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Title: Does the Military Defend Our First Amendment Freedoms?
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11 ... -our-first-amendment-freedoms/
Published: Nov 11, 2020
Author: Laurence M. Vance
Post Date: 2020-11-11 17:54:55 by Ada
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Comments: 7

It happens almost every time I write an article that is critical of the U.S. military. But it happens every time I write an article on Veterans Day that is critical of the U.S. military.

In either case, I get a few e-mails that upbraid me for daring to criticize the military and its soldiers—as if you could really separate the two. The soldiers, after all, are the ones who do the actual fighting. You can’t have a war without soldiers.

Sometimes the writer of one of these e-mails informs me of his current or previous military service, but usually not. In fact, most of the criticisms I receive in response to my articles about the military are not from soldiers at all. They are typically from armchair warriors, employees of defense contractors, or people who have had a relative in the military—none of whom have ever “served” a day in the military. I can’t even remember the last time a Vietnam Veteran wrote me and expressed anything but anger and regret for what he did while fighting in Vietnam.

One of the usual statements that my critics make is something along the lines of this: U.S. soldiers fight and bleed and die so that you can have the right to write the (bullshit, crap, nonsense, lies, hate, garbage, baloney, drivel, tribe, gibberish) that you do.

Here is an actual example, and it is from a veteran:

I just read your column on your feelings towards U.S. Marines. I could not disagree with you more. If you actually read this I’d like to ask you two simple questions.

Who gave you the right to write such a piece? Who allowed you to print it?

You never gave it second thought did you? You most likely wear your 1st Amendment right of free speech on your sleeve and wave it for any critic to see how YOU have the RIGHT to write such dtibble.

Your and your publisher printed your piece without fear of repercussions or punishment. Why, because we U.S. citizens enjoy a free press.

These two, simple freedoms that are taken for granted by you and, honestly most others most are there because of U.S. Marines, and our Armed Forces. Tens of thousands of us have died or worse, for our country and your right to write and publish such an Article.

The saddest thing is that 99.999% of the people you hurt by writing such articles would, and have defended your right to do so. As much as your words hurt and upset me and every other Marine, you DO have the Right to think, write and publish it.

We feel it’s our duty to make sure YOU have the RIGHT to have the freedom to express yourself.

This is not all of it, but you get the idea.

And here is another one from a veteran that is short (and comical) so I can give it in its entirety:

Your a piece of shit! I’m writing in response to a recent rant you posted about your son or daughter being a Marine. Only and only because my brother’s and sisters, & myself fought those wars for your freedom, which allow you to say what you’d like, 1st amendment rights. I could only hope, I’d meet your liberal pussy ass on the street, so I could run a flag pole up your hinder, with our American flag and a large USMC flag, and tell you, take over and do it better, cheaper and with as much grace is needed. Karma is a bitch pal, you will reap what you feel!

(For the record, the article in question began with me saying that none of my sons were Marines.)

What these two critics of mine are basically saying is that the military defends our First Amendment freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

First of all, it is not the First Amendment that gives us the freedom of speech and freedom of the press. The First Amendment reads as follows:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

War, Empire, and the M... Laurence M. Vance Best Price: $5.24 Buy New $9.79 (as of 09:10 EST - Details) The Constitution was ratified in 1788. In Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress is granted certain limited powers. Abridging the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press is not one of them. Nevertheless, the Bill of Rights—of which the capstone is the First Amendment—was added to the Constitution in 1791 at the insistence of the Anti-Federalists. The First Amendment, like the entire Bill of Rights, does not grant Americans any rights. It prohibits the government from infringing the natural rights that Americans already have. The First Amendment merely reinforces the idea that the federal government lacks the authority under the Constitution to abridge Americans’ existing freedoms to speak and publish, as well as exercise their religion, assemble, and petition.

As Judge Napolitano put it:

Each of the signatories of the Declaration and those who ratified of the Bill of Rights manifested in writing their unambiguous belief that the freedom of speech is a natural right — personal to every human. It does not come from the government. It comes from within us. It cannot be taken away by legislation or executive command.

As the framers understood, all persons have a natural right to think as we wish and to say and publish whatever we think.

And second, no one in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Vietnam, Germany, Italy, Japan, Syria, Mexico, the Philippines, Cuba, Panama, Korea, Lebanon, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Kosovo, or any other place the United States has sent its soldiers was trying to keep Americans from exercising their First Amendment Freedoms.

If you read the Declaration of Independence, which includes a list of the colonists’ grievances with the British government, you won’t find any complaints that the British government was infringing upon the colonists’ freedom of speech or freedom of the press.

