would say 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis." – George W. Bush, Dec. 12, 2005, Philadelphia, Penn.

”We have room but for one flag... We have room but for one language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is the loyality to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt

robin  posted on  2006-04-15   10:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#11)

Unless the Iraqi bad-guys get a lot smarter, I don't expect Viet Nam quantities of casualties (60,000 dead). Polotics will pull our troops out first.

HOWEVER - if Israel has U.S. forces test the Iranian waters; radically different story.

I'm convinced that Iran has Pakistani or Russian nuclear warheads, ready to go. They are doing far too much baiting of an invasion.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-04-15   10:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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