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Title: Mega-investors punished with $70 BILLION LOSSES as GameStop and other shorted firms see stock surge data analysts
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URL Source: https://nationalpreview.com/mega-in ... see-stock-surge-data-analysts/
Published: Jan 29, 2021
Author: Mike Rivero
Post Date: 2021-01-29 14:48:56 by Horse
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Views: 199
Comments: 32

Short-selling investors lost a staggering $70.8 billion this month, according to financial data analytics firm Ortex. Their losses were partly driven by small traders pumping money into stocks like GameStop.

Short-sellers lost $70.87 billion on US companies this year so far, according to analysis from Ortex reported by Reuters on Thursday. To put the loss in perspective, $70.87 billion is half a billion dollars more than the GDP of Slovenia, according to CIA statistics.

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#1. To: Horse, 4um (#0)

Their losses were partly driven by small traders pumping money into stocks like GameStop.

Don't think that this was just a bunch of video gamers that precipitated this, there were plenty of big boys from competing companies involved.

The video gamers will be the ones held accountable though. Financial Terrorists.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   15:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso (#1) (Edited)

The video gamers will be the ones held accountable though. Financial Terrorists.

They need to have someone handy to hang that rap on, and the video gamers would be SO convenient. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-29   15:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#2)

FBI guys...

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   15:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#0)

Whenever I read the “smart guys” talking about GME, they always add “failing game retailer” or “low value company” or some crap like that. If you consider that as of this moment the company’s brand recognition is very high, it’s reputation as the hero in a David v Goliath story is established, and it is now about 10x as well capitalized as it was a month ago, I think that analysis is very wrong. Events of the past week have added immense value to the company itself. Will the stock fall to some equilibrium? Most likely yes. Will it then perhaps establish itself as a major player in online game retail, or even other products? It might. It might, in fact, become a major player.

I wouldn’t bet against the gamer nerds.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-29   17:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn, 4um (#4)

Point well taken. I never looked at it from that direction.

I still think a lot of inexperienced investors are going to be left holding an empty bag.

The "big boys" won't make the same mistake twice. I'm wondering how this series of events will affect my brokerage accounts after the glut of new legislation passes.

Sorry, we don't need no stinking legislation, we've got rule by EOs now.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   18:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#0)

Would somebody please just sum up this GameStop business.... please?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-29   18:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NeoconsNailed, 4um (#6)

Would somebody please just sum up this GameStop business.... please?

Are you sure you really want that? It's really complicated. And ugly.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   18:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ghostdogtxn, 4um (#4)

I wouldn’t bet against the gamer nerds.

Dawg, I'm certainly not questioning you, but there's a lot more players involved. The gamers don't have the juice to move markets this way.

Look behind the curtain at companies B, C, D, thru X that are in the shadows. Details are leaking out slowly.

It's Friday-News-Dump night. Some details may come out tonight when we're not supposed to be looking. Regardless, the event should end by the end of next week except for the minor players (gamers) that will be the scapegoats.

I've been wrong before, getting to be a habit in CrazyWorld.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   18:50:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#7)

Yes, I do. Why would anybody mess with this company? I see it's based in Texas -- might enter in. (High rollers hate Dixie.)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-29   18:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#6)

Sum up ...

Okay. Hedge funds engage in short-selling. Short-selling is when you borrow against a stock, promising to produce that stock on a call date, some fixed time in the future. If the stock loses value by the call date, you buy the now cheaper stock at its new price, pocketing the difference between the earlier date and the call date. So it is basically a bet that the stock will go down. This is called a short sale, or shorting the stock. In order to ensure that the stock loses value, they publish the fact they have shorted the stock, and explain why it is going to fall in value. This becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, as other people dump the stock, thinking it will lose value.

In the case of GameStop, they shorted more stock than was actually in existence, the idea being that they could buy the stock for pennies on the dollar, with the intention of de capitalizing the company into bankruptcy, as most publicly traded companies depend on the value of their stock to operate. The company-held stock is collateral for loans, and the company can issue new stock for more operating cost. If the stock has a falling value, this adds stress on the company, further driving it into financial ruin.

Well, a bunch of video game nerds, who of course love GameStop and happen to write a Reddit on the stock market, saw what the hedge funds were doing to their beloved store, and got pissed. They started BUYING the stock, driving the price UP. The hedge funds have to buy and produce the stock on the call date, NO MATTER how much it costs. As the price goes up, they have to use their fund assets to cover the difference, their anticipated gain becomes a loss; a loss only limited by the price of GameStop shares on the call date.

The share price of GameStop went up by several thousand percent, from $20/share to $300/share. Suddenly the hedge funds were bleeding out and the nerds were turning $1000 investments into $60,000 profits. The nerds demolished the hedge funds, all the company held stock refinanced the company, and GameStop stock is the hottest commodity in the market.

