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Title: Chemtrail Thread, - Post any any such activity in your area.
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Up in the Air
URL Source: http://Http;//www.upintheair.com
Published: Apr 14, 2006
Author: many
Post Date: 2006-04-14 17:42:57 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Views: 11147
Comments: 78
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#47. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, ALL (#0)
"Chemtrail" sites insinuate a contrail with a "dashed-line means they are spraying because contrails don't go on and off!!!" Oh yeah? For those who need pictures because they haven't been able to visualize the scientific data I have presented in their mind's eye. Please see this link: http://itg1.meteor.wisc.edu/wxwise/AckermanKnox/chap15/contrail_applet.html OK. Good. Now. Here are the simple steps to make your own "broken/dashed line contrail" in real time: Place the red dot on ICE at or below [less than] 40 degrees Centigrade. Click FLY. Immediately you'll see the contrail. It just doesn't get any clearer than this. A little research and even I debunked my own doubts about the "dashed line" contrail for me ..and you...to see. Conclusion: "Chemtrail" (SIC) pictures shown as being something other than contrails, and the reasons given [dashed lines, spreading, formation of a few contrails into a vast clou deck...yep it happens and now you know why], are only contrails, and can not be demonstrated to be anything else by virtue of the phenomenon presented. What we see here, is a tiny bit of truth [military testing substances to inhibit contrail formation for one real truth which is one reason why FOI requests are ignored by TheStateInc...and yes even some localized weather modification experiments] exaggerated beyond the realm of reality, by exploiters of human ignorance for fame and profit [buy my books and video] to include all contrails which form. BTW, yeah I think I just debunked the huckster's implication that "all contrails are chemtrails and thus intentional." Prove me wrong. Yeah, 9-11 was still an inside job, W is a lying chimp-demon and the NWO/Illuminati is real. I may be crazy but I ain't stupid, so don't draw any false conclusions. ;-))
Correct. Contrails are natural occurrences - chemtrails are man-made occurrences. Reminds me of the Jew vs. Zionist confusion. Cheers, TX.
Chemtrails- What's wrong with our skys video
The video fails to deliver credible proof of any point made by the presenter. Neither does it refute any point made in this thread.. "Any commercial pilot that flies like this will get his license revoked.."(laughter funny ha ha..) [Oh really? False. Sarcasm can not make points in debate when there is no point to be made.] The video is just the same "these pictures are not normal" when, in fact, they are. Yep, I've seen contrails by moonlight/starlight when light pollution is virtually nill.. And yes, he, too, has a book out to keep going about Gulf War Syndrome [Yes he "borrows" credibility from this condition and uses GWS to lend truth to chemtrails..] Points made in video have been addressed in this thread or here: The Chemtrails Conspiracy. He who willingly denies to read/see the truth, when it is available, is not blind...but in voluntary darkness.
Help me out here - you, and we all, know what contrails are. Do you believe that whomever is spraying us with chemtrails? Thanks.
#53. To: lodwick (#52)
Do you believe that whomever is spraying us with chemtrails? Thanks. Good questions Lod..
