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Title: This forums stance on true free speech.
Source: Vanity
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Published: Dec 22, 2020
Author: Me
Post Date: 2020-12-22 22:19:43 by Dead Culture Watch
Keywords: None
Views: 364
Comments: 37

Just curious about this. Have seen a fee posts with words that would get people banned on other sites.

Dont get me wrong here.

I want to be able to use those words, in fact, its actually liberating to be the true anti establishment still.

Most here are in same boat as me, hippies with actual brains and principles.

Well.... my go to free speech site is closing on Christmas and they are all wondering where to go. If you guys want traffic, and tons of posts rivaling the good old days, I want some guidance here. Ive made a few posts about this place, maybe I should not have?

Anyways, if you want traffic? Make an account at VOAT, its constantly down, but it WILL be up sporadically until Christmas day.

I chose this place to give a shout out to because naming (((....))) is important to them. This...is only place I know that allows that. Link: voat.co/v/all

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#1. To: Dead Culture Watch (#0)

We have the ability here to "BOZO" people that we aren't fond of or feel that they're wasting our time with irrelevant or caustic nonsense. As long as I've been attending classes here at 4UM there hasn't been censorship to speak of and it's somewhat left to the individuals to listen or not, debate or not, with the other members.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-22   22:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...here at 4UM there hasn't been censorship to speak of...

That's messed up. Somebody like myself should never be allowed to use something as dangerous as words unsupervised. I might offend somebody's delicate sensibilities.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-22   23:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The exact policy I would have if I was emperor.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-22   23:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please let the other site know they have a place to call home whenever they wish to check us out and/or join up. Thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-22   23:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The topic & concept of "free speech" is one that has been experimented and bantered about ad nauseam and after much scientific experimentation, trial and error, challenges and reviews spanning about 2 decades, the grand official conclusion is......

....only one person here exercises freedom of speech.

And that's the site owner. Period, end of story. And at the moment, that would be me.

Everyone else here makes comments at my pleasure. And the day I decide any person here no longer impresses me then I make them go away.

That's how it works. That's the only way it CAN work, because I pay for the place here. I have received donations which are of course appreciated, but this site is free for people to use as long as I allow it. If anyone else truly had free speech rights on this site, then it would mean I couldn't morally or legally kick them off when I get tired of them. And since I do have that right, then it means no one else truly has "free speech" to say anything they want here.

Having said that, I'm a pretty tolerant guy. I don't like censorship. I did say once I didn't want the word "nigger" used here, not because I believe the term has any magical powers, but because half of the planet does believe it has magical powers, and there is a certain inference made by stupid people who would conclude that things I allow here reflect my own views. And that can be financially harmful to someone who is a freelance software developer.

So, do feel free to invite others here. I'd welcome most people. The only rule is, don't piss off the site owner.

Thanks, and I hope that response fills you with excited Christmas glee about bringing people in.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-12-22   23:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's messed up. Somebody like myself should never be allowed to use something as dangerous as words unsupervised. I might offend somebody's delicate sensibilities.

Yeah, you are fucked up ! hahahahaha ! But, you can offend my sensibilities anytime, day or night !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   6:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please let the other site know they have a place to call home whenever they wish to check us out and/or join up. Thanks.

Always the pleasant and jovial representative !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   6:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

o, do feel free to invite others here. I'd welcome most people. The only rule is, don't piss off the site owner.

Thanks, and I hope that response fills you with excited Christmas glee about bringing people in.

Was that political double speak or what ???

Ha !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   6:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

offend somebody's delicate sensibilities

We were working a concert at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago. The band switched from a fast song to a slow one. Everyone sat down but for a couple who was left standing in front row.

I hollered at them, "Out! Out!"

I was walking the guy up the aisle with my hand on his shoulder. He said, "Why do you feel the need to touch me?"

I gave him a totally off color response which I cannot repeat here on 4um. His eyes glazed over and his girlfriend grabbed him by the arm and dragged him away.

I told one of my supervisors what I said to him. He replied, "Oh, we're going to hear about that one."