But the nerds weren’t finished. They saw many other companies that are similarly being shorted. They are buying stock in those companies, driving up those prices, and destroying short-sellers all over Manhattan. This is called a “short squeeze”, when you put the balls of the short-sellers in a Vice of rising share prices, and squeeze them into bankruptcy.

It is the ultimate revenge of the nerds.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-29   19:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#8)

...gamers don’t have the juice ...

True, although there are six million of them in Robin Hood, and they all have stimulus checks. What happens is that the gamer nerds get the train moving, then all the normal investors and day traders jump on the train, not wanting to miss a profit-taking opportunity. It only takes a few lunatics to get a mob going.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-29   19:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#11)

a few lunatics

We had a Foreman on the State Highways they called Lunatic Lindwall. He was a Marine on Iwo Jima during WW II.

One day he came into the yard to get cold patch put on his pick up. The guy comes with the end loader with a scoop of cold patch.

Lindwall was directing him. One of the guys on his crew was telling the guy in loader, "Dump it! Dump it!" He did and Lindwall got hot.

The guy in loader asked the guy on ground, "What's he so hot about?"

The guy on the ground said, "You'd be hot too if your bottle just got buried."

On another occasion were doing maintenance on bridge bearings. The Lead Lead Worker pulled up in his pick up with the Engineer in the truck with him. They called him down from under the bridge.

They said to him, "Bob, if you have a problem with alcohol, we'll get you help."

It really was no secret. :-/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-29   19:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed, 4um (#9)

Why would anybody mess with this company?

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. The ultimate God at the end of the World.

I'm not really in the mood to talk about it much tonight, and I'm just starting to realize that the rabbit hole is deep and the truth isn't really out yet. So I'm gonna tell you a little story instead...

A couple of days ago, I went to the grocery store for my semi-monthly food run.

The Kroger at Georgetown (neighborhood, affluent, w word) and did my shopping. I was kinda surprised at the number of multi-cultural food stamp types there. Since I go to the grocery so seldom (I have two deep-freezers), I forgot a bunch of things, one really important.

I decided to go out again to get the important stuff, but went to the store in New Haven (town, w trash, not affluent, blue collar) and decided to peruse the whole store since I wasted the gas and time. I'm glad I did.

I found a great deal on real beef steaks at about a third of the going rate. I bought two family paks and the stuff I forgot. I was bored and went home.

I pondered on why this Kroger was about giving away $20/lb steaks when the Georgetown location wasn't. You followin' me?

Money. The splibs are invading Georgetown with their food stamps, while the working stiffs in NH are foregoing things to survive. (It's a w/b thing I guess). Not many welfare types in NH. Kroger is giving it away to fellas like me rather than throw it away.

I still forgot stuff and was bored, so I went back again to NH today, I liked the company (w folks) a lot better, and got another batch of steaks. Crap when WuFlu started, beef was almost unpossible (sp) to get. I haven't had real meat in a year.

I probably shouldn't be allowed to go to the store without adult supervision. I had fun and I always pay my way. Always have. Bought a lot of stuff I shouldn't have. Helped out a few folks along the way too. Still do.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   19:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#13)

Helped out a few folks along the way too. Still do.

I noticed that about you. Muchos gracias. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-29   19:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#1)

Don't think that this was just a bunch of video gamers that precipitated this, there were plenty of big boys from competing companies involved.

You could most certainly be spot on. And when I first saw this story, I believed it was tge beginning of the planned takedown of Americas economy.

The reaction to this tells me its populist, and they were not prepared.

Just like Trump winning. Ya, that last bit will ruffle some.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn, 4um (#11)

True, although there are six million of them in Robin Hood, and they all have stimulus checks.

Right again, Dawg, I hadn't considered that due to the fact that I didn't get stimulus payments this year. I had a little misadventure in 2019 that ran my AGI about 70k above nominal that didn't come to light until 2020.

You should've been here the third time my taxes had to be redone by my TaxBabe (I wish I was 40 years younger). You can't imagine the trouble that caused with my ObamaCare (I paid the penalties). I would've called you, but I figured there must be some legal-beagles here in HoosierHickistan.

Gonna be a wild ride in 2021. I don't think I've had any tax events happen this year, I only had one little sister. Christa (TaxBabe) and me should be good to go for one whack this year, tax speaking, unfortunately.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   20:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#4) (Edited)

Meh.

Honestly, the short sell was very warranted..

I have a nice gaming PC which is collecting dust, it doesn’t even have a CD slot. Everything is geared to you ‘buying’ a bunch of bits over teh interweb and downloading.

You will own nothing, and you will be happy..

