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Title: Another institution is sad decline
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URL Source: http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/
Published: Oct 23, 2020
Author: Irish savant
Post Date: 2020-10-23 11:05:23 by Ada
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Views: 811
Comments: 22

The Russian state security service (most commonly known as the KGB) without question set the gold standard in its field, consistently out-performing its Western counterparts despite operating on a fraction of their budget. Unlike the CIA they managed to infiltrate spies everywhere, into the very heart of the Western security establishment, time after time. And boy could they kill. At the peak of Stalin's Terror they were offing 7,000 victims per day. That's over two million a year. Admittedly achieving these quotas for Stalin meant that many an ordinary Dzho-in-the-street out walking his dog got swept up, his evening disappointingly ending with a bullet in the head. But the KGB could also operate with surgical precision, clinically taking out heavily-guarded targets like Trotsky and Bandera.

Which makes the ineptitude of their efforts to murder Sergei Skripal and his daughter as well as Alexei Navalny all the more amazing. Bizarre use of radioactive toxin elements placed on doors or slipped into cups of tea at airports seemingly designed to fail, or at best partially succeed. They all failed. The victims are up and walking around. For such a dangerous monster Putin - for we're left in no doubt that the attacks were personally ordered by him - must be unhappy with his agents. But this raises an awkward question for the Deep State war-mongers and their media whores trying to provoke Russia: Is Putin grossly incompetent or an arch-villain about to take over the world? You can't have it both ways.

The whole blame-the-Russians ploy is laughably improbable for two reasons. First had the Russians wanted to kill Navalny and Skripal they could have made them disappear while they were still in Russia. Second, on the highly-improbable assumption that they blundered on that score, are we really saying that KGB assassins were incapable of cleanly taking out a couple of unguarded civilians walking around the streets? Sadly it seems the public are applying the same levels of forensic skills to this nonsense as they are to the Covid-19 scam, buying into it with their brains in neutral. Our overlords must be so pleased at the ease with which they can dupe the population.

Now if only Putin would play ball we'd have a nice World War III on our hands.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

As you know I'm a huge fan of the Savant, but am surprised to hear him talking about the KGB as in that 1st para. He's certainly right about ameriKan idiocy, huh.

Now -- will somebody pleasexplain this Skripal and Navalny stuff?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-23   11:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

As you know I'm a huge fan of the Savant, but am surprised to hear him talking about the KGB as in that 1st para. He's certainly right about ameriKan idiocy, huh.

Now -- will somebody pleasexplain this Skripal and Navalny stuff?

He was deliberately exaggerating the KGB's mastery. If the KGB and Soviet society had been as efficient as the Germans, no one would have survived it.

Skripal and Navalny are both rather unimportant opponents of the Russian government (Skripal was a double agent spy back in the 1990s) and a Putin political opponent (Navalny). Both became mysteriously sick with what was claimed to be novichok, a deadly poison. By some miracle both survived the poisoning. The Russian government was blamed in both cases.

Ada  posted on  2020-10-23   20:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

The whole blame-the-Russians ploy is laughably improbable for two reasons.

Maybe you shoulda kept reading?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2020-10-23   20:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#2) (Edited)

Thank you, Ada -- but it'still an extremely strange article, a mass of unanswered questions. What did happen to the Skripals (pl.) and Navalny, should we not give a hoot (I do), is it just spy-vs-spy biznis as usual. I guess that's Sav's position?

I say we should value opponents of Moscow and Putin, because Moscow and Putin are bad news. I know I'm the only person in the write wing saying such things, but I'm also documenting them month on month and year on year, online and in a print newspaper. I think it's rather foolish to treat the KGB as a historical joke when it was Puttinsky's first career. Wikid:

'After breaking away from Georgia in the early 1990s with Russian help, the self-proclaimed Republic of South Ossetia established its own KGB (keeping this unreformed name).[3] In addition, the Republic of Belarus has also established its own national security agency, the State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus, the name and acronym of which are identical to those of the former Soviet KGB.'

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-23   23:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: NeoconsNailed (#4)

it'still an extremely strange article, a mass of unanswered questions. What did happen to the Skripals (pl.) and Navalny, should we not give a hoot (I do), is it just spy-vs-spy biznis as usual. I guess that's Sav's position?

For anyone to survive novichok is unlikely yet these 3 did. And these victims are of no use to Putin.

Skripal, however, was of use to Gina Haspel.

CIA director used fake Skripal incident photos to manipulate Trump

Skripal gave up spying in the early 2000s and Navalny is as unlikely to harm Putin as whoever the Libertarian presidential candidate is to do damage to Trump.

If Navalny was poisoned, ... elsewhere for the motive

Ada  posted on  2020-10-24   8:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#5)

So all the poisoning stuff was completely made up? If Trump only hada braaaaaaaain.....

