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Title: John Demjanjuk: The US autoworker accused of being Nazi death camp criminal Ivan the Terrible
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URL Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ ... ncentration-camp-a9185856.html
Published: Nov 5, 2019
Author: Colin Drury
Post Date: 2021-01-30 11:14:50 by BTP Holdings
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John Demjanjuk: The US autoworker accused of being Nazi death camp criminal Ivan the Terrible

Family man living in Cleveland twice found guilty of holocaust atrocities features in new Netflix series

by Colin Drury

Tuesday 05 November 2019 18:03

In the tight-knit Ukrainian community of Cleveland, John Demjanjuk was known as a church-going family man.

He worked hard at the city’s Ford motor plant for more than 20 years and had three children. He was quiet, it was said, but friendly.

What his neighbours, colleagues and friends could never have guessed was that this shy bespectacled man may well have had the darkest of secrets.

During the Second World War, he was, it now seems likely, a Nazi concentration camp guard of such notorious sadism that he became known as Ivan The Terrible.

Among his most shocking actions were hacking the ears and noses off Jews as they were led to the gas chambers, a court eventually heard. He took particular glee in flogging women and children, it was told.

Now, a new Netflix series exploring the still-baffling case of Demjanjuk has once again raised the question of just who this quiet Cleveland resident was and what exactly he did before his arrival in the US in 1952?

The series – called The Devil Next Door – is not the first time the question has been addressed.

As with the streaming service’s The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann documentary, much of what is included will be well known to those familiar with the story.

Yet the mystery of Demjanjuk – who was convicted of holocaust atrocities twice in two different countries but saw one conviction overturned and died with his appeal of the second pending – remains grimly fascinating.

What we do know about him for sure is that he was born in Ukraine in 1920, was drafted into the Soviet Red Army in 1940, and was captured by the Nazis in 1942. A decade later, he arrived in Cleveland, a married father and with enough mechanical know-how to get his job at Ford.

What we don’t know is what exactly happened in the years between his capture and the end of the war.

Demjanjuk maintained until his death in 2012 that he had been a prisoner at a labour camp before being forced to work as a guard and then fight for the Nazis.

Yet evidence suggests he actually volunteered to work at the notorious Treblinka and Sobibor extermination camps in Poland, where his horