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Title: Gulching - Any Experience Here?
Source: Lonsome Self
URL Source: http://None
Published: Apr 23, 2006
Author: ...
Post Date: 2006-04-23 00:31:48 by ...
Keywords: None
Views: 2611
Comments: 67

I am playing with the idea of surviving with very little money. The way my dad did back in the great depression.

We've put in 100 tomato plants and are planning to can spaghetti sauce and a form of vedgitarian chili for the winter. I've also got a buch of peppers going in and several varieties of squash. The squash will keep through the winter.

A woman down the road raises chickens and she was giving me tips on setting this up. It seems like an amazing amount of work. Buried fences faced with sheet metal to keep out foxes and coyotes. She said she lost 20 of her 50 free range hens to foxes last year in broad daylight. I was going to start with ten chickens just to get the feel of it, but I might shine this one. Still thinking it over. One problem is that is sometimes gets to 50 below here in the winter and this makes even more problems for livestock. She was telling me how a thick paste of chicken shit and sawdust on the floor helps keep the coop warm - bleeech.

Last year I tried out some fish traps in the rivers and they worked great. Illegal as hell, but really effective.

Anybody got any other ideas on crops? I am looking for things that grow and produce all summer and, hopefully, could be sold at a produce stand. Corn and wheat take too much land. Truck farming stuff seems best.

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#18. To: ... (#0)

Excellent idea that I highly recommend. I live in the city myself, but I've been growing herbs and am looking to do container gardening (gardening in pots), to grow tomatoes, peppers, etc. I'm sure it won't be enough to keep me going completely but it can supplement a diet. I'm trying to focus on anything that can be canned or pickled. I think it's wise to re-learn how to grow our own food, take care of livestock if we can, and learn how to do extended first aid and use old fashioned home remedies for many ailments. We've become too dependent on a broken system.

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   10:44:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mehitable (#18)

Ma'am...your situation is tailor-made for an Earth Box or three...check the link in #20. These would be GREAT to use where you are located.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   11:36:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mehitable, ... (#22)

Disclaimer: I do NOT work for Earth Box...they are just the best thing I have ever seen for 'container gardening'...bar none. The pictures at their site do NOT exaggerate...my pepper plants were SIX FEET TALL!

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   11:38:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: who knows what evil (#24)

shoot..i don't see asparagus on either of those sites.

christine  posted on  2006-04-23   11:47:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine, mehitable, zipporah, ... (#29)

Enough about Earth Boxes for a minute...'Lodwick' got me turned on to RBN several months ago, and I heard a show promoting sonic bloom a few weeks back. Wonder what kind of 'man-eaters' I could produce if I combined this system with a few Earth Boxes? Anybody have any experience with Sonic Bloom?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   12:08:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: who knows what evil (#33)

Anybody have any experience with Sonic Bloom?

For what it is worth I tried investing in one of those ultrasonic electronic flea collars for my dog quite a few years ago. I was not particularly fond of the idea of treating her conventionally (i.e. poison dips).

After a few days, I saw no signs that it was working. I took one of the fleas (taken from the dog wearing the collar) and put it in a fairly large ziplock bag along with the electronic collar at one end. The flea was not only seemingly happy with it in there, but the next morning he was actually sitting on it.

I ended up using a good old fashioned flea comb multiple times per day. It worked like a charm. Within a month I'd killed off the entire population, even though my vet at the time said I wouldn't be able to. Fleas have a 14 day life cycle. They just couldn't keep up with me. After a month I never needed to use the comb again.

Years later my girlfriend brought a barking dog into my life, a Lhasa Apso. We bought the "Bark Free". It works for some dogs as long as they aren't too stubborn (he was way past stubborn, lol). My dog, for instance, learned on the first bark and would leave the room whenever it was going off. Too bad. She didn't bark much anyway. It too had an "ultrasonic" setting. Neither dog cared about that. I guess that explains why you had the option to have the shrill smoke detector type sound as well. Unfortunately, that sound is worse than the barking. However, if you don't have a stubborn dog, it is worth a try. Then again, if you don't have a stubborn dog, you probably don't have a barking problem.

And then there are the ultrasonic pest repellers. As seen here, ultrasonic waves can't travel through solid surfaces. So even if the product works as advertised (which I highly doubt), I guess the rats will just have to live in your walls. Too bad. That's generally where they want to be anyway, lol.

Needless to say, I'm skeptical of any "sonic" technologies now. I hear "sonic" and immediately think "scam".

Electronic Pest Devices
I provide monthly mouse control services at a private house. The location is in the crawlspace. The owner has an ultrasonic pest repeller device in the crawlspace, pointed at the area where I have my snap traps maintained. The device is always on, and about 6 feet away from the 10 or so traps I use, baited with peanut butter. I always capture mice in this location. Obviously the device is not effective.

That's not to say I know anything about the "sonic boom" when it comes to plant growth, just offering other "sonic" experiences I have had.

markm0722  posted on  2006-04-23   16:27:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: markm0722 (#51)

I took one of the fleas (taken from the dog wearing the collar) and put it in a fairly large ziplock bag along with the electronic collar at one end. The flea was not only seemingly happy with it in there, but the next morning he was actually sitting on it.

hahahahahahaha..lol

christine  posted on  2006-04-23   17:56:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: christine (#64)

hahahahahahaha..lol

I swear the story is true. Maybe I was missing the point. Perhaps the flea collar is not supposed to be put on the dog. Perhaps you put it in an opened ziplock bag near the dog. As seen in a hypothetical Ronco commercial...

So what do you do?
Zip it and toss it.
That's it? That's all I have to do?
Absolutely! The fleas will be drawn to the bag.
So i just zip the bag and then throw it out?
You zip it and toss it.
That sounds very easy. I just zip it and toss it. I like that.
It is a real time saver and your pets will love it.
What about the flea collar? Just throw it out as well?
Trust me. After 24 hours you won't need it. Your problem is solved.
All the fleas would be gone. It is a miracle.
And what will you do?
I will zip it and toss it!
Exactly!

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