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Title: Minutemen Threaten To Build Fence; sending Bush an ultimatum...
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Associated Press
URL Source: http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=4792406&nav=HMO6
Published: Apr 19, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-04-19 20:38:53 by Brian S
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Views: 107
Comments: 15
PHOENIX The Minutemen are telling the government to deal with immigration, or they will. The border watch group is proposing a new fence along the U-S-Mexico border. Minutemen leader Chris Simcox says they're sending President Bush an ultimatum -- either deploy the National Guard and military reserves to the border by May 25th or beginning Memorial Day weekend, they'll break ground and begin building a border security fence. Simcox says six Arizona land owners, as well as land owners in California, New Mexico and Texas, have promised to allow the fence to be built on their land. If it's built, the Minutemen say it'll be a double-layer fence with trenches on the Mexican side, facing Mexico, so that vehicles can't drive through it. ___ Information from: KTAR-AM, http://www.ktar.com/
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#1. To: Brian S, buckeroo (#0)
wow! you going to be there, buck?
No. I have family problems that preclude any outside activities traveling afar for extended times this year. My wife is undergoing chemo-therapy which knocks her out every three weeks for about two days. This process is scheduled all year for her. I limit my travel for only business. Next year, the sky's the limit once again!
oh, so sorry to hear about your wife. i hope she has a full recovery.
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?" good news ping!
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?" ping!
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?" sounds like good news
Sending the president an ultimatum??? Shrub doesn't even know how to SPELL ultimatum, let alone what the fuck it means. Why wait until May 25? DO IT NOW!!! THAT, is a loud and clear message that needs to be sent, NOT TO BUSH, but to MEXICO.
#2. To: christine, Brian S (#1)
you going to be there, buck?
#3. To: buckeroo (#2)
#4. To: Brian S, *The Border* (#0)
Simcox says six Arizona land owners, as well as land owners in California, New Mexico and Texas, have promised to allow the fence to be built on their land.
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#5. To: Horse, Red Jones (#4)
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#6. To: IndieTX (#4)
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#7. To: robin (#5)
#8. To: Brian S (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#9. To: Brian S (#0)
I bet they will get fined for not having a permit to dig a ditch on their property. The elite will find someway to stop this.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#10. To: Zipporah (#0)
ping for related story.
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?"
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#11. To: buckeroo (#2)
Prayers for your wife buck.
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?"
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#12. To: Brian S (#0)
I'd like to see the Minutemen start building the fence, if only to say "F-You" to the feds. But what I predict might happen is this: The minutemen will have done with about 10-15% of construction when a local (state not federal) politician(s) will take note and run on a platform of completing the fence. Once elected, they will then increase the state and local taxes to pay for construction at which point the govt will assume full control of the construction ("sit back and take it easy guys, we'll finish it from here"). Construction rate would then slow down considerably, given the nature of govt. It may never get finished. And when private attempts are made to finish the wall faster the govt will interfere to stop. There will be a bureaucracy in place to "support" the construction as well. I'm NOT being cynical here. This sort of thing happens all the time thruought our history. There are instances when the voters sell out as well as the politicians they vote for. Seldom do the voters take responsibilty for their own selling out, but that's beside the point. I have serious misgivings about building any wall. The historical precedents were NOT free societies nor did these walls make them any freer. Having said that, if the Minutemen and other private groups build a wall/walls without the govt either taking over or stopping altogether, the consequences probably won't be as bad as if construction was undertaken and actually completed by the state (or worse, feds). At least private local folks who built a wall on their own accord will always have the option to tear it down later if they realize they made a mistake (always a possibility). Much harder and less likely an option when the government does it. If the feds went ahead and had the wall actually built and completed -- probably subcontracting to a company experienced in that sort of thing, like HALLIBURTON -- they and Halliburton will be calling the shots. And everyone's taxes will go up too, "big time" as one Halliburton employee likes to put it. Anyone who cares about the future of freedom and submits to accepting a govt supported wall to be built will have it come back to bite them in the ass. People ignore Murphy's Law at their peril, and it runs rampant when it comes to government matters. Once in a while that's a good thing, but not to those who look to govt to solve their problems.
#13. To: PnbC (#12)
Excellent points, anything to avoid Halliburton.
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?"
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
#14. To: robin (#4)
Here's the thing. How long have they owned the land? HOW LONG HAVE THEY NOT HAD A FENCE UP??? Jesus Christ... If these farmers and land owners were pissed off years ago, they'd have put up some kind of obstacle. I bet ten bucks they'll renig on the deal under pressure from their local politicos.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
This is a coordinated effort of all landowners along the border, no small feat. I'm guessing they will be having fundraisers. If you're the only one, it wouldn't do much good, as the illegals can just go around it, and then make you "pay" by dumping extra trash or setting a few extra campfires on your property. This will take the MMP and some real effort even after it is built. It will serve another purpose too; prove what a huge negative our govt has become to all of us. Watch them impede and block the efforts of private landowners to create this fence.
“I don't think we have to worry about Rumsfeld, he's a ruthless little bastard isn't he ?"
- Richard Nixon excerpt white house tapes.
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