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Published: Apr 14, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-04-14 17:42:57 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, All (#0)
I can think of few things as ignorant as chemtrails. "Windmills in the Sky;" where's Don Quixote? It makes for a great experiment in public gullibility, though.
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I've always thought chemtrails were bunk. Most of the multiple contrails are, of course, around VORTAC stations [radio navigation aids for IFR flight] which is why there are so many criss cross patterns in the sky at certain locations, even remote ones. However, last night, I watched 4 high altitude passenger jets at approx 35,000 feet crossing over the DFW VORTAC. The were showing contrails which are ice crystals due to a particular set of atmospheric permaters which must exist. As usual, and is NORMAL (!!!) they spread out over time and widened to give the appearance of a wider cirrus blanket which gradually spread out and disspated. The ONE anamoly I did notice, for which I have no explanation is this: The jets were all flying level and generally westbound, but were on different headings. All four contrails immediately stopped when the aircraft got past what I would estimate would be the western portion of the DFW area. I mean stopped...abruptly, as if someone "turned them off." This could have been caused by different atmospheric conditions further west which stopped the condensation?? OR something else. This is the only thing I've seen with contrails that is in the least bit intriguing. All other effects noted, the spreading, the crisscross patterns are due to the reasons I stated above. A meterologist may be able to explain the abrupt halt of all of these contrails in the same place and could adress the issue of localized atmospheric conditions causing this. Everything else, however, is quite normal.
#2. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)
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#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#4. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)
Check out my post #3...I agree they are bunk but it was curious why they suddenly all "shut off" at approx the same distance west of the DFW VORTAC..localized upper air conditions changing perhaps?
#5. To: IndieTX (#4)
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#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#5)
Are you suggesting there may be something to chemtrails?
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#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
5 days ago, I started to not feel so well. I had a big bout with anxiety. This lasted 2 days. Then, my skin started to burn, and itch for no reason. My eyes are bruised and swollen. My glands in my neck are puffed up. My face is also swollen to the point of my being un-recognizable. The rest of me is fine. I haven't been hungry much, nor have I been nauseous or anything like that. Someone made mention of a Mumps outbreak here in Minnesota. I'm not out in public enough to have contracted it from anyone. The only thing I can think of is that it's some allergy issue. I can tell you this much, I didn't have these problems last year. I took some benadryl allergy sinus. Hopefully it will knock the crap out of whatever this is. If not, I'll have to break down and go see a doctor.
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#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
We have strange activity over my area constantly. We go through days with completely blue skies - all day - you can spot the planes leaving small evaporating contrails as they pass over @ 35,000ft. Then for days in a row we will see heavy trails that spread out and produce cirrus formations on an otherwise clear day. This continues during all year. The flight patterns are rather strange as well. We have seen do turns in the sky and we have also seen the cutoff abruptly. The wife and I have read alot of carp on the net about chemtrails. There is the so called Operation Cloverleaf to look into. I saw an early draft of a bill that mentioned "chemtrail" by name but was later changed to "exotic weapons". I will see if I can find that. Also, both my mom and my brother (seperately) told me that they heard a bit on NPR about global warming that mentioned the trails reflecting and altering the earth's temperature. They also brought up the study after 9-11 when all the planes were grounded.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
#9. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Chemtrail_theory Chemtrails" are mentioned in House Bill HR 2977, the Space Preservation Act of 2001, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, where it appears as one of a list of "exotic weapons system[s]" to be banned under the bill. Proponents of the reality of chemtrails point to this as official acknowledgment of the possibility, at least, of such weapons systems. The reference to Chemtrails was omitted from the version of the bill re-introduced by Kucinich in 2002 as HR 3616 or in 2003 as HR 3657 ==================== Also search http://thomas.loc.gov for bill S.517 for the 109th Congress A bill to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] (introduced 3/3/2005)
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)
It makes for a great experiment in public gullibility, though. We have real, serious problems in this country...and some people are hallucinating chemtrails four and five miles up, somehow drifting back to earth in such quantities they could affect people, instead of being scattered over hundreds of thousands of square miles.
I can think of few things as ignorant as chemtrails. "Windmills in the Sky;" where's Don Quixote?
"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
#11. To: IndieTX (#3)
I get it really heavy here and I've seen that happen many times. Wait until you see a dark beam shoot out and it's no damn shadow either. On a heavy spraying day look for dark streaks in the clouds too. Keep watching them and you'll eventually see what I've described.
abruptly, as if someone "turned them off."
