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Title: Bill Would Make Sale of Sex Toys Illegal In South Carolina
Source: www.independentmail.com
URL Source: http://www.independentmail.com/and/ ... ,1886,AND_8195_4641568,00.html
Published: Apr 21, 2006
Author: By SEANNA ADCOX
Post Date: 2006-04-23 09:20:10 by Mind_Virus
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Views: 138
Comments: 34

Bill Would Make Sale of Sex Toys Illegal In South Carolina

By SEANNA ADCOX The Associated Press April 21, 2006

COLUMBIA — Lucy’s Love Shop employee Wanda Gillespie said she was flabbergasted that South Carolina’s Legislature is considering outlawing sex toys.

But banning the sale of sex toys is actually quite common in some Southern states.

The South Carolina bill, proposed by Republican Rep. Ralph Davenport, would make it a felony to sell devices used primarily for sexual stimulation and allow law enforcement to seize sex toys from raided businesses.

"That would be the most terrible thing in the world," said Ms. Gillespie, an employee the Anderson shop. "That is just flabbergasting to me. We are supposed to be in a free country, and we’re supposed to be adults who can decide what want to do and don’t want to do in the privacy of our own homes."

Ms. Gillespie, 49, said she has worked in the store for nearly 20 years and has seen people from every walk of life, including "every Sunday churchgoers."

"I know of multiple marriages that sex toys have sold because some people need that. The people who are riding us (the adult novelty industry) so hard are probably at home buying it (sex toys and novelties) on the Internet. It’s ridiculous." The measure would add sex toys to the state’s obscenity laws, which already prohibit the dissemination and advertisement of obscene materials.

People convicted under obscenity laws face up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

South Carolina law borrows from a 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling to define obscene as something "contemporary community standards" determine as "patently offensive" sexual conduct, which "lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value."

Sugar ‘N Spice manager Pat Irons says a proposal to outlaw the sale of sex toys in South Carolina is outrageous.

While Davenport’s proposal is probably aimed at shutting down X-rated adult bookstores, Ms. Irons said, it hurts customers of "couples-oriented" stores such as her West Columbia shop, which sells everything from lingerie to bridal shower novelties to lotions.

At Sugar ‘N Spice, sex toys are displayed in a separate room. Buyers include men and women who "need a little help" because surgery or medical problems are affecting their marriage, Ms. Irons said.

"We’ve been selling these sex toys for 27 years," she said Friday. "Even pastors shop in here. They send couples in here they counsel for marriage problems. It’s probably going to hit people like that harder than people realize."

A Townville sex shop owner questioned the proposal’s legality.

"I don’t think that would be fair," said John Terezakis, owner of Paradise! in Townville. "It’s depriving people of their freedom of choice. I don’t think the customers would appreciate it very much."

Rep. Davenport, who is from Spartanburg County, did not return several messages Friday to talk about his bill, which was introduced last month. No other legislator has signed on as a co-sponsor and its passage this year seems unlikely.

Recent police raids in Rep. Davenport’s county have targeted adult-oriented businesses.

The sheriff’s office there seized movies, sex toys, sexual-enhancement pills and surveillance tapes from two businesses in January.

One of the stores, Priscilla’s, sued the sheriff’s office, claiming the raid violated constitutional rights and asked for the return of the seized items. Sheriff Chuck Wright refused.

The case has not yet gone to trial, Maj. Dan Johnson said.

Maj. Johnson said he knew nothing of Rep. Davenport’s proposal and was unsure how it could help their investigations, which involve undercover detectives renting movies or buying magazines and prosecutors determining whether they’re obscene.

"We’re focused on the hard-core magazines, videos ... the hard-core porn," he said.

Other states that ban the sell of sex toys include Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Texas, said Mark Lopez, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union.

Alabama’s law banning the sale of sex toys has been circulating through the courts since its passage in 1998. U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith Jr. twice ruled against the law, holding that it violated the constitutional right to privacy, but the state won both times on appeal.

In February 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case, which is back in the lower courts.

"People think it’s distasteful. It makes for good campaign fodder and panders to the conservative side of people. That’s why we see the laws in the South," Mr. Lopez said.

The ACLU got involved in the case, he said, to "keep the government out of the bedroom."