No Nazi soldier was fighting to strip Americans of their freedom of speech. No Viet Cong guerrilla got up in the morning vowing to prevent an American from publishing anything. No Iraqi “terrorist” killed American soldiers so that Americans back home would stop speaking freely. No Afghan “insurgent” planted an IED because he was upset about press freedom in the United States.

No foreigner has ever been a threat to Americans’ freedom of speech and freedom of the press. It is the U.S. government that has always been the biggest threat.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

It is the U.S. government that has always been the biggest threat.

Amen...but egged on by its controllers in the City of London [ http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/documents/us-congressional-record-1940-british-israel-world-$1.pdf ] and their ilk, and THEIR toadies in the B'nai B'rith, ADL, SPLC etc. [ http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/01/the-sordid-truth-of-the-bnai-brith-adl/ ]

Was just reminded by a Veteran's Day text I got to look up:

Henry Kissinger: "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."

War Is A Racket By Major General Smedley Butler

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

My heart goes out to all the veterans who were unjustly and cruelly used for evil men's agendas.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-11-11   20:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

Does the Military Defend Our First Amendment Freedoms?

No. Not at all. To be fair though, thats not their job. The job of the US military is to kill people and break stuff most simply put.

They could be doing this job for blackwater or for the french forign legion but the US military contracted them first.

Make no mistake though, A number of 1st amendment audits have been done at US military instillations. They typically call the cops. Theyve been filmed stepping off base onto civilian property to assert their authority and opposition to public photography... make no mistake though theyd never step to a Lt Colonel. John Q public however can get a beat down while they wait for city cops to explain to them that no law has been broken so nothing can be done as it is a first amendment right. Even then false take down requests have been made , erronous law suits , and on and on. So no.

I can DEFINITIVELY assure you that the US military is, just a job , and protecting any of our rights is not in that job description.

So who does defend our rights?

We do. Ourselves. What our inaliable rights are was laid out centuries ago but it isnt the job of government or their agents to protect and defend our rights. That is a job only we the people can do.

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2020-11-11   20:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

My heart goes out to all the veterans who were unjustly and cruelly used for evil men's agendas.

Before W invaded Iraq, some people were marching in front of the White House carrying signs which read, "NO WARS FOR ISRAEL".

But it turns out the real reason the U.S. invaded Iraq is because Saddam violated the U.S. policy of Dollar Supremacy by accepting oil for Euros.

In Saddam's own words, "I do not want to trade in the currency of the enemy."

Saddam was hung on Saturday, 30 December 2006 but not for violating the aforementioned U.S. policy. It was for the killing of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail—in retaliation for an assassination attempt against him. ;)

en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_Saddam_Hussein

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-11-11   20:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

My heart goes out to all the veterans who were unjustly and cruelly used for evil men's agendas.

Amen. As our WWI vet grandfather told all his grandsons, always be prepared to defend this country, but, never leave it to fight someone else's war.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-11-11   22:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4)

As our WWI vet grandfather told all his grandsons, always be prepared to defend this country, but, never leave it to fight someone else's war.

Wow. The voice of experience. Too bad we didn't have the internet then. Maybe he could have helped saved so many others from being sent to their needless deaths. I'm sure there must be a special place in hell for the Kissingers of the world.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-11-12   15:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

what's this??

Is President Trump getting ready to take on the Neocons?

Posted on November 12, 2020 by State of the Nation

Trump (Finally) Hires Neocon Slayer

"...In what may go down in history as a tragic example of “a day late and a dollar short,” President Trump today named US combat veteran Col. Douglas Macgregor to be senior advisor to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller. Trump’s recently-fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper was another in a nearly four-year-long line of terrible personnel choices that together with the ongoing Democratic party-led slow-motion coup has crippled the Trump Administration in its most important mission: Putting America first when it comes to foreign policy.

Col. Macgregor is one of the most highly decorated US combat veterans, who unlike those officers with high political ambitions has actually smelled the stench of war. After blazing through Iraq in a tank in the first Gulf War, Col. Macgregor began to question the wisdom of a US global military empire that was emerging to take the place of the massive anti-Soviet machine that had sustained the mestastatic growth of the very military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned of in his farewell address.

There is a good argument that men of war are among the best allies in the fight against war, and Macgregor is no exception. His experience in the unwise application of massive US military force steeled him against those who would unleash those dogs too readily and with little consideration given to the actual interests of the United States..."

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=36258

wouldn't THAT be something!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2020-11-12   17:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

But it turns out the real reason the U.S. invaded Iraq is because Saddam violated the U.S. policy of Dollar Supremacy by accepting oil for Euros.

In Saddam's own words, "I do not want to trade in the currency of the enemy."

Oh, but it's for Izrul too, every bit of it. Whatever the establi$hment does is usually for multiple vile reasons.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-11-13   2:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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