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Title: Tesla's Battery Supply Problem
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xwxe0wU4b8
Published: Dec 9, 2020
Author: staff
Post Date: 2020-12-09 13:06:58 by Horse
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Views: 789
Comments: 11


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#1. To: Horse (#0)

"We need to transition away from fossil fuels quickly..." (video at 2:13)

No, "we" don't.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-12-09   14:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

Tesla always was a battery company, not a car company.

Ada  posted on  2020-12-09   14:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0)

Trying to have all battery powered vehicles is as daft as trying to have all battery powered buildings.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-09   15:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod, 4um (#3)

Trying to have all battery powered vehicles is as daft as trying to have all battery powered buildings.

Daft? I call it total effing insanity. The EROI is nutz.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-12-09   15:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

I defer to your engineering superiority and your choice of adjectives.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-09   15:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#3)

all battery powered vehicles is as daft

I heard one of those Tesla autos burned to the ground. No one wanted to touch it since the contents of the batteries was unknown. Unknown Haz Mat is a BIG problem. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-09   16:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#4)

The EROI is nutz.

That's right. And these guys should know better than to say much of what they say. I wonder who's paying them?

They say battery manufacturing begins with mining the constituent battery materials, but that's not true. It begins long before that -- before the guys who mined the iron ore to manufacture the mining equipment even got up in the morning. And the guys who worked in the steel mills and the machine shops and the assembly plants... And the guys who drilled the oil wells to provide fuel for the equipment, and the guys who built the tanker ships and the oil refineries and the trucks to haul it and the pipelines to carry it... Etc.

The government's pushing electric vehicles on us -- and pulling internal combustion vehicles away from us -- is intended to limit our mobility so that we serfs will be easier to track and control on their global plantation. Period. See much cogent info and discussion of this subject at epautos.com.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-12-09   16:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: StraitGate, Esso, dummies like me (#7)

i had to look it up

In energy economics and ecological energetics, energy return on investment (EROI), also sometimes called energy returned on energy invested (ERoEI)

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-09   16:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

energy returned on energy invested (ERoEI)

Mr. Spock would say, "That seems logical." ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-09   16:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

Mr. Spock would say, "That seems logical."

Or he might just say, "Obviously."

StraitGate  posted on  2020-12-09   18:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: StraitGate (#10)

Or he might just say, "Obviously."

I can see it in my mind's eye. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-09   18:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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