Though the laws don’t punish people for owning sex toys, banning their sale is a backdoor attempt to discourage their use, Mr. Lopez said.

"People have a fundamental right to engage in lawful sexual practices in the privacy of their home," Mr. Lopez said. "It’s not like this stuff is available in Macy’s. Kids aren’t allowed in. You or I wouldn’t accidentally walk into one."

Anderson Independent-Mail reporter Samantha Epps contributed to this story.

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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

Who on earth is pushing this insanity?? What harm does it do anyone.. compared that is to the good?? ;P

But seriously WTF is up with this?? This has to be coming from somewhere??

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   9:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#1)

Well, you know, if the fake stuff is outlawed, there's always the real stuff, and that's free.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-04-23   9:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#1)

This has to be coming from somewhere??

You can probably start looking here -

BJU

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-04-23   9:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

Well, you know, if the fake stuff is outlawed, there's always the real stuff, and that's free.

LOL!.. Hmm how to put this.. with the fake stuff there's batteries attached with real stuff.. strings ;P

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   10:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Arete (#3)

Maybe that's the problem.. the acronym..;P

But seriously someone is pushing this agenda.. it's moronic IMO..

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   10:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#1)

But seriously WTF is up with this?? This has to be coming from somewhere??

I've been lobbying for this ever since the energizer bunny came along and competition became too stiff.

He just keeps going and going and going....(or coming and coming and coming)

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-04-23   10:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#1)

What was Mencken's definition of a Puritan? Someone who's afraid that somewhere somebody else is having some fun?

This shows how screwed up large segements of the American populace still are about sex. You shouldn't have to justify buying these things for medical or counseling purposes. What if you just happen to enjoy them? As long as they're not publicly displayed and kids can't buy them, who the hell cares?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   10:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Hmmmmm (#6)

've been lobbying for this ever since the energizer bunny came along and competition became too stiff.

He just keeps going and going and going....(or coming and coming and coming)

LOL!!!! hahahaha! SO we have YOU to blame huh? ;P

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   10:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

yeah, this is a real serious issue for legislators to be concerned about. why can't these freaks stay out of people's bedrooms?

"Of the corporate elites, by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites" - it's what America is all about. Now send your kids off to fight and die in Iraq so that corporate pigs get everything and we get nothing. What else have we ever fought for?~~Elliott J

christine  posted on  2006-04-23   10:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#8)

It's a job security thing, same reason we need to close the border, to keep the ******* ******** (latin lovers) out.

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-04-23   10:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mehitable (#7)

What was Mencken's definition of a Puritan? Someone who's afraid that somewhere somebody else is having some fun?

This shows how screwed up large segements of the American populace still are about sex. You shouldn't have to justify buying these things for medical or counseling purposes. What if you just happen to enjoy them? As long as they're not publicly displayed and kids can't buy them, who the hell cares?

Its nuts.. also what came to mind are the people those who have disabilities those who have little if any chance to have a relationship.. These people are so screwed up.. I dont get it I really dont..and I dont get that legislators are actually considering this much less passing these laws??

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   10:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hmmmmm (#10)

It's a job security thing, same reason we need to close the border, to keep the ******* ******** (latin lovers) out.

LOL! I never thought about it quite like that.. ;P

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   10:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#4)

Well, you know, if the fake stuff is outlawed, there's always the real stuff, and that's free. LOL!.. Hmm how to put this.. with the fake stuff there's batteries attached with real stuff.. strings ;P

I just looked. Nope, no strings.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-04-23   11:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: YertleTurtle (#13)

I just looked. Nope, no strings.

Oh my.. ;P

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   11:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#11)

THere's a lot of fear in Bushland - that seems to be their main commodity. I think these people must live in terror of anyone who's different from them, or wants or enjoys different things. The only safe way to live is for everyone to be the same everywhere. Isn't that part of the "reasoning" behind this nonsense about liberating Iraq? that deep down inside they're just the same as us, or we can make them the same?

