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Title: Gulching - Any Experience Here?
Source: Lonsome Self
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Published: Apr 23, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-04-23 00:31:48 by ...
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I am playing with the idea of surviving with very little money. The way my dad did back in the great depression.

We've put in 100 tomato plants and are planning to can spaghetti sauce and a form of vedgitarian chili for the winter. I've also got a buch of peppers going in and several varieties of squash. The squash will keep through the winter.

A woman down the road raises chickens and she was giving me tips on setting this up. It seems like an amazing amount of work. Buried fences faced with sheet metal to keep out foxes and coyotes. She said she lost 20 of her 50 free range hens to foxes last year in broad daylight. I was going to start with ten chickens just to get the feel of it, but I might shine this one. Still thinking it over. One problem is that is sometimes gets to 50 below here in the winter and this makes even more problems for livestock. She was telling me how a thick paste of chicken shit and sawdust on the floor helps keep the coop warm - bleeech.

Last year I tried out some fish traps in the rivers and they worked great. Illegal as hell, but really effective.

Anybody got any other ideas on crops? I am looking for things that grow and produce all summer and, hopefully, could be sold at a produce stand. Corn and wheat take too much land. Truck farming stuff seems best.

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As to crops to grow, if you get 50 below in winter, I daresay you live in an area of the country or world that has a rather short growing season. You would have to check the area for that because it impacts what could be grown.

Also, things like flowers are good at farmers markets......but again growiing season and growing zones are probably the biggest factors there.

You could build a greenhouse, I would suspect, though it is quesitonable if you could raise enough to 'make a decent income supplement' from it.

And the great thing is to find a MARKET.........or should I say marketing. For instance, back in the 70s, my grandfather had a 5 acre piece of land, and not all was used for gardening by any stretch. But he found a tomator that was really good, colorwise, texture, juiciness, size, etc., and made contact with a casino in Reno. He would drive over there weekly and sell them all his tomatoes. HE did NOT live in climates where it gets 50 below. He staggered his plants so that he could produce tomatoes longer than the normal season. He did quite well with this from a financial standpoint. He certainly made a lot more this way than trying to sell to locals or farmers markets.

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I'd raise chickens for real if I needed them, but I don't know if I want to do it for fun. I've been around them before and they are nasty. Viable commercial operations are beyond belief. My dad wouldn't even eat eggs.

I am located along a busy two lane highway up to the ski, fishing and hiking areas. Lots of traffic in the summer. I was thinking about putting up a stand to sell some of the produce. Probably bring in some other stuff as well. Shelled almonds from Texas is one thing. Maybe bring in some watermelons and cantelope from out on the plains.

Just learned that our tomatos don't qualify as "organic" even if we never use spray on them. The seedlings weren't certified organic so we can't call the fruit that. Oh well. The idea is that you have an operation going that lets you eat and maybe makes a little money to carry itself. If things ever get really tough, you can come here and live an uncomplicated life.

I'm not really afraid of "poop". The guy next door is dumping a big load from his feed lot in our driveway tomorrow. Said he was glad to get rid of it. I will put it on the plants. The cheapest sheep shit I could find was $3.99 for a 50 lb bag. That makes about $500.00 to cover the garden. Will use the neighbors free bull and horse shit instead.

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Do you make a 'tea' out of the sheep shit? I used to have people come to the ranch with 5 gallon buckets to scoop up sheep shit. They would take it home and soak it in water.........and then put the 'tea' on their garden and flowers....they swore by it. I never tried it myself.

I do know that because of the pellets rather than piles their manure is spread naturally over pastures and with rain or irrigation, you get excellent pasture growth. :)

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