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Title: Chinese general taunts US: Our success against you in Korea 70 years ago serves as a warning to you to stop escalating tensions
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URL Source: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502413-china-korean-war-america/
Published: Oct 4, 2020
Author: Tom Fowdy
Post Date: 2020-10-04 09:39:35 by Ada
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Views: 603
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Tom Fowdy is a British writer and analyst of politics and international relations with a primary focus on East Asia.

General He Lei recalls the PLA’s successful expulsion of American troops from North Korea in 1950 as he warns that China will be “ready for war” amid growing tensions between Washington and Beijing.

Seventy years ago, in October 1950, Chinese troops crossed the Yalu River into North Korea. Labelled the ‘People’s Volunteers’ they set out to confront an imminent threat to their homeland. General Douglas MacArthur, leading a United States coalition against Pyongyang, had succeeded not only in thwarting Kim Il Sung’s bid to take the South, but sought to advance beyond the 38th parallel to terminate the DPRK altogether.

He made no secret about what he planned to do next: he spoke of “continuing” the Korean War into China and dropping a number of atomic bombs around the border to nullify Beijing’s strategic influence on the neighbouring peninsula. Fearing strategic encirclement and checkmate by Washington, Mao Zedong decided to intervene in the war, sending millions of troops into Korea. Despite at that time being an impoverished country with an essentially peasant army; China’s forces overran the UN coalition and forced them back into the South. Also on rt.com Move over dollar: Chinese yuan ends quarter with biggest gains in 12 years

The memories in Beijing of what they describe as the “war to resist American aggression” have not been forgotten. The successful intervention into the Korean War and the rescue of the DPRK against a far superior opponent is heralded as the symbolic end to “China’s century of humiliation” by Western powers and newly found confidence in itself.

The time that has elapsed since this battle hasn’t made it any less relevant. Facing an increasingly hostile United States on the global stage, People’s Liberation Army General He Lei recalled the victory of 1950 in a jibe against Washington, saying China “[has] the will to fight and the confidence to win” and “We will work hard to cultivate the will to fight, strengthen our sense of mission, responsibility and urgency to be ready for war.”

The highly charged comments reflect the growing atmosphere of public fear as to whether these two powers will ultimately clash militarily, especially given America’s escalation of tensions in the South China Sea and Taiwan Strait by ramping up military exercises.

Some scholars have often spoken of the ‘Thucydides Trap’, inspired by the wars between Athens and Sparta, whereby two great powers become locked in a spiralling rivalry which leads, inevitably, to war. With China the rising power and the US the “status quo” eager to suppress Beijing’s rise, one wonders what the eventual outcome will be.

Whilst General He’s remarks were not an accident, China’s leaders are by no means seeking a physical conflict with the US, or even an outright quest for hegemony. Although America’s leaders constantly frame Beijing as a “threat,” in practice this is misleading and is based on dated Cold War clichés and deliberate fearmongering to manufacture consent for US foreign policy.

Beijing has no serious intention of waging a zero-sum cold war struggle against Washington, nor does it attempt to proliferate its ideology overseas. It would much rather maintain productive ties with America and seek a stable international environment in order to secure continuing economic growth.

Yet this isn’t where we are. International relations are not about “good intentions.” A neo-realist will tell you it is the structural implications of the global system which forces states to respond to their environment. China is not seeking confrontation with the US, but the past few years nevertheless oblige Beijing, whether they like it or not, to respond to this environment and prepare for it.

Washington is aiming to strategically encircle China’s periphery through visions such as ‘The Indo-Pacific’, increasing support to Taiwan and escalation in the South China Sea. As a result, Xi Jinping has no choice but to respond to these efforts, just as China did in Korea in 1950, otherwise he risks being strategically outplayed. Passivity and good will towards the United States won’t change the situation. Also on rt.com Ban on Chinese students will be another act of crazy self-harm by Britain on its anti-Beijing crusade

Whilst General He’s opinion represents a militarist view, and not one publicly spoken by China’s civilian leaders, his appearance in the international media is not an ad-hoc event or mere coincidence. The messaging is deliberate: Beijing is not openly looking for a fight, but what the historical legacy of the Korean War shows us is that it is prepared to do what it feels is needed in order to protect its strategic proximity.