They also seem to have a big problem with just enjoying life. I mean, how on earth can any life loving person, who enjoys good food, sex, wine, playing with kittens - whatever - actually consider blowing up thousands of Iraqis or possibly killing millions of Iranians? To even consider doing things like that to people who have done nothing to you, shows me a basic rejection of life and the good things in it. These folks are way too focused on their crackpot ideas of the after life and what Jesus would do? Jesus would tell them to have a glass of wine and chill out.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   11:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

allow law enforcement to seize sex toys from raided businesses.

Cops always have the best sex toys.

In February 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case, which is back in the lower courts.

But that was the correct decision.


No one is more miserable than the person who wills everything and can do nothing.
-- Claudius
According to the socionomic uncertainty principle, the clearer our view of the situation, the less we can do to alter it.
Truth then is not beauty; it is serenity, reserved to the stoic.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-04-23   12:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#9)

why can't these freaks stay out of people's bedrooms?

Possession remains legal.


No one is more miserable than the person who wills everything and can do nothing.
-- Claudius
According to the socionomic uncertainty principle, the clearer our view of the situation, the less we can do to alter it.
Truth then is not beauty; it is serenity, reserved to the stoic.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-04-23   12:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

The South Carolina bill, proposed by Republican Rep. Ralph Davenport, would make it a felony to sell devices used primarily for sexual stimulation and allow law enforcement to seize sex toys from raided businesses.

Imagine that, not being able to own a gun or vote just because you sold someone a dildo. Absurd reasons are used to eliminate the rights guaranteed under the Constituion, yet "convicted felons" get no sympathy from most people.

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-04-23   12:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tauzero (#17)

Possession remains legal.

For now. What happens when someone orders over the Internet or imports some new toy from another state? I'm sure it won't stop where it currently stands.

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-04-23   12:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#19)

What happens when someone orders over the Internet or imports some new toy from another state?

Thank God for the internet?

I'm sure it won't stop where it currently stands.

Perhaps not. As I reside in Illinois, this concerns me no more than the laws of Iran do.


No one is more miserable than the person who wills everything and can do nothing.
-- Claudius
According to the socionomic uncertainty principle, the clearer our view of the situation, the less we can do to alter it.
Truth then is not beauty; it is serenity, reserved to the stoic.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-04-23   12:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

I find it interesting that I had PLENTY of 'sex toy' outlets to choose from in Tennessee, but I can't find one ANYWHERE here in 'pagan' New England. This is just another in a long list of reasons why I am a 'non-denominational, mind my own business, not part of any organized religion' Christian. Geez, you uptight busybodies...WHERE in the Bible is this forbidden? (At least between married couples?) Right here, Baptists...read it and weep: "Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed UNDEFILED..." Hebrews 13:4. Do these idiots want to outlaw orgasms next??? From the perspective of a married couple...what makes any of this YOUR business?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   12:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

Republican Rep. Ralph Davenport...

By the way, Representaive Davenport...there are a KAJILLION 'illegal aliens' running loose in your state...maybe YOU should worry about the financial impact they are having on YOUR citizens, rather than worrying about somebody else's wife having an orgasm without your knowledge. Jackass. (Methinks someone in the SC State Legislature isn't "getting any". But they sure love to talk about it...)

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   12:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mehitable (#15)

These folks are way too focused on their crackpot ideas of the after life and what Jesus would do? Jesus would tell them to have a glass of wine and chill out.

Uh-oh........you just did the unpardonable!!! I'll have you know Jesus DID NOT make wine--he just provided a grape punch for that weeklong wedding celebration!

ROTFLMAO! These types of people would simply choke to death before admitting that Jesus ate, slept, went potty, burped, or enjoyed a glass of wine. He didn't come to earth to be some sort of freak--he came in the human body. Last I knew, what goes in has to come out.....but as I say, these folks would choke.

In this studying the Bible, I simply laugh every time there is mention of vineyards and wine because I know the commentarians are gonna swear up and down it was grape juice. They don't even have the brains of a frog to realize that God did NOT condemn wine, he condemned drunkedness. Hells bells, God provided the land and the rains to grow the grapes!

There is no reaching into these peoples brains. Sort of like the stupid yahoos saying Jesus wouldn't go in a bar. Really? He didn't come to be with 'perfect' people, he came to find the lost sinners. What is so hard about understanding that? I swear, they have woodrot for brains!

