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Title: Chemtrail Thread, - Post any any such activity in your area.
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Published: Apr 14, 2006
Author: many
Post Date: 2006-04-14 17:42:57 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
We have strange activity over my area constantly. We go through days with completely blue skies - all day - you can spot the planes leaving small evaporating contrails as they pass over @ 35,000ft. Then for days in a row we will see heavy trails that spread out and produce cirrus formations on an otherwise clear day. This continues during all year. The flight patterns are rather strange as well. We have seen do turns in the sky and we have also seen the cutoff abruptly. The wife and I have read alot of carp on the net about chemtrails. There is the so called Operation Cloverleaf to look into. I saw an early draft of a bill that mentioned "chemtrail" by name but was later changed to "exotic weapons". I will see if I can find that. Also, both my mom and my brother (seperately) told me that they heard a bit on NPR about global warming that mentioned the trails reflecting and altering the earth's temperature. They also brought up the study after 9-11 when all the planes were grounded.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Chemtrail_theory Chemtrails" are mentioned in House Bill HR 2977, the Space Preservation Act of 2001, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, where it appears as one of a list of "exotic weapons system[s]" to be banned under the bill. Proponents of the reality of chemtrails point to this as official acknowledgment of the possibility, at least, of such weapons systems. The reference to Chemtrails was omitted from the version of the bill re-introduced by Kucinich in 2002 as HR 3616 or in 2003 as HR 3657 ==================== Also search http://thomas.loc.gov for bill S.517 for the 109th Congress A bill to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] (introduced 3/3/2005)
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
It makes for a great experiment in public gullibility, though. We have real, serious problems in this country...and some people are hallucinating chemtrails four and five miles up, somehow drifting back to earth in such quantities they could affect people, instead of being scattered over hundreds of thousands of square miles.
"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
I get it really heavy here and I've seen that happen many times. Wait until you see a dark beam shoot out and it's no damn shadow either. On a heavy spraying day look for dark streaks in the clouds too. Keep watching them and you'll eventually see what I've described.
seen it. also noticed the high flyers move very fucking fast, from horizon to horizon in a fraction of the time it takes regular contrail jets. also seen regular contrails and chemtrails from 2 different jets in the same patch of sky. the crap they lay down is not ice crystals. it has a dingy gray appearance and 'smears' when their there for a while, you can even notice some sort of particle drift downward. fuck, i know what a contrail is...this is nothing like that.
'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
I didn't use to believe in chemtrails until I visited Las Vegas. They are real all right, made me sick for over two weeks.
God is always good! welcome aboard the woo woo express.
'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
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Bingo! I live south of Chicago, after most hard weather fronts that move through, the spraying starts. It will turn the sky a milky white.
Contrails are a function of the local atmosphere. The ending of contrails may denote a 'standard' altitude change, to a lower altitude. The 'ending' could denote local turbulence, which breaks up all the air in the region. I've flown in trail of a lot of jets & seen some wierd stuff, when it comes to contrail behavior.
Something quite common when passing over a major VORTAC like DFW [intersection of several high alt jetways] when in contact with ARTCC at flight level cruise...even for smaller aircraft at lower alt on IFR fight plans.
#9. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)
I can think of few things as ignorant as chemtrails. "Windmills in the Sky;" where's Don Quixote?
#11. To: IndieTX (#3)
abruptly, as if someone "turned them off."
#12. To: Grumble Jones (#11)
#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#14. To: RickyJ (#13)
#15. To: gengis gandhi, RickyJ, Grumble Jones (#12)
#16. To: gengis gandhi (#12)
....also noticed the high flyers move very fucking fast, from horizon to horizon in a fraction of the time it takes regular contrail jets. also seen regular contrails and chemtrails from 2 different jets in the same patch of sky. the crap they lay down is not ice crystals.....
#17. To: IndieTX (#4)
#18. To: SKYDRIFTER (#17)
The ending of contrails may denote a 'standard' altitude change
#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)
I'm sorry to inform you that you have a case of terminal small cox.
My glands in my neck are puffed up. My face is also swollen to the point of my being un-recognizable.
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
Hey Fred. I'd like to know what your problem is with me. What did I do to you? Hmmmmm???
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#20)
You never responded to me about your piece of art offer for $500 to be donated to elPee. I have a new email addy since then. Don't you have a sense of humor?
