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Title: We the People, are fucked.
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Published: Jan 9, 2021
Author: Me
Post Date: 2021-01-09 15:02:27 by Anthem
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#1. To: Anthem (#0)

I would caution to not A) Underestimate Trump even after he returns to civilian life, or B) Overestimate the ability of the Dems to actually work with each other to accomplish much, especially when the Senate is split 50-50 and the house close to it.

The last 4 years the Dems have basically been unified in their hatred of Trump. But once you take Trump out of the equation then that unity falls apart and the dishonesty and double standards they've had for years will come out against each other.

Pinguinite  posted on  2021-01-09   15:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Anthem (#0)

We the People, are fucked.

It depends upon what the definition of fucked is.

Kinda like what Bill said.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-09   15:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)

But once you take Trump out of the equation then that unity falls apart and the dishonesty and double standards they've had for years will come out against each other.

It depends if they make it their mission in life to hunt down Trump supporters and send them off to gulags.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2021-01-09   15:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

It depends if they make it their mission in life to hunt down Trump supporters and send them off to gulags.

They wouldn't even agree on how to do that. That's the nature of barbarians. If they aren't even honest with themselves, they won't be honest with each other.

Life goes on. The world has seen many injustices in the past 10,000 years. What I honesty see and keep hyping is crypto currency. Without control of the monetary system, oppressive governments fall apart. And with crypto, there's an opportunity to remove control of the monetary system.

I consider owning some a patriotic act, and a lucrative one as well.

Pinguinite  posted on  2021-01-09   15:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

I'd be very nervous owning any significant amount of crypto. It doesn't even really exist, it's just numbers that float around that can disappear at any time.

My biggest concern is the gun confiscation they're going to try to pull off. At this point it'd be the match that lights the fuse, and it's anyone's guess what'll happen once that fuse is lit.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2021-01-09   15:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)

I'd be very nervous owning any significant amount of crypto. It doesn't even really exist, it's just numbers that float around that can disappear at any time.

I'm very comfortable with it, though I have the advantage of being in the computer field so I fully understand the nature of it.

It's not like you lose it if your hard drive crashes or even if your home burns down. As long as you got your 12 word crypto key phrase memorized or written down somewhere safe, you're crypto is safe. Besides, you're already reasonably comfortable enough to have a bank account to hold your dollars and some 97% of dollars in existence exist only in electronic form. So I consider that concern to be illusionary.

As for gun confiscation, yes that would be as dangerous as you say, I'd wager. But there are 5 justices who certainly won't be agreeing to that, and the D's are not able to pack the court for at least the next 2 years.

Pinguinite  posted on  2021-01-09   16:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite, FormerLurker (#6)

I'd be very nervous owning any significant amount of crypto. It doesn't even really exist, it's just numbers that float around that can disappear at any time.

How is that different than a saving/checking account or a piece of paper saying you (or I) own so many shares of Google?

All of this depends on social trust.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   16:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#6)

It's not like you lose it if your hard drive crashes or even if your home burns down. As long as you got your 12 word crypto key phrase memorized or written down somewhere safe, you're crypto is safe.

Until a judge says it isn't.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   16:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#5)

... it's anyone's guess what'll happen once that fuse is lit.

True dat.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-09   16:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#1)

The last 4 years the Dems have basically been unified in their hatred of Trump.

The unifying element in "all" of this is blackmail. The politicians that have allowed themselves to be corrupted or placed themselves in positions to be blackmailed smile and glad hand each other are either pedophiles or bribe takers.

I saw a video earlier that showed a copy of the card that was in the envelopes handed out at old man Bush's funeral. The card said something like "I'm sorry, they know everything" ... and it was signed George H. W. Bush.

The video is above.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-09   16:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#10)

Who are "they" and are they in a position to do anything about what they know?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-09   16:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#11)

Who are "they" and are they in a position to do anything about what they know?

I'd refer you to the kulaks, but they were all liquidated.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   16:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#11)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   16:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#11)

Who are "they" and are they in a position to do anything about what they know?

Well, it looks as though they are willing and able members of the special forces groups attached to the Marines, the Navy and Air Force. I am not aware of all elements involved with what's happening but there have been new facts discovered making the situation more difficult regarding decisions about what (exact) methods should be used in correcting things. Italy, the Vatican, MI-6 and others that are allegedly U.S. allies are involved at the highest levels.

It is claimed that Trump is in Texas conferring with others regarding the measures to take place in solving the problem.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-09   16:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#14)

"The System" has failed us.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   17:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#14)

It is claimed that Trump is in Texas conferring with others...

Odd that he hasn't called us up for clarification, as long as he's in the hood that is.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-09   17:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

Trump never should have sought permission from the fucking fascists. Neither should we.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   17:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#16)

I had a call that Camp David was active this weekend????

Cynicom  posted on  2021-01-09   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#13)

Nice, I thought that W.S. might weigh-in on this thread, and Hunter's also a welcome addition.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-09   17:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#19)

Nice, I thought that W.S. might weigh-in on this thread, and Hunter's also a welcome addition.

Thomas Jefferson missed the whole YouTube age, but made his thoughts on free speech very clear.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2021-01-09   17:29:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#11)

Another thing, the raid on the Capitol Building most likely was an "OP" in my opinion. It's being claimed that the good guys were able to snatch up 12 laptop computers one of which belonged to Pelosi.

One thing I know is "we the people" never get to see these laptop computers. There must be some really dirty material on them.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-09   17:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Dakmar (#8)

Until a judge says it isn't.

As long as you are solely in command of the key to the funds, there is no one that take your funds unless you give it up. With a bank account, forget it. Some other party can just tell the bank to give your money to them and it's over.

