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Title: "Trust the science, follow the expert advice"
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Published: Oct 11, 2020
Author: Irish savant
Post Date: 2020-10-11 17:20:33 by Ada
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Thus we are instructed by our moral superiors. "Trust the science, follow the expert advice". But what if the science is unclear and the experts wrong?

On Jan. 21, the day the first Covid-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed Anthony Fauci said the following on Newsmax TV: “This is not a major threat to the people of the United States, and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.” Shortly afterwards he said in an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine that Covid-19 would be no more dangerous than common influenza. Two months later he and CDC Director Robert Redfield proclaimed it to be "the greatest public health crisis that has hit this nation in more than 100 years.” The WHO's latest mortality rate figures (this week) show that only 0.13 percent of those infected will die. That’s 26 times lower than WHO’s originally suggested death rate of 3.4 percent. This 0.13 percent death rate is almost exactly the death rate for the common flu.

"Trust the science, follow the expert advice"

In March of this year Professor Neil Ferguson, head of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London, issued a horrifying report which projected 500,000 deaths in the UK arising from the Covid virus. But not long after that he revised the half a million to just a few thousand. Just like that! Some expert. But he had form going back many years. In 2002 he predicted that up to 50,000 people in UK would die from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (“mad cow disease”) possibly to 150,000 if the epidemic expanded to include sheep. How many actually died? A grand total of 178. In 2005 he forecast up to 200 million deaths worldwide from H5N1 ("bird flu"). The eventual body count? 78. No, not 78 million, 78 people. That model might need a bit of work, Neil. Then in 2009 he warned that H1N1 ("swine flu") would kill 65,000 people in Britain. The eventual body count? 457. Not 457,000 - 457 deaths. Similar doomsday Covid fatality figures have been published by other prestigious research organisations.

"Trust the science, follow the expert advice"

The effectiveness of masks has been in dispute from the onset of the plandemic. The head of infectious diseases at the Netherlands’ National Institute for Public Health (RIVM), Jaap van Dissel, has argued there is no scientific proof of cloth masks’ effectiveness, and that they might in fact do more harm than good. US Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Feb. 29 beseeched the public as follows: "Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” The CDC initially said "if you are NOT sick you do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask)". The effectiveness of masks remains to this day - to put it mildly, under dispute. Yet moves are afoot in most Western countries to make their wearing mandatory.

Trust the science, follow the expert advice

Originally the WHO and other experts warned that Covid-19 can be spread from contact with contaminated surfaces and objects. This in turn lead to the use of surgical gloves and the maniacal scrubbing of door handles and, tables surfaces that we've all seen. Such warnings, while not withdrawn, have been discreetly slipped down the Memory Hole. Same with ventilators. Remember them? We needed hundreds of thousands to be produced. NOW! Until the experts found that they were killing more patients than they were saving as evidenced by a study of 2,600 New York City patients which found an 88% death rate among Covid-19 patients placed on respirators.

Trust the science, follow the expert advice

The Lancet, arguably the most venerable medical journal, published an article earlier this year headlined “Hydroxychloroquine: Trump’s Covid-19 ‘cure' increases deaths, global study finds.” Shortly afterwards they published a full retraction and withdrew the paper Just like that.

Trust the science, follow the expert advice

The foregoing brief summaries show that the experts have, at one time or another, been wrong, sometimes catastrophically so, on just about everything of substance related to this virus. Maybe I should correct that. The experts who dominate the discourse have been wrong. Many others, voices crying in the wilderness, have been calling out the hoax from the beginning. Their numbers have grown of late. Take for instance the Great Barrington Declaration which has now been signed by nearly 6,000 scientists and medical experts across the globe as well as 50,000 members of the public. They say keeping the lockdown policies in place until a vaccine is available would cause "irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed". Yet we see pressure for more draconian lock-down measures all over the West.

So who do we believe?

My suggestion: Our belief should be guided by the knowledge that the Covid-19 Project represents one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the public.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

I trust the science i see in front of my face. I was aware of this thing in November of last year but i didnt really start paying attention to it till just before it started landing on our shores. Back when chinease tourists were bragging about taking cough suppressants to fly places.

I remeber being mind blown thinking why would someone do that unless they intentionally want to spread it.

Then Itally and the rest of Europe exploded.But it was different.

Then it hit us.

The moment california locked down i knew the whole nation was gonna lock down.

Now in china i saw something highly contagious with dire concerns that even the dead were still incubating and transmiting the virus. A virus that doesnt feel like much, one can still shop, fish, and go to work cause it wasnt that bad... till you coughed seizured and died. And it was sudden and swift. Theirs many cctv videos , cell phone videos, chinease media has videos too of the sudden sezurie then death. People just dropping where ever the stood or sat.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED HERE! Their are no reports of people suddenly going into seizures then death. Hell i spent a week in the hospital last month and they had covid cases and people that interacted with them interacted with me and the rest of the public at large in their lives and it aint spreading like what spread around in china.

We have no mass graves. Our crematoriums are not running 24/7. Nobody is falling dead in the street.

My scientific conclusion? Herd immunity was already reached when it burned through and what happened there is not happening here.

But what kind of leaders would we have if they let a catastrophe goto waste?


Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2020-10-12   2:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: titorite (#1)

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED HERE! Their are no reports of people suddenly going into seizures then death. Hell i spent a week in the hospital last month and they had covid cases and people that interacted with them interacted with me and the rest of the public at large in their lives and it aint spreading like what spread around in china.

Any idea why why our experience is different from China's?

Ada  posted on  2020-10-12   8:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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