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Title: I am with Texas and a New American Union (7-2 USSC)
Source: ZH
URL Source: https://zerohedge.com/political/sup ... es-texas-bid-overturn-election
Published: Dec 11, 2020
Author: ZH
Post Date: 2020-12-11 20:45:43 by Screen Name
Keywords: None
Views: 1422
Comments: 21

https://zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-tosses-texas-bid-overturn-election

I will fight to the death with my brothers and sisters in TX.

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#13. To: Screen Name, Lod, Esso, 4um (#0)

All things in their own time.

First and foremost, I believe there still are a couple lawsuits before the USSC. The Texas case was quite significant for giving the USSC "original jurisdiction" meaning there's no filing first in district courts, and it also carried a great amount of popular significance given it was Texas and numerous other states, and not just the Trump campaign or Sidney Powell working as a freelance lawyer of sorts.

Not that this bodes well for the other suits to the point where a Trump win is likely. I'd say it isn't at all, but the adjudication door is not yet formally closed. Yet.

But assuming that will fail, I consider a renewed secession movement to be really cool. I've been saying a while now that the USA is just too damn big. My vote for prez where I am counts for about 30 prez votes where you guys are just due to the difference in population, which is significant. There is no real reason why people in the Bible belt should have to have the same president, or government for that matter, as people on the left coast. Two very different cultures should be entitled to their separate governance. I think the USA could easily be broken into 6 different countries. It would certainly break up the D.C. power center.

Obviously the precedent for secession in the USA is not particularly favorable for the disenfranchised. Then again, the left has pretty much promoted the idea of secession in places like Portland and Seattle, but somehow, I don't think they will be so understanding when secession is acted upon by populous pro-Trump white-supremacists & racists like us, instead of rioters and looters with criminal histories as they set as a moral requirement for such privileges.

There's also the small issue of the national debt. If Texas and other states secede, will those states be willing to assume their "fair" share of the US debt? But even if they would, what would happen to the US dollar if a real secession were to get serious? Likely it would crash and burn in a way far bigger than the Hindenburg, and that would PO about everyone. Though then again, it may well crash and burn anyway.

I do recall the last time around, it was the election of Lincoln to the oval office that set off a secession movement, so if it happens this time with Biden, then it would be something poetic.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-12-12   0:31:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite (#13)

the last time around, it was the election of Lincoln to the oval office that set off a secession movement, so if it happens this time with Biden, then it would be something poetic.

The main issue in the War Between the States was State's rights.

Slavery was not an issue until Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation which only freed the slaves in rebellious states.

But to my understanding, secession is now effectively prohibited since the Act of 1871 which formed the corporate UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

This means the several States are subdivisions of the parent corporation and are effectively forbidden from secession. ;)

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#17. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

The main issue in the War Between the States was State's rights.

That's a generalization, but the catalyst for the decision was, as I understand it, the election of Lincoln. If it were someone else, I believe war would have been at least delayed.

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