#12. To: Grumble Jones (#11)
seen it. also noticed the high flyers move very fucking fast, from horizon to horizon in a fraction of the time it takes regular contrail jets. also seen regular contrails and chemtrails from 2 different jets in the same patch of sky. the crap they lay down is not ice crystals. it has a dingy gray appearance and 'smears' when their there for a while, you can even notice some sort of particle drift downward. fuck, i know what a contrail is...this is nothing like that.
'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2)
I didn't use to believe in chemtrails until I visited Las Vegas. They are real all right, made me sick for over two weeks.
God is always good!
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#14. To: RickyJ (#13)
welcome aboard the woo woo express.
'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
#15. To: gengis gandhi, RickyJ, Grumble Jones (#12)
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#16. To: gengis gandhi (#12)
Bingo! I live south of Chicago, after most hard weather fronts that move through, the spraying starts. It will turn the sky a milky white.
....also noticed the high flyers move very fucking fast, from horizon to horizon in a fraction of the time it takes regular contrail jets. also seen regular contrails and chemtrails from 2 different jets in the same patch of sky. the crap they lay down is not ice crystals.....
#17. To: IndieTX (#4)
Contrails are a function of the local atmosphere. The ending of contrails may denote a 'standard' altitude change, to a lower altitude. The 'ending' could denote local turbulence, which breaks up all the air in the region. I've flown in trail of a lot of jets & seen some wierd stuff, when it comes to contrail behavior.
#18. To: SKYDRIFTER (#17)
Something quite common when passing over a major VORTAC like DFW [intersection of several high alt jetways] when in contact with ARTCC at flight level cruise...even for smaller aircraft at lower alt on IFR fight plans.
The ending of contrails may denote a 'standard' altitude change
#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)
I'm sorry to inform you that you have a case of terminal small cox.
My glands in my neck are puffed up. My face is also swollen to the point of my being un-recognizable.
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
Hey Fred. I'd like to know what your problem is with me. What did I do to you? Hmmmmm???
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#20)
You never responded to me about your piece of art offer for $500 to be donated to elPee. I have a new email addy since then. Don't you have a sense of humor?
#22. To: Fred Mertz (#21)
No actually I don't have a sense of humor. Second, regarding the donation to LP, when they pulled their bullshit with me, and I walked, all the support I offered went with it.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#22)
I'll try to remember that in the future. Laughter is a healthy thing.
No actually I don't have a sense of humor.
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
I just pm'ed you with some info in regards to the statue that isn't finished yet.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#25. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#24)
I got it. Thanks.
#26. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL, zipporah, christine (#17)
Just re-educated myself. Here is the best site anyone will every find on contrails...and why chemical spraying [in this manner] just ain't so. If anyone is secretly spraying us, they are doing it in an ambiguous and invisible manner, not from airliners. Notice the pictures on the site. Some contrails at different altitudes, depending on moisture content, stay thinner and diminish more rapidly, while others spread and become clouds. This is all normal! I am one of the biggest conspiracy believers out there, but this is one that just isn't happening....at least not in this highly visible manner
#27. To: IndieTX (#26)
I tend to agree with you. While I believe our government is literally capable of just about anything they can technologically do, I don't generally believe that they are poisoning us on a mass scale as I don't see how THEY could avoid the effects of such poisoning. Everyone has to breathe. That's why I don't generally believe the plague scenarios (unless the govt has a working vaccine, which I don't really believe considering the history of vaccines). The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#28. To: mehitable (#27)
Lucky for us.. ;-)
The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
#29. To: IndieTX (#26)
I am one of the biggest conspiracy believers out there, but this is one that just isn't happening....at least not in this highly visible manner The Ozone Hole Hey.. how's Texas today?? ;) Thanks for the link.. there's another site.. I'll see if I can find it.. owned by a meterologist.. you may find it really interesting and would compliment..
Just re-educated myself. Here is the best site anyone will every find on contrails...and why chemical spraying [in this manner] just ain't so. If anyone is secretly spraying us, they are doing it in an ambiguous and invisible manner, not from airliners. Notice the pictures on the site. Some contrails at different altitudes, depending on moisture content, stay thinner and diminish more rapidly, while others spread and become clouds. This is all normal!
#30. To: mehitable (#27)
They worship death - just like the professor here at UT who is calling for the elimination of 90% of the earth's population. In the SW skies today are all kinds of X's and crosses of chemtrails.