Pinguinite  posted on  2021-01-09   18:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Anthem (#0)

We have been for the past 50 years.

Darkwing  posted on  2021-01-09   18:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#6)

As for gun confiscation.. there are 5 justices who certainly won't be agreeing to that

You might be too optimistic. Not a single one of them can be certainly counted on to judge rightly.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-01-09   22:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#16)

Odd that he hasn't called us up for clarification, as long as he's in the hood that is.

LOL!

Did W call y'all a lot? -- when he wasn't off smokin' out terrists somewhere?

StraitGate  posted on  2021-01-09   22:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: StraitGate, Noone222 (#25)

No, the decider/chimperor didn't have us on speed-dial. I never voted for him and I highly doubt that .222 did either.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-09   22:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Lod, 4um (#26)

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-09   22:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Anthem (#0) (Edited)

Let me share is interesting read if you want it

nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the- chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa

It's hopeful.. for whatever hope is worth. Still, it makes points too.

As did I today.

Remember when trump first took office with his personal twitter account in tow and he would delete stuff occasionally and the courts reminded him he was a president now. A public servant of the people. And what he said was a matter of public record subject to the laws of the public records act. And so he quit with the deletions. Restored what he could and unblocked detractors. And the left rejoiced.

Four years later twitter and facebook have banned him and locked his accounts. While I can play devils advocate and say that his personal social media accounts may not be the public record it was originally made out to be, subject to the whims of the corperations as a private citizen account on their platforms

When trump went to use the offically designated and reserved government account of the office of the president of the united states of america and twitter promptly deleted his to attempt to tweet from it. The broke the law flattly and indefensibly. The courts, both state and federal have all agreed that the accounts US government officals constitute public record and are subject to public records protections and public records requests.

Twitter unlawfully willfully ILLEGALLY deleted US federal public record. A felony if i recall correctly , from every single first amendment auditor that has taken town after torn, precinct after precints , from government janitors to state governors to court to bring them into compliance with open records requests and unblocking comment for public redress in public forums and the prohibition of deletion of legal content (no death threat and threats of harm thats deletable, also editimgmis allowed as long as logs can be documented otherwise they just have to use corrections and retractions to clarfy).

So what's that mean ? What does that eat in winter youre asking?

It means I tweeted out to the office of the US attorney general reminding them of the public records act and that twitter acted unlawfully in the deletion of the tweet from the office of the president of the united states of america twitter account. And to please investigate.

THEN

I filed a FOIA request of all tweets and communications from the office of the president of the united states twitter account with the US office of global communications because this would be internet communications and I know they cant give me what twitter deleted.

Proving felonious actions on the part of twitter incorporated.

I might get a run around. I might get told to ask this or that office but that doesn't matter. I'm a US citizen with the inabliable right to the public records of my government officals. If said records cant be produced because a corperation thought themselves above us law as they reside and doing bussiness in the USA... no. Nah, na-uh, that shit dont fly in a codified civil republic. U.S.C.C. petard. Get hoisted on it.

I dont know what those two tweets were. Ive made the request. If it cant be honored then a crime must be followed up upon.

to say nothing of everything else in the article presented in the link.

If he is trully gonna "drain the swamp" And not give us the Pence

Well then...All the peices on the board are perfectly arranged for check mate.

Sorry about the broken link. Ya may have to copy and paste it

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2021-01-09   23:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28)

nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the- chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2021-01-09   23:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

Do be shy or scared of responding. Pence cast his lot with deep state. Im a nobodynthay cast my lot. Then theirs the Nevada rnc commitee with their word.

We dont have to silent amongst ourselves. Be brave. Speak up.

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2021-01-10   1:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: titorite (#30)

I'd rather expect that Pence is just looking forward to retirement so he never has to set foot in DC ever again.

Pinguinite  posted on  2021-01-10   1:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#26)

No, the decider/chimperor didn't have us on speed-dial. I never voted for him and I highly doubt that .222 did either.

I would never have voted for a "Bush" a "Clinton" or an "Obama." I actually quit voting after I voted for Nixon. I have been sure of Bush and others being involved in murdering Kennedy for many, many years. I spoke against D.C. and the Bush family forever.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-10   6:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: titorite (#28)

The deep state exists and has for a very long time. The COG (continuity of Govt) has also been around for a long time and their fingerprints are on almost every foul activity ever conducted in the name of America and many that were conducted without any fanfare.

When I moved to Texas I noticed that several locals had been placed in intelligence jobs by the military that wouldn't have been my 1st choice. Later I decided maybe they were right for the job because they were brought up to be "super" patriotic and would follow any order given in the name of the USA. This is dangerous when the military conducts unjustifiable activities which they have become accustomed to do all of the time now.

One factor that keeps nagging at me consistently is the lack of both political parties to really do anything about the social media CORPORATIONS censoring, removing, deleting and silencing whatever they choose to. Then sometimes a video will clearly be something they would censor but they don't ... all I can say is that everyone should be prepared to eliminate any other actor(s) that attempt to violate them or their family and friends using as much force as is necessary.

We should have enough evidence to either support Trump for the next 4 years or to deal with the Biden Administration as necessary by the 20th unless some waiver regarding the inaugural process is arranged so as to do forensic investigations of election fraud so that Americans know their votes counted.

Everyone knows that Trump won the election yet very few with the ability to arrange for the proper investigation are willing sign off on it. One must question why is that the case ? If this stalemate persists it's equivalent to TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION and an open invitation to a communist complete takeover. I ain't ready for that to happen.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

noone222  posted on  2021-01-10   10:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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