But we never did. I think they just chalked it up to going to the Aragon to see a concert. It was a tough venue to work since there were so many fights. ROTFLOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-23   6:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

to "BOZO" people

You are right about the BOZO feature. I have only used it on very few posters. Most of what people say on here is fairly tolerable. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-23   7:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, you are fucked up !

When I got my pilot's license, the FAA examiner told the FBO, "Larry, this guy's the best stick and rudder man ever to come out of Zero- Seven-Charlie."

Larry said, "He oughtta be, I taught him, but he should've been a helicopter pilot."

The examiner asked, "Why's that?"

LT told him, "He saved one of my planes from Tina N. in a failed crosswind approach at Muncie as a passenger."

He reached into his desk drawer and came up with a brass plaque with the following quote and gave it to me. It's still around somewhere.

I never told anyone about what happened that day, Tina must've spilled the beans. She would've crashed that plane. (Edit) She was lined up good with the runway, but the nose of the aircraft was about 30 degrees off-axis. I really had to mash the left rudder to get it in line at the last second.

The thing is, helicopters are different from planes.
An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly.
A helicopter does not want to fly.
It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other,
and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance, the helicopter stops flying, immediately and disastrously.
There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.
That is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot,
and why, in general, airplane pilots are open, clear- eyed, buoyant extroverts,
and helicopter pilots are brooding, introspective anticipators of trouble.
They know if something bad has not happened, it is about to.

Harry Reasoner (1971)

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   10:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A helicopter

I had a transport driver who told me, "I was sitting in a porta-john at a hot air balloon festival. A helicopter flew overhead and for a minute I thought I was back in Afghanistan."

Holy flashbacks, Batman! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-12-23   11:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, you are fucked up !

I hope you know I was just kidding !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   11:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hope you know I was just kidding !

"Sometimes you're better off dead,
There's a gun in your hand and it's pointing at your head."

I should get cleaned up and go see if I can find the East end of West End girl. I need to get to the liquor store anyway.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I should get cleaned up and go see if I can find the East end of West End girl. I need to get to the liquor store anyway.

Well hurry before they run out ... and have a safe trip going both ways !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   11:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I should get cleaned up and go see if I can find the East end of West End girl. I need to get to the liquor store anyway.

Well hurry before they run out ... and have a safe trip going both ways !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   11:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I should get cleaned up and go see if I can find the East end of West End girl. I need to get to the liquor store anyway.

"And now we ain't even friendly "

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-23   11:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Makes perfect sense!

And ya,.... am now glad most people went to other forums. Most on VOAT would die if they couldn’t say that word at least once in every post.

They use it like vulgarians use the f bomb, as an endearment, as a curse, as an exclamation, etc.

The dumb ones went to Poal, smart ones to Notabug, and the tweeners to Ruqqus.

I consider all of those sites to be less user friendly than here. Your work making these sites has stood up over time. Pretty impressive honestly.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-23   21:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

merle explains it

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-23   21:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Poal, Notabug, Ruqqu

I've never heard of those sites, but algore's interweb's a big, big, place.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-23   21:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They use it like vulgarians use the f bomb...

Hell, me an 222 were on a roll today. Not only should Neil ban us, he should send some Columbian hit-teams to finish us us off.

Didn't work out so well the last time.

Most folks here aren't cold-blooded killers.

Anymore.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   21:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your work making these sites has stood up over time. Pretty impressive honestly.

The software is dated, to be sure. But it still works. Usually. Lately there've been complaints about posts not showing up. It is a real problem but I've not experienced it myself which I need to to resolve it.

But the other part of a good forum is managing, and Christine has run this site for most of it's lifespan of some 15 years or more. Managing has been about simple since I took over since it's not nearly as divisive as it once was. Hell, for a while there after Christine left, no one was managing the place, but it was no problem either. Facebook has pretty much taken over the political discussion market but that may be changing now that FB has started fact checking, yanking and banning people for advocating political views they don't like. FB is also chock full of advertisements which I think people are getting sick of. Then there's the tracking. FB even montiors private communications. You can test it easily enough by sending a note to someone about something reasonably obscure, like outboard engines for boats or hot air baloon rides and then see what if you get related targeted advertisements.

But it would be great to have this place return to its prior glory days.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-12-23   21:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Damn, Loddy, don't go around lettin' everybody know that you've been voted "The Kindest Soul On the Interwebs" 15 years in a row.