The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
#31. To: Zipporah, ALL, SKYDRIFTER (#29)
Thanks for the link.. there's another site.. I'll see if I can find it.. owned by a meterologist Texas is 80's and windy. Lots of contrails over DFW VORTAC [as usual] all with different characteristics depending on the air's moisture content/altitude of airliners. Lots of crossing patterns, because the jets are all crossing the 8 VORTACs around the DFW area alone on different headings as they fly their IFR high-altitude jet routes, which make natural x and h patterns. These VORTACS are scattered all over the country relatively close together in both populated and remote areas. The number of contrail "patterns" possible is endless since aircraft may either be using the radio navigation aids, or cleared "direct" by passing the NAV stations and using GPS only. Hey.. how's Texas today?? ;)
#32. To: IndieTX (#31)
OH wow!! I was talking to Chris a bit earlier today and she said the same thing!! Freaky stuff! .. here we had a tornado warning late last night high winds etc..today just a gorgeous Kentucky day ;) here ya go btw .. Texas is 80's and windy. Lots of contrails over DFW VORTAC [as usual] all with different characteristics depending on the air's moisture content/altitude of airliners. Lots of crossing patterns, because the jets are all crossing the 8 VORTACs around the DFW area alone on different headings as they fly their IFR high-altitude jet routes, which make natural x and h patterns. These VORTACS are scattered all over the country relatively close together in both populated and remote areas. The number of contrail "patterns" possible is endless since aircraft may either be using the radio navigation aids, or cleared "direct" by passing the NAV stations and using GPS only
#33. To: Zipporah (#29)
true color image over the Midwest also showing aging contrails, Palikonda et al, (2005). 
http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/newcontrail/Nov.13.MODIS.01.jpg
#34. To: IndieTX (#33)
Oh wow.. check that out.. the 'cross hatching' certainly not a natural cloud pattern.. is it??
#35. To: All, SKYDRIFTER, zipporah (#31)
The Chem-spray folks claim the first image is being done purposely and are, in fact, chemtrails. "My aren't we busy.....etc.." Can anyone not notice the similarity between the two pictures?? Now draw more lines over different navigation aids [the rings] on my map from different angles and look at all the additional pretty H's and Xs you get, just like the looney's "chemtrail" pic. By the way, the sky above DFW airport looks almost exactly like this today because of the moisture content of the air at high altutude this particular day, and the number of VORTACs here. But then, how many times must I repeat myself? ;-) I can't make this point any clearer than I have in my 3 posts.
#36. To: Zipporah (#34)
no they're contrails...just like the lines on my map.
Oh wow.. check that out.. the 'cross hatching' certainly not a natural cloud pattern.. is it??
#37. To: IndieTX (#35)
Now you've introduced the dreaded YellowArrow of Doom.
Oh dear.
#38. To: IndieTX (#35)
We're not getting any today. We have natural clouds. Funny how those things only appear when natural clouds don't, unless it's a day before a low-pressure system is coming through. :-D
#39. To: IndieTX (#36)
here's something you'll find interesting time lapse of contrails On this page..there are several: http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=41&start=0&category_id=&parent_id=0&arcyear=&arcmonth= Watch an active morning of chemtrailing which this day was used to determine the extent of and measure the actions of the EM-energies over the Mountain West as a cut-off low off of the California coast was just beginning to advance inland which would eventually assist in the determination of the path of hurricane Wilma toward the Mexican Yucatan coastal communities. These communities took a thrashing because this low far into the American west did not advance eastward as quickly as forecast resulting in Wilma lingering over Cancun and Cozumel far far longer than ever expected. This is why it is so important to understand what is going up upstream weather wise because in three, four even ten days time it will effect conditions downstream. This is why the chemtrails are flown great distances out over the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans... and why southern Alaska is often gridded up with these trails from non-commercial aircraft as manipulating its weather greatly impacts the West Coast of the continent in short order. Note the exact locations, and behaviors, where one chemtrail crosses another. Each crossing, each marking has its significance.
no they're contrails...just like the lines on my map.
#40. To: Grumble Jones (#38)
This is what I saw the other day here over DFW that first made me think something was ...man-made: 
I'm still researching. I may be a looney, too, if I can't find an explanation for that little piece of work..
#41. To: IndieTX (#40)
I don't think it's for population control by spreading viruses, etc. However, samples have been taken by private investigators and they've found that they contain aluminum and barrium. I'm in the mindset that the purpose is to reflect sunlight or some other type of weather modification. We usually get sprayed before a weather front moves through. All I know it's not normal for them to spread out the way they do and then hang in the air for hours.
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