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dead Culture Watch, 4um (#17) (Edited)

I have a nice gaming PC which is collecting dust, it doesn’t even have a CD slot. Everything is geared to you ‘buying’ a bunch of bits over teh interweb and downloading.

I have an old GameBoy rattling around in the museum somewhere, never used. I was told they're "collectibles" or something. Be still my beating heart.

I have an old Wollensak cold war, tube type reel-to-reel recorder somewhere in the attic of my shop from the 50s along with the family recordings that my Dad and his brother used to send back and forth from FW, IN to SD, CA in the 60s. I'm sure the tapes are in great shape, dust.

Ooooh, I'm gonna be rich. Meh. "I'm already rich, Roy."

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   20:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

Thanks for that clear explanation, counselor.

What is your take on Robinhood's halting buying of GameStop to protect Citadel hedge fund? A violation of the law? -- or something that Robinhood could do with impunity due to something in the fine print of their terms of service? Other?

StraitGate  posted on  2021-01-29   20:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ghostdogtxn, 4um (#10)

Awesome explanation, Dawg, but the game's not quite over yet. Where it ends up, nobody knows, but I smell new laws (against peons).

$20/share to $300/share.

FWIW, GME was about $5 04Jan2021 and it hit a pre-market high of a little over $500 a day or so ago. Pre/post market trading is risky as hell, especially if the equity is in play.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   20:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Esso (#18)

Holy crap. I love reel to reels.

From the fifties? Wow. Do not want to know what someone would pay for that. Had to have been first gen. Nice my bro.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Esso (#20)

FWIW, GME was about $5 04Jan2021 and it hit a pre-market high of a little over $500 a day or so ago. Pre/post market trading is risky as hell, especially if the equity is in play.

Oh ya, please, do NOT get me wrong. These fu king vultures need to drink deep from a poisonous oasis.

Its the oasis they made. Its absolutely glorious.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#22)

This is the story of the month. If this gains the momentum it could.... holy shit.

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: StraitGate (#19)

Badges? We dont need no stinking badges!

GRAB LIFE BY THE PUSSY!

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2021-01-29   20:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Dead Culture Watch (#24)

Reminds me of the story I read about a guy who won a million dollar payoff on a slot machine. The casino refused to pay, claiming that the machine had malfunctioned.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-01-29   21:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: StraitGate (#25)

I hope that he sued, and won, treble damages from what I assume are hook-nose turds.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-01-29   22:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

Well that sounds fantastic -- real people power! Activism -- at least somebody's willing to fight back on something. Thanks so much for writing all that -- it's perfectly clear and lucid. If you're gathering I have zero experience playing the market, you're right

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-29   22:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

Well that sounds fantastic -- real people power! Activism -- at least somebody's willing to fight back on something. Thanks so much for writing all that -- it's perfectly clear and lucid. If you're gathering I have zero experience playing the market, you're right.

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-29   22:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dead Culture Watch, 4um (#21)

Do not want to know what someone would pay for that. Had to have been first gen. Nice my bro.

Come get it. It's got some really neat machining on it. It worked when it was put away. Fran knows how to fix it, but he/she says her lab is full.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-01-29   23:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dead Culture Watch (#15)

Just like Trump winning. Ya, that last bit will ruffle some.

I was on Hillary's Facebook page after Trump was declared the winner in 2016.

I said, "I can't believe you all voted for the sickly and corrupt Hillary."

That comment really burst their bubbles and they got on me hard.

I voted for a winner again in 2020 but Trump had the election stolen from him by computerized voting machines. Dominion machines were developed so Chavez on Venezuela would NEVER LOSE another election.

One precinct was caught by a hidden camera where the Republican poll watchers were kicked out of the polling place. Then boxes of ballots were pulled out from under the table and they were run thru the tabulation machines.

I am guessing this is the reason some precincts had more votes than registered voters.

In another instance equal numbers of Trump and Biden ballots were run thru a Dominion machine and the results came back as 60% Biden to 40% Trump.

Those results were altered by the algorithms programmed into the machines.

I also heard that Marine Guards are turning their backs on Biden since they know he is not the legitimate President. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-30   9:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#10) (Edited)

Gamer nerds

Gamestop wasnt the choosen target because were fond of gamestop.

People hate gamestop! Fuck them! They buy back your used game for 5 bucks store credit and put it back on the shelf for 40.

But that 147% short was irresistible. Any ijoot could see that. Power to the people. I like that stock.

Sidenote

MtG, magic the gathering, a card game is also heavily sold through gamestop among other places like walmart toyRus ect etc , BUT been been queitly talking about and watching mtg sales. ;) it's something to keep your eye on as they are heavily moved through gamestop stores

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2021-01-30   9:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: StraitGate (#19)

I think they got tangled up in SEC collateral requirements.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-30   13:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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