#22. To: Fred Mertz (#21)
No actually I don't have a sense of humor. Second, regarding the donation to LP, when they pulled their bullshit with me, and I walked, all the support I offered went with it.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#22)
I'll try to remember that in the future. Laughter is a healthy thing.
No actually I don't have a sense of humor.
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
I just pm'ed you with some info in regards to the statue that isn't finished yet.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#25. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#24)
I got it. Thanks.
#26. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL, zipporah, christine (#17)
Just re-educated myself. Here is the best site anyone will every find on contrails...and why chemical spraying [in this manner] just ain't so. If anyone is secretly spraying us, they are doing it in an ambiguous and invisible manner, not from airliners. Notice the pictures on the site. Some contrails at different altitudes, depending on moisture content, stay thinner and diminish more rapidly, while others spread and become clouds. This is all normal! I am one of the biggest conspiracy believers out there, but this is one that just isn't happening....at least not in this highly visible manner
#27. To: IndieTX (#26)
I tend to agree with you. While I believe our government is literally capable of just about anything they can technologically do, I don't generally believe that they are poisoning us on a mass scale as I don't see how THEY could avoid the effects of such poisoning. Everyone has to breathe. That's why I don't generally believe the plague scenarios (unless the govt has a working vaccine, which I don't really believe considering the history of vaccines). The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#28. To: mehitable (#27)
Lucky for us.. ;-)
The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
#29. To: IndieTX (#26)
I am one of the biggest conspiracy believers out there, but this is one that just isn't happening....at least not in this highly visible manner The Ozone Hole Hey.. how's Texas today?? ;) Thanks for the link.. there's another site.. I'll see if I can find it.. owned by a meterologist.. you may find it really interesting and would compliment..
Just re-educated myself. Here is the best site anyone will every find on contrails...and why chemical spraying [in this manner] just ain't so. If anyone is secretly spraying us, they are doing it in an ambiguous and invisible manner, not from airliners. Notice the pictures on the site. Some contrails at different altitudes, depending on moisture content, stay thinner and diminish more rapidly, while others spread and become clouds. This is all normal!
#30. To: mehitable (#27)
They worship death - just like the professor here at UT who is calling for the elimination of 90% of the earth's population. In the SW skies today are all kinds of X's and crosses of chemtrails.
The problem is that govt officials and/or the families/friends would also be subject to these contagions as well as the general populace.
#31. To: Zipporah, ALL, SKYDRIFTER (#29)
Thanks for the link.. there's another site.. I'll see if I can find it.. owned by a meterologist Texas is 80's and windy. Lots of contrails over DFW VORTAC [as usual] all with different characteristics depending on the air's moisture content/altitude of airliners. Lots of crossing patterns, because the jets are all crossing the 8 VORTACs around the DFW area alone on different headings as they fly their IFR high-altitude jet routes, which make natural x and h patterns. These VORTACS are scattered all over the country relatively close together in both populated and remote areas. The number of contrail "patterns" possible is endless since aircraft may either be using the radio navigation aids, or cleared "direct" by passing the NAV stations and using GPS only. Hey.. how's Texas today?? ;)
#32. To: IndieTX (#31)
OH wow!! I was talking to Chris a bit earlier today and she said the same thing!! Freaky stuff! .. here we had a tornado warning late last night high winds etc..today just a gorgeous Kentucky day ;) here ya go btw .. Texas is 80's and windy. Lots of contrails over DFW VORTAC [as usual] all with different characteristics depending on the air's moisture content/altitude of airliners. Lots of crossing patterns, because the jets are all crossing the 8 VORTACs around the DFW area alone on different headings as they fly their IFR high-altitude jet routes, which make natural x and h patterns. These VORTACS are scattered all over the country relatively close together in both populated and remote areas. The number of contrail "patterns" possible is endless since aircraft may either be using the radio navigation aids, or cleared "direct" by passing the NAV stations and using GPS only
#33. To: Zipporah (#29)
true color image over the Midwest also showing aging contrails, Palikonda et al, (2005). 
http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/newcontrail/Nov.13.MODIS.01.jpg
#34. To: IndieTX (#33)
Oh wow.. check that out.. the 'cross hatching' certainly not a natural cloud pattern.. is it??
