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Title: 'Why Can't the President Just Say Stop?' Because Alleged Thug Behind Whitmer Plot Called POTUS the 'Enemy'
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URL Source: https://www.westernjournal.com/cant ... yam&ff_content=western-journal
Published: Oct 9, 2020
Author: Jared Harris
Post Date: 2020-10-11 11:53:09 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 795
Comments: 4

'Why Can't the President Just Say Stop?' Because Alleged Thug Behind Whitmer Plot Called POTUS the 'Enemy'

By Jared Harris

Published October 9, 2020 at 1:44pm

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, gunning for a total win in the impending election, was quick to link President Donald Trump to an extremist plot in Michigan that would have seen the governor kidnapped.

Biden essentially implored the president to call off terrorists shortly after it was revealed that the FBI had foiled a plot to abduct Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

“I just think it’s got to stop. The president’s got to realize the words he utter matter,” Biden said Thursday, according to NBC News. “Why can’t the president just say stop? Stop. Stop. Stop. And we will pursue you if you don’t, so stop.”

Disregarding the fact that the public only knows about this plot because of federal law enforcement’s pursuit of the case, there is another major problem with Biden’s suggestion that Trump “just say stop” to extremists.

At least one of those alleged extremists doesn’t consider the president a friend.

Brandon Caserta, an alleged ringleader of the plot, was so hostile toward Trump that he called him an “enemy,” and made social media posts to convince others of his anti-government views.

“Trump is not your friend, dude,” Caserta said in one video.

“It amazes me that people actually like believe that, when he’s shown over and over and over again that he’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy.”

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Does that sound like someone who will listen to a call to disarm from Donald Trump himself?

Note the anarchist flag in the background — this appears to be a man whose mind is already made up when it comes to any authority.

Despite facts pointing to the president’s innocence, Whitmer was quick to heap accusations on Trump, saying that his words acted as a “rallying cry” for extremists.

“When our leaders speak, their words matter,” the Democratic governor said Thursday. “They carry weight. When our leaders meet, encourage or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions and they are complicit.

“When they stoke and contribute to hate speech, they are complicit.”

Although the president has been critical of Whitmer’s unconstitutional response to COVID-19, he has never called for harm against the governor.

Regardless, Trump is still being criticized for failing to call off alleged extremist forces who not only do not answer to him, but who, in at least one case, consider anyone in his office the enemy.

When it comes to attacks on Trump, though, don’t expect something as trivial as facts to make an appearance this close to the election.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

an extremist plot in Michigan that would have seen the governor kidnapped.

There never was a plot to kidnap the governor. The FBI plants suggested it and several people agreed. However, no one took any action or made any attempt to devise plans, let alone carry out plans, to kidnap the governor.

DWornock  posted on  2020-10-11   14:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: DWornock (#1)

The FBI plants suggested it and several people agreed. However, no one took any action or made any attempt to devise plans

Are you absolutely sure of this? You do know that if a few people get together and talk about doing such a thing it is still conspiracy. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-11   17:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

You do know that if a few people get together and talk about doing such a thing it is still conspiracy.

I realize that, but it shouldn't be. People talk about doing all kinds of things that they never seriously intend to carry out, let alone actually do something. For example, after the workers are unhappy over something the boss did they might say "Let's unionize this company" and maybe a few would sign up but none are willing to donate any money toward the $100,000 or more to pay for it so it is just talk.

Although not a conspiracy, even if principle is the same, once I wanted to kill someone and I spend several days making plans. However, planning was one thing and was easy and I even bought some material to make a tool I could use. Nevertheless, doing it was something else and I couldn't do it. I didn't even know that I couldn't do in until it was time to actually use the too to kill the person.

For those reasons, I believe talk is cheap and should never placed in the category of actually doing something. If I was on a jury, I don't care what the law and judge said, I would never vote to convict someone of conspiracy unless they actually attempted to carry it out. Even if they made a bomb, that doesn't mean they would actually use it. After all, I discovered I was mentally unable to use the tool I made.

DWornock  posted on  2020-10-11   19:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: DWornock (#3) (Edited)

workers are unhappy over something

When I worked for State of Illinois, the State would make a big donation to United Way. Then they would come back to the employees to recoup what they had laid out.

Three of us refused to donate. So they put us out litter picking and dropped us a mile apart.

The black guy took a tumble down an embankment. I recall the ambulance and County squad car making a U-turn at the end of G-wall to go pick him up.

Then the orders came down we were not supposed to work without immediate supervision. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-11   19:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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