Do you believe that whomever is spraying us with chemtrails? You've read my threads. I would be the last one to ever deny that TheStateInc has the ability or the willingness to spray us with anything. Look what was done with atmospheric nuclear tests. [I'm not trying to debunk you or anyone else personally, just the people trying to push regular contrails as chemtrails on the websites.] It's just that I deny that the aircraft contrails shown in the "chemtrail" site pictures are spraying whatever it might be on us, and therefore, are not "chemtrails." I'm trying to honestly and empirically explain why I believe it based on my flying experience and investigations. Yes I think, as I already acknowledged, that localized weather mod tests and localized testing of substances to hide contrails for stealth aircraft has and is taking place, but not via a commercial aircraft JP3 conspiriatorial additive. I can explain all of the patterns and phenomenon. I've even had them spray me with DDT from low altitude which is what they'd be doing now if they were testing a toxin on us. Could they be? Of course..and hell yeah! But the contrails aren't this type of thing. The day I see 5 C-130's or helicopters with nozzles at low altitude [500 AGL or below] flying in parallel again over my quarters...and if I were to feel ill the next day...there could sure be a correlation in that. Contrails ("CHEMTRAILS") are NORMAL. But they happen less often than they don't happen which makes it easy to make something "suspicious" out of them for someone trying to make money off us. The photos on the chemtrail sites are not faked, but their explanation is disingenuous if posted by scientifically knowledgeble people and/or pilots, and just incorrect if posted by those, like me earlier in this thread, who just haven't investigated the science yet. When I made my 1st post, I wasn't sure where I'd end up because I had never researched this. The one thing I knew immediately was the familiar "grid" patterns of the IFR radio navigation charts. The International Space Station crew sees them all the time, except when airplanes are not flying, as happened in the days after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Here is the report from www.space.com from September 14th, 2001: "Three days after suicide airplane hijackers toppled the World Trade Center in New York and slammed into the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., [ED: I deny this assumption also as everyone already knows!] the station crew noted an obvious absence of airborne jetliners from their perch 240 miles (384 kilometers) above Earth. 'I’ll tell you one thing that’s really strange: Normally when we go over the U.S., the sky is like a spider web of contrails,' U.S. astronaut and outpost commander Frank Culbertson told flight controllers at NASA’s Mission Control Center in Houston. 'And now the sky is just about completely empty. There are no contrails in the sky,' he added. 'It’s very, very weird.' 'I hadn’t thought of that perspective,' fellow astronaut Cady Coleman replied." Source: http://www.space.com./missionlaunches/missions/airtraffic_absence_010914.html
Dig this Lodwick: This is what they did over Dallas in the 60's with DDT but there were several all lined up. Notice low altitude and spray being released. Now THIS is a chemtrail!! Cheers :-)))
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestDashed lines mean "chemtrails" finally DEBUNKED.
Then. drag the dot "downward" on the ICE line [warmer temp] just a touch to 39 degrees C. Let go. Then back the other way....Did you make your own contrail turn off and back on? I did. Do you think the temperature can vary in small horizontal distances by more than one degree C? Ever been in a pool or lake and felt the different temperatures as you swim?
My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge. I, too, was fooled by some of these websites, especially on the dashed line thing. I'm a Commercial/Instrument rated pilot, took climatology in college, and know a helluva lot about weather and flying..and they almost had me fooled...
All it takes is a willingness to learn..and understand..as could be seen by the progression of my thoughts on this phenomenon and a few hours of investigation.
#48. To: IndieTX (#47)
I think I just debunked the huckster's implication that "all contrails are chemtrails and thus intentional."
#49. To: lodwick, IndieTX (#48)
#50. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#49)
Outstanding link - thank you very much.
#51. To: lodwick, all, SKYDRIFTER (#50)
Video link.
#52. To: IndieTX (#51)
He who willingly denies to read/see the truth, when it is available, is not blind...but in voluntary darkness.
Replies to Comment # 52. Help me out here - you, and we all, know what contrails are.
#54. To: lodwick, zipporah, all (#52)
Help me out here - you, and we all, know what contrails are.
#55. To: lodwick (#52)
NEW ORLEANS -- A U.S. Air Force Reserve C-130 Hercules from the 910th Airlift Wing at Youngstown Air Reserve Station, Ohio, sprays Dibrom, a pesticide approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, over the city Sept. 13, 2005. The C-130 crew plans to spray the New Orleans area first, then other affected Gulf Coast areas as required. Crews will target are primarily mosquitoes and filth flies, which are capable of transmitting diseases such as Malaria, West Nile virus, and various types of Encephalitis. The C-130 is capable of spraying about 60,000 acres per day. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jacob N. Bailey)
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