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Title: Louie Gohmert: How suing Mike Pence is the last gasp of the 'election fraud' crowd
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli ... wd/ar-BB1cjZmi?ocid=uxbndlbing
Published: Dec 31, 2020
Author: Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Post Date: 2021-01-02 03:15:04 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 187
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Louie Gohmert: How suing Mike Pence is the last gasp of the 'election fraud' crowd

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large December 31,2020

Louie Gohmert: How suing Mike Pence is the last gasp of the 'election fraud' crowd

Boy, I did not see this one coming!

Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 13: U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence walk away after speaking about Operation Warp Speed in the Rose Garden at the White House on November 13, 2020 in Washington, DC. The is the first time President Trump has spoken since election night last week, as COVID- 19 infections surge in the United States. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)

On Monday, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert sued Vice President Mike Pence in federal court in a, um, wacky attempt to transform the vice president's purely ceremonial role in presiding over the announcement of the Electoral College results in Congress into a power broker position in which the VP could effectively hand the election to President Donald Trump.

"We continue to hold out hope that there is a federal judge who understands that the fraud that stole this election will mean the end of our republic, and this suit would insure that the Vice- President will only accept electors legitimately and legally elected," Gohmert said in a statement on Monday. "There must be an opportunity for a day in court when fraud was this prevalent."

It's probably worth noting here that there has yet to be any proof of the widespread fraud that Gohmert, Trump and the President's most ardent backers continue to allege. In fact, as The New York Times noted over the weekend, the Trump forces have lost all but one of the 60 (!) lawsuits they have brought attempting to prove voter fraud. There have been zero documented instances of widespread malfeasance -- be it dead people voting or non-citizens casting votes.

There's just no "there" there. Like, none.

Unbowed by that absence, Gohmert has plowed onward. And while the legal case is a joke -- and that is putting it nicely -- it's worth examining what would happen if Gohmert's fantasy actually came true, and how distinctly un-conservative it would all be.

So, for the sake of argument, let's assume that Gohmert is successful. And rather than just playing the ceremonial role of president of the Senate on January 6, Pence was empowered to choose which electors are "legal," which, I suppose, would exclude the electors from states where President-elect Joe Biden won but Trump has falsely suggested there was fraud, like Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania.

By doing so, Pence would single-handedly install Trump as president for the next four years. And would set a precedent that the vice president would retain the power to choose the president going forward -- no matter what the actual popular vote or Electoral College looked like.

Uh, yeah.

Not only would that be hugely undemocratic -- disenfranchising the 81-million plus people who voted for Biden in 2020 -- but also deeply anti-conservative.

Republicans are the party of shrinking the power of the federal government and empowering state and local government, you'll remember. Which means that suing the vice president in order to allow him to single-handedly overturn the results of a presidential election should be totally anathema to people who call themselves conservatives or Republicans. Because it would create a federal government that is all-powerful, able to ride over the whims (and votes) of the states.

This, of course, isn't the first time so-called conservatives have abandoned principles in vain attempts to reverse the election results. Earlier this month, 18 Republican-controlled states -- led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton -- sued to invalidate the election results in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Had the Supreme Court agreed -- it, um, didn't -- it would have made it OK for one state to dictate how the vote should be conducted in another state, a blatant disregarding of conservatives' long- hallowed belief in the rights of each state to govern itself.

This wholesale abandonment of fundamental pillars of conservatism in pursuit of making Trump president for four more years, then, isn't new. But it is a remarkable testament to how far some (many?) Republicans have strayed away from the basic principles of their party in order to worship at the altar of Trump.


Poster Comment:

Chris, you are all wet about this. It has been shown with the Dominion computerized voting machines, when equal numbers of Trump and Biden ballots were put thru, they results came back 60% Biden and 40% Trump.

The algorithms are working against Trump and they have had four years to set up this fraud and perpetrate it on the people.

Our (s)election system is a joke. Even the Iraqis get to dip their thumbs in purple ink to show they have voted.

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It's probably worth noting here that there has yet to be any proof of the widespread fraud that Gohmert, Trump and the President's most ardent backers continue to allege. In fact, as The New York Times noted over the weekend, the Trump forces have lost all but one of the 60 (!) lawsuits they have brought attempting to prove voter fraud. There have been zero documented instances of widespread malfeasance -- be it dead people voting or non-citizens casting votes.

BS! thegatewaypundit.com has been documenting the huge fraud daily for 3 weeks. There are tons of documented evidence.

Trump's forces have very few lawsuits and none have been lost-- only delayed forever. The courts refuse to look at any evidence. Other independent people have had lawsuits thrown out, not lost.

ratcat  posted on  2021-01-02   16:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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