And regarding these sex toys, potions, lotions, negligees and the like. These same idjuts have obviously never read the racy Song of Solomon. :) And if they did read it, they just rushed thru it, closing their eyes when breasts were mentioned, or the look of love, or the rising passions!

rowdee  posted on  2006-04-23   16:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rowdee (#23)

I don't know how these people imagine Jesus. Like George Bush? Or one of their crackpot preachers? Jesus could have been ANYTHING, but he chose to be a poor man living with ordinary people, eating their food and drinking their wine. He went to parties, he did his work up until he started preaching, he liked kids. I don't recall other than chasing out the money lenders that Jesus recommended killing or bombing people. He went around healing the sick and crippled and never took a dime for the work. Maybe he took the occcasional gift of oil, or food and shelter for the night, but he never became a rich man. When they came to attack him, he stuck the servant's ear back on. Doesn't sound much like a typical Bible belter to me. I don't know how they are so screwed up about Jesus, he seems pretty straight forward to me. And Jesus didn't like hypocrits or people who couldn't mind their own business.

How do they get it so wrong? It's not like Jesus was a complicated guy. He was pretty simple and direct.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   17:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rowdee (#23)

Uh-oh........you just did the unpardonable!!! I'll have you know Jesus DID NOT make wine--he just provided a grape punch for that weeklong wedding celebration!

oooooh....now I understand!!! It was really grape flavored Kool Aid! That's why the Bushbots are so partial to it.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   17:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mehitable (#24)

Or one of their crackpot preachers?

Speaking of crackpot preachers did you see this???!

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24493&Disp=0

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   17:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Zipporah (#26)

ROFLMAO!!!! Who the hell is that crazy bastard? Is he a real preacher? He swears more than my sixth grade nun did.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-04-23   17:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: rowdee (#23)

They don't even have the brains of a frog to realize that God did NOT condemn wine, he condemned drunkedness.

Man, do I take it in the neck when I bring this up to my fire-breathing Christian relatives. These are the same ones that think I am the oddball because I won't observe Easter or Christmas because I don't believe G-d commands us to. It's lots of fun...

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   17:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mehitable (#24)

I dunno where they came up with it either.

rowdee  posted on  2006-04-23   17:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mehitable (#25)

ROTFLMAO! You rock, lady, you rock. :) Koolaid, indeed!

rowdee  posted on  2006-04-23   17:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: who knows what evil (#28)

Aha! Another one that marches with two left feet! :)

I don't believe Christ was born on Christmas. And if he was, the day has been so bastardized with all the commercialization that I don't celebrate it. It's a race to exploit Jesus Christ for a $ or two.

That said, I thank God daily for his son, Christ my savior.

I think we celebrate the wrong day as 'Easter'...I celebrate His resurrection because.

rowdee  posted on  2006-04-23   17:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: rowdee (#31)

Aha! Another one that marches with two left feet! :)

Yeah...we're out here.

That said, I thank God daily for his son, Christ my savior.

Agreed.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-04-23   17:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mehitable (#27)

ROFLMAO!!!! Who the hell is that crazy bastard? Is he a real preacher? He swears more than my sixth grade nun did.

Yeah he is a preacher apparently?!! Like Elliot said you'd think a lightening bolt would come down and fly his 'ass' but all he was doing was axing a question or two.. ;P

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-04-23   18:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mehitable, rowdee (#25)

Uh-oh........you just did the unpardonable!!! I'll have you know Jesus DID NOT make wine--he just provided a grape punch for that weeklong wedding celebration!

oooooh....now I understand!!! It was really grape flavored Kool Aid! That's why the Bushbots are so partial to it.

Seriously, though, there are some Bible-banging "Evangelical" fools that don't want to believe that Jesus drank wine or made wine into "Sanguis Christi"---His blood. You're wasting your breath if you try to explain to them that grapes can't be harvested year round (not before the global economy anyway) and that juice pressed from grapes *will* ferment *naturally* (i.e., in accordance with God's plan) into wine, or it won't keep and you won't be able to drink it. No, they prefer to believe that Jesus got a couple of cans of Welch's grape juice concentrate from the frozen foods section of the local souk for the Last Supper.

"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God." ---Thomas Jefferson

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-04-23   21:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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