#35. To: All, SKYDRIFTER, zipporah (#31)
The Chem-spray folks claim the first image is being done purposely and are, in fact, chemtrails. "My aren't we busy.....etc.." Can anyone not notice the similarity between the two pictures?? Now draw more lines over different navigation aids [the rings] on my map from different angles and look at all the additional pretty H's and Xs you get, just like the looney's "chemtrail" pic. By the way, the sky above DFW airport looks almost exactly like this today because of the moisture content of the air at high altutude this particular day, and the number of VORTACs here. But then, how many times must I repeat myself? ;-) I can't make this point any clearer than I have in my 3 posts.
#36. To: Zipporah (#34)
no they're contrails...just like the lines on my map.
Oh wow.. check that out.. the 'cross hatching' certainly not a natural cloud pattern.. is it??
#37. To: IndieTX (#35)
Now you've introduced the dreaded YellowArrow of Doom.
Oh dear.
#38. To: IndieTX (#35)
We're not getting any today. We have natural clouds. Funny how those things only appear when natural clouds don't, unless it's a day before a low-pressure system is coming through. :-D
#39. To: IndieTX (#36)
here's something you'll find interesting time lapse of contrails On this page..there are several: http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=41&start=0&category_id=&parent_id=0&arcyear=&arcmonth= Watch an active morning of chemtrailing which this day was used to determine the extent of and measure the actions of the EM-energies over the Mountain West as a cut-off low off of the California coast was just beginning to advance inland which would eventually assist in the determination of the path of hurricane Wilma toward the Mexican Yucatan coastal communities. These communities took a thrashing because this low far into the American west did not advance eastward as quickly as forecast resulting in Wilma lingering over Cancun and Cozumel far far longer than ever expected. This is why it is so important to understand what is going up upstream weather wise because in three, four even ten days time it will effect conditions downstream. This is why the chemtrails are flown great distances out over the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans... and why southern Alaska is often gridded up with these trails from non-commercial aircraft as manipulating its weather greatly impacts the West Coast of the continent in short order. Note the exact locations, and behaviors, where one chemtrail crosses another. Each crossing, each marking has its significance.
no they're contrails...just like the lines on my map.
#40. To: Grumble Jones (#38)
This is what I saw the other day here over DFW that first made me think something was ...man-made: 
I'm still researching. I may be a looney, too, if I can't find an explanation for that little piece of work..
#41. To: IndieTX (#40)
I don't think it's for population control by spreading viruses, etc. However, samples have been taken by private investigators and they've found that they contain aluminum and barrium. I'm in the mindset that the purpose is to reflect sunlight or some other type of weather modification. We usually get sprayed before a weather front moves through. All I know it's not normal for them to spread out the way they do and then hang in the air for hours.
#42. To: Grumble Jones, ALL (#41)
OK. Here is the the same phenomenon I saw over DFW the other night with the contrails "cutting off" abruptly. In fact, this morning I actually saw two "tight circle/paper clip" shape contrails at high altitude...an obvious military jet(s). There were two. One downstream, but tight to the first, and slightly more dissipated, caused by a twin-jet fighter or two single-jet fighters in formation, with the wind drfiting the twin contrails downstream perpendicular to the length of the "paperclip" shaped route they flew. Yes, military aircraft can legally fly through the same airspace we do, as I have been on the same frequency with them many times while on IFR. [Yeah they have MTR's and Restricted Areas also, but anyone who thinks a military aircraft can not perform a tight turn while under IFR and ARTCC contact in controlled airspace is very misinformed. Miliray areas restrict civilian operations, but civilian airspace does not restrict military traffic except as determined by FAR's and ATC clearance.] After further investigation, I found an explanation. First, more on what contrails are: One meteorologist explains that the dashed line effect is caused by the jet flying perpendicular to several airstreams of different characteristics [already discussed the causes.] In conclusion, if you cumulate all of my posts, you will see: 1. Graphical and scientific explanations for contrail phenomena, especially the graphical explanation of the "patterns" which directly relate to the High Altitude Enroute Traffic Patterns which exist all over the world, distrubuted throughout populated and unpopulated areas, which also directly relates to the location of radio navigation aids and enroute navigation routes. 2. Why a dashed line may form: and/or If TheStateInc was trying to "kill bugs," [us and them] they'd be spraying us from low altitude as they did over Dallas [with my own eyes..and the roar in my ears!] in the 1960's in order to kill mosquitos causing and outbreak of encephalitis. They flew long rows of C-130's from below 500 AGL back and forth in a criss-cross pattern over the entire city enough to dampen the foilage with what I presume at that time period [circa 1962/1963] was DDT. The morning was dead calm. I, as a little boy, was told I could go out and play about an hour after the planes passed. Yes, it left wet spots all over the place and on the grass, yes it got on me, and yes I was misinformed.