China will continue to try and talk Washington out of its current path, but to only do such would be ignoring the military dynamic at its own peril. Therefore, whilst nobody can truly say how this growing confrontation will end, talk of a ‘Thucydides Trap’ ultimately matters. China is confident, but cautious.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

sending millions of troops into Korea.

Chinese counterattacks in Korea change nature of war

in October 1950 troops from the Chinese People’s Liberation Army began to cross the border to assist their North Korean ally. Their numbers grew to around 300,000 by early November.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-04   10:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

Chinese counterattacks in Korea change nature of war

China admits to 150,000 troops lost in Korea, the US lost 39,000.

It was no new warfare, rather it was olde barbarism war by Chinese.

Without firing a shot we can shut China down from the Pacific. All foreign ships would be warned away. What would China do? Launch nuclear missiles?

Cynicom  posted on  2020-10-04   10:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

MacArthur should have been allowed to destroy Peking, as he wished.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-10-04   10:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_Fairfield-Suisun_Boeing_B-29_crash

I joined that group a year later and there was an oddity...

Our targets were in Russia, not China.

Fighting Chinese in Korea and targets in Russia???? Back then it did not make sense to us, now years later it does make sense.

The next day Steffes took another aircraft and bomb to Guam. He had guts.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-10-04   11:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0)

All throughout history, countries that made war to achieve gains went broke and lost their power. The USA will not be an exception. England faired better than most only because when they lost their world power status, they could rely on the USA to have their back. The USA has no one that will be powerful enough to have their back. Therefore, we will become a second rate power. And, since we have already lasted a little longer than most prior world powers, our end is near.

DWornock  posted on  2020-10-04   12:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: DWornock (#5)

we've all read this

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;

From spiritual faith to great courage;

From courage to liberty;

From liberty to abundance;

From abundance to complacency;

From complacency to apathy;

From apathy to dependence;

From dependence back into bondage.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-10-04   13:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: DWornock (#5)

England faired better than most only because when they lost their world power status, they could rely on the USA to have their back.

Actually, as a result of Britain's involvement in WW II, she lost most of her colonies and now only has some protectorates overseas. India was one of those colonies. And Mahatma Ghandi was a main reason for that with his peaceful revolution. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-04   15:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

At the end of the Con Con in 1789, reporters asked Ben Franklin, "Mr. Franklin, what have you given us?" Franklin replied, "A Republic, IF you can keep it." ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-04   17:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#8)

Abiah Folger was Franklins Mother and a Grandmother to me, a few times removed. She was sister of Peter Folger of Nantucket time.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-10-04   18:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#6)

Not just democracies but empires: This is a list of empires and the average life is 236 years and we are 18 past the average:

The nation Dates of rise and fall Duration in years
Assyria-----------------859-612 B.C.--------------- 247
Persia------------------538-330 B.C.----------------208
Greece-----------------331-100 B.C.----------------231
Roman Republic------260-27 B.C.-----------------233
Roman Empire--------27 B.C.-A.D. 180------------207
Arab Empire----------A.D. 634-880----------------246
Mameluke Empire-----1250-1517-------------------267
Ottoman Empire------1320-1570-------------------250
Spain-----------------1500-1750-------------------250
Romanov Russia------1682-1916-------------------234
Britain---------------1700-1950-------------------250

DWornock  posted on  2020-10-04   20:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

Abiah Folger was Franklins Mother and a Grandmother to me, a few times removed. She was sister of Peter Folger of Nantucket time.

There are some deep, old time roots there, Cyni. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-04   20:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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