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Title: Supreme Court Shuts Door On Texas Suit Seeking To Overturn Election December
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URL Source: https://www.npr.org/2020/12/11/9456 ... or-on-trump-election-prospects
Published: Dec 11, 2020
Author: NINA TOTENBERG
Post Date: 2020-12-12 06:01:42 by DWornock
Keywords: None
Views: 1081
Comments: 10

The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday night rejected an eleventh hour challenge to Joe Biden's election as president.

The court's action came in a one-page order, which said the complaint was denied "for lack of standing."

Texas, supported by President Trump, tried to sue Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan, claiming fraud, without evidence. But in order for a state to bring a case in court, especially the Supreme Court, a state must show it has been injured. In essence, the court said Texas could not show that it was injured by the way other states conducted their elections.

"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections," the court wrote.

Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justice Clarence Thomas, wrote that in their view the court does "not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction."

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I believe Trump is a Trojan Horse. He appears to be fighting for us; however, he is working against us. His RINO appointees to the Supreme Court are prime examples.

Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justice Clarence Thomas would have heard the case. However, Trump appointees joined the others to vote it down.

DWornock  posted on  2020-12-12   6:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My take is why the court will not even listen to anything. They just said NO. This does not pass the smell test. To quote: "This stinks worse that a whore house at low tide".

Darkwing  posted on  2020-12-12   8:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He appears to be fighting for us

Yes. Trump's loss was pre-decreed by the usual suspects. His pitiful election fraud protestations are mere political theater meant to conciliate his sycophants. They will come to naught.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-12-12   9:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I believe Trump is a Trojan Horse. He appears to be fighting for us; however, he is working against us. His RINO appointees to the Supreme Court are prime examples.

No, I disagree. Trump selected typically conservative judges and they are doing their jobs, contrary to the left that predicted and presumed they would simply do Trump's bidding. They are not.

I pretty much called this weakness in the TX case. The issue of "standing" does not mean no fraud occurred, and it doesn't mean PA et al ran their elections by the book. There are procedures which the judges follow in resolving cases, and in this case, the procedure requires that plaintiffs in suits have standing to take action against defendants. There is indeed injury done -- the USSC action does not claim there was none -- but TX is simply not, in the view of most in the USSC, a legitimately injured party. Such a suit needs to be brought by someone directly tied to the states in question, at which point the court is satisfied and can take the next step.

Had the situation been reversed, we could expect the 3 liberal justices to vote their was standing as it sure seems they typically vote in unison. But Trump's picks are simply doing their jobs. We don't like the end result, but unlike the left, we, and they, are following the rules.

There are still active election cases before the USSC. The TX suit was certainly very prominent symbolically given it was the voice of a lot more people, but there are still others. Not that I'm holding out much hope, admittedly. Another flaw was that this type of suit challenging the change in wasn't brought before the court before the election. Waiting until after really puts the court in the place of cleaning up a mess after an election where the declared result wasn't favorable, when, as a matter of law, the fix could have been made before the election was held without risking disenfranchising those voters who voted by mail faithfully following the rules that PA et al set down.

The case does have merit -- the USSC did not state otherwise -- the only problem is the parties filing suit. Trump is simply a victim of their own honesty, which of course is not something the left ever has to worry about.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-12-12   9:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That is a good analysis, Neil. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-12   9:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are welcome to your opinion and I accept your arguments as well though out. However, I disagree with your opinions. Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court are statist judges and in my opinion statists, judges are not conservative judges.

Not only that but as further evidence that Trump is a Trojan Horse, no true Republican president would appoint an Attorney General that works against him and for the Democratic party. First, to help Biden win, the AG hid the Biden family's crimes and connection to China until after the election. And two, he refuses to investigate the overwhelming evidence of massive election fraud even to the point of claiming that there is no evidence of voter fraud that would change the election.

And, I certainly don't believe those appointees were just Trump's errors because Trump is not retarded and even the drunk off the street would not be that foolish.

DWornock  posted on  2020-12-12   11:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not only that but as further evidence that Trump is a Trojan Horse, no true Republican president would appoint an Attorney General that works against him and for the Democratic party.

One of Trump's shortcomings is in his hiring decisions. He was certainly naive with a number of people, not the least of which was John Bolton, whom I think was probably the anonymous provocateur working within the admin when that was disclosed around 2018.

In Trump's defense, his background is that of a mogul. He's done very well in the private sector by seeking out experts to solve problems, like when he fixed up a NYC skating rink in a matter of months after it languished for many years under state construction. Trump did the same thing in a political environment without any political safeguards which one cannot do. Unfortunatly, if Trump learned that lesson, it wasn't until this year.

So no, I don't think that was intentional. It was a mistake and a significant one.

As for Barr, he most certainly should not have made any public statement about there being no evidence of voter fraud. Judge Jeanine ripped him a big one on that gaff, which it was regardless of his allegiances, unless he was sacrificing his position for the Biden cause.

On the laptop, yes you may be right, though it should be pointed out that DOJ investigations should be confidential. Having the DOJ do daily press releases about their investigations as they go on isn't how things should be done. On the other hand, the FBI had that laptop for a long time and appear to have done nothing with it until the DE computer repair guy went public. Did Barr know about that or did lower level DOJ people bury it from him. We/I don't know.

And I say that as one who is quite convinced Hunter is a coke-head loser who yes, worked with his dad to help him sell his official position for substantial personal gain to China and Ukraine and who knows how many other counties.

But I agree Barr should be fired.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-12-12   13:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You give Trump the benefit of doubt to a far greater extent than I do. I believe he should have been replacing his bad choices from the beginning. However, he didn't fire people until it affected his election chances.

DWornock  posted on  2020-12-12   16:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You give Trump the benefit of doubt to a far greater extent than I do.

I do too. I think Trump vastly underestimated the depth of the swamp, as did I.

I believe he should have been replacing his bad choices from the beginning.

I concur. I didn't pay much attention to this stuff until the lockdowns started and there wasn't much to do socially. The extent that Trump's own people were against him, wasn't all that apparent even then. Hindsight is 20/20.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-12   16:57:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As far as I'm concerned, Trump is a deep-stater. Otherwise, he would not have appointed deep-staters such as William Barr and his three Supreme Court appointees. Everything Trump did was for the benefit of the deep-state. Otherwise, he would have brought the troops home and pardoned Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, and Julian Assange.

You may believe he is as easily misled as a 12-year-old girl. I have a different opinion and believe he is very intelligent and certainly brighter than the drunk off the street. And, the drunk off the street wouldn't have supported the deep-state as much as Trump did. If you are like most people after you establish a belief, facts don't matter. However, facts can change my mind when logic tells me that my beliefs are wrong.

It was not easy for me to change my beliefs about Trump. However, I could not retain my beliefs about Trump in view of all the facts to the contrary. The only time, Trump went against the deep-state is the last couple of weeks when Trump learned that the deep-state was throwing him under the bus in favor of Biden. However, his recent actions are too little and too late.

DWornock  posted on  2020-12-13   11:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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