RE #40
a. path of aircraft perpendicular to currents aloft of different characteristics
b. The Pentagon experimenting with some military aircraft with substances which are being tested to hide contrail formation for the stealth program, and to aid in contrail prediction for military reasons.
#43. To: lodwick, ALL (#37)
Yellow arrow of doom.
Cool! I made some X's, H's and triangles!
Holy s**t!! There is a blue arrow pointing to a paperclip thing on the map with "tight circles" on each end!!! [A holding pattern which can be performed at any altitude from any radio navigation intersection, even ones you don't "see" on the map. The slower the speed, the tighter the pattern. Military fighter jocks can really make these things tight up high because there are no passengers to make sick!!]
The end of a holding pattern and/or a military jock having some fun. [Picture from WeatherWars.com. Comment mine.]
#44. To: IndieTX (#43)
Notice how the "chem" is slowly dripping down...just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.
Great pic.
#45. To: lodwick, all (#44)
Did you know that air, water droplets and ice crystals can all "fall" vertically or horizontally? Did you read the article on how contrails are formed? Ever seen a cloud deck from the edge on...did you know it has a thickness and even parts that sag "fall" [drip (SIC)] downward to a certain extent, based on the winds aloft and condensation level??
Notice how the "chem" is slowly dripping down...just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.
#46. To: All (#45)
LOFTY SUNBLOCK. An armada of long-lived aircraft contrails wafts above the
Great Lakes in this Oct. 9, 2000, satellite image.
-- Orbimage/NASA
#47. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, ALL (#0)
"Chemtrail" sites insinuate a contrail with a "dashed-line means they are spraying because contrails don't go on and off!!!" Oh yeah? For those who need pictures because they haven't been able to visualize the scientific data I have presented in their mind's eye. Please see this link: http://itg1.meteor.wisc.edu/wxwise/AckermanKnox/chap15/contrail_applet.html OK. Good. Now. Here are the simple steps to make your own "broken/dashed line contrail" in real time: Place the red dot on ICE at or below [less than] 40 degrees Centigrade. Click FLY. Immediately you'll see the contrail. It just doesn't get any clearer than this. A little research and even I debunked my own doubts about the "dashed line" contrail for me ..and you...to see. Conclusion: "Chemtrail" (SIC) pictures shown as being something other than contrails, and the reasons given [dashed lines, spreading, formation of a few contrails into a vast clou deck...yep it happens and now you know why], are only contrails, and can not be demonstrated to be anything else by virtue of the phenomenon presented. What we see here, is a tiny bit of truth [military testing substances to inhibit contrail formation for one real truth which is one reason why FOI requests are ignored by TheStateInc...and yes even some localized weather modification experiments] exaggerated beyond the realm of reality, by exploiters of human ignorance for fame and profit [buy my books and video] to include all contrails which form. BTW, yeah I think I just debunked the huckster's implication that "all contrails are chemtrails and thus intentional." Prove me wrong. Yeah, 9-11 was still an inside job, W is a lying chimp-demon and the NWO/Illuminati is real. I may be crazy but I ain't stupid, so don't draw any false conclusions. ;-))
Dashed lines mean "chemtrails" finally DEBUNKED.
Then. drag the dot "downward" on the ICE line [warmer temp] just a touch to 39 degrees C. Let go. Then back the other way....Did you make your own contrail turn off and back on? I did. Do you think the temperature can vary in small horizontal distances by more than one degree C? Ever been in a pool or lake and felt the different temperatures as you swim?
My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge. I, too, was fooled by some of these websites, especially on the dashed line thing. I'm a Commercial/Instrument rated pilot, took climatology in college, and know a helluva lot about weather and flying..and they almost had me fooled...
All it takes is a willingness to learn..and understand..as could be seen by the progression of my thoughts on this phenomenon and a few hours of investigation.
#48. To: IndieTX (#47)
Correct. Contrails are natural occurrences - chemtrails are man-made occurrences. Reminds me of the Jew vs. Zionist confusion. Cheers, TX.
I think I just debunked the huckster's implication that "all contrails are chemtrails and thus intentional."
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