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-24   9:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NeoconsNailed (#6)

So all the poisoning stuff was completely made up? If Trump only hada braaaaaaaain.....

US policy is to prevent NordStream 2 from supplying Germany, so Trump signed on to the scheme. Whether he knows the truth, we couldn't say--he just might have taken the CIAs word for it.

Ada  posted on  2020-10-24   20:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#7)

Thanx. Why doesn't DC want NS2 supplying Germany?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-24   21:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

Why doesn't DC want NS2 supplying Germany?

The US not only wants to sell her own fracking gas – which in addition of violating Germany’s environmental rules – is also much more expensive than Russian LNG. Equally or more important – Washington wants to drive yet another wedge between Germany and Russia.

Ada  posted on  2020-10-24   22:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#9)

So NS2 competes with the USG. Sick, sick, sick!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-24   22:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

Our reason for accepting the novichock claim without any evidence being produced.

Ada  posted on  2020-10-25   9:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ada (#9)

Equally or more important – Washington wants to drive yet another wedge between Germany and Russia.

And Russia can use their natural gas as a lever against Germany and shut off the spigot. But under what circumstances would they do that? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-25   10:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BTP Holdings (#12)

And Russia can use their natural gas as a lever against Germany and shut off the spigot. But under what circumstances would they do that? ;)

If the Germans didn't pay their bill. Happened with Ukraine.

Ada  posted on  2020-10-25   16:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#12)

If Germany doesn't want to become a Soviet satellite when ameriKa finally, really falls.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-25   19:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: NeoconsNailed (#14)

If Germany doesn't want to become a Soviet satellite when ameriKa finally, really falls.

All actions in Europe and Russia are based on commerce. Commercial pressure can be applied by Russia at any time using the price mechanism of their natural gas.

Of course there is the world market price of natural gas that are traded on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-25   19:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

Russian gas is cheaper than America's. America;s gas is dangerous to deliver as LNG.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2020-10-25   20:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Horse (#16) (Edited)

America's gas is dangerous to deliver as LNG.

Is it really so dangerous to deliver as LNG? Please tell us how so? ;)

In Chicago the natural gas infrastructure is so old that when they install a gas appliance it must have a drip leg in the black pipe just before it goes into the appliance. The drip leg catches moisture that is in the gas which precipitates out as it warms up to room temperature. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-26   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings (#17)

AP: LNG Tanker Attack Would Be Devastating

https://www.foxnews.com/story/ap-lng-tanker-attack-would-be-devastating

Israel had to move facilities in their Haifa port when Hezbollah got more accurate medium range rockets.

Muslims just beheaded a school teacher in Paris so they ought not to take risks.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2020-10-26   12:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Horse (#18)

Muslims just beheaded a school teacher in Paris

In France the Muslims said, "They invited us to come in." :-/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-10-26   13:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ada (#0)

I consider it highly improbable that Russia was behind the Skripal poisoning in part precisely because the hit was done with such a flagrant Russian signature. It's one thing to take out a political opponent or backstabbing spy. It's quite another to do it with chemical weapons that earned a puppet/ally of Assad missile deliveries, and broadcast to the world that you were the one who did it and invite international condemnation, sanctions and expulsion of diplomats.

Putin is certainly smarter than that. He's very pragmatic and clever. You don't want to play chess against Putin.

It makes far more sense that the Skripal poisoning was carried out by a government that wanted Russia to be framed and damaged in the international community, just as happened. A country that was upset with Russia at the time.

At the time, Russia was intervening militarily in Syria attacking ISIS and driving back rebel forces. That's about the only thing they were involved with. So who would have been most upset with Russia's intervention in favor of Assad AND had the capability to create or recreate this chem weapon AND had the audacity to actually pull off the attack AND wouldn't care about the well being of the Skripals?

There's also the issue of Russian trust in spy exchanges being compromised. Who would want to trade spies with Russia if Russia is just going to off the spies they trade away later on? In any event, if Russia was going to off them, they could do it without releasing chemical weapons on the general public in a foreign country, which is an act of war.

Yes, the UK security blaming Russia for the attack simply because it was using a Russian created chem weapon is detective work worthy of Barney Fife.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-10-26   14:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Horse (#18)

Muslims just beheaded a school teacher in Paris so they ought not to take risks.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

But then these idiots don't coordinate tactics that way.

At any rate, Hezbollah is Shia and the headchoppers are no doubt a Sunni outfit. Chalk and cheese. They hate and fear each other more than they do Israel.

In one way that's a blessing. From another angle, they're like all pests - stubborn and destructive competitors.

randge  posted on  2020-10-26   15:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

All actions in Europe and Russia

Not now that they're jewed!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-10-26   17:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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