Cripes, wouldn't want anybody to think this is a nice place.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   21:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There's some pretty smart folks around this joint.

I'm not one of 'em. Hell, I don't even speak Amerrikan.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   22:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The software is dated, to be sure.

It's good enough for us old Fortran dinosaurs (looking for that asteroid).

I'm not trying to bust anybody's balls with some of the shit I post, maybe just trying to relive some of my "glory days" fighting the bullshit cold war. And I'm just damned bored now.

If'n I get outta line reign me in in PM, I can still follow directives, but I'm so old and crotchety, don't not expect some static.

When Chrissy and you founded this joint, y'all did pretty good filtering out the riff-raff. The members helped you along over the years.

You've accumulated a pretty nice batch of "deplorables" over the years, and I hope Chrissy knows that too.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-23   22:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Lately there'have been complaints about posts not showing up. It is a real problem but I've not experienced it myself which I need to to resolve it.

My only guess would be a problem with senders' ISP or the device itself. Good luck detecting the glitch.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-12-23   23:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To be sure. Ive been here a long time.

Have regretted staying away just because the traffic was non existent almost. Although, screw you guys, have shamelessly stolen many of your news items, and on perhaps five occasions, for those news items have directed to here.

This place was the best of the land of misfit toys, and, it always will be. Just sucks its at the North Pole.

❤️

Edit.

Will shamelessly steal your finds, but from now on, will direct all to here, not OS. Hah!

Sorry. Coronahoax has me drinking again.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-23   23:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ya, sure.....😂

But seriously. Besides George Putnam, this place opened my eyes the most. And ya, you are most certainly a part of that, whether you know or not.

I lurk here a LOT. Maybe Neil can say, ya, asshole is a lurker.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-23   23:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not gonna lie.

This place is now the creme de la creme. Ya. She had a fire and an attitude that is missed. And yes, she molded the group. Now....

A decade after? She left? Only ones left are the ones who truly get it.

For those people, what seems like a dunk gimme is viewed by everyone else as moonbattery. Part of the war on truth, for sure.

And. Here we are. Seems kinda lonely, lol. Gah, guess I shoulda figured out twenty years ago when bounced from FR that people would rather hear lies.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-23   23:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My last post on Voat.

Posting here because its people like you here , that opened my eyes enough 3 months ago, to ‘predict’ the future.

voat.co/v/whatever/4046340

Dunno how long this will be up, site is closing on Christmas.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-24   0:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This place is now the creme de la creme.

Really? I'm sure the honcho (pin) will be glad to hear that.

I'm assuming you're talking about christine.

She's a goddess, to be sure. Even God took a day off a week.

Only ones left are the ones who truly get it.

Pretty much, Sir.

Gah, guess I shoulda figured out twenty years ago when bounced from FR that people would rather hear lies.

That's the way it works kiddo.

And. Here we are. Seems kinda lonely, lol.

Yeah, it is what it is. Lonely? It's hard being sane in an insane world.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-24   0:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

voat.co/v/whatever/4046340

Looks like they had some kind of social credit score going on.

Site looks olde, like when the internet came into being. Just sayin' at a glance.

Esso  posted on  2020-12-24   0:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My only guess would be a problem with senders'

That's my story and I'm sticking to it !

I tried to post on free republic about 15 or so years ago and got kicked off after third day (it was the Jew thing). I also got booted here once and didn't even know why ... but was re-booted shortly after this obvious error.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2020-12-24   8:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I also got booted here once and didn't even know why ... but was re-booted shortly after this obvious error.

Prolly cuz you're ugly.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2020-12-24   9:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Prolly cuz you're ugly.

I will admit that aging hasn't helped a bit !

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-declare-insurrection-exists-overthrow-will-we-people-and-utilize-military-tribunals

noone222  posted on  2020-12-24   9:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Lol.

We are all ugly. Except me.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-24   22:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The upvote system was reddit tier stuff to keep bots tethered.

Was not quite 7 years old.

Best website for user friendliness is Sportshoopla. I dont post there anymore because so many members are literal NPCs.

A shame honestly.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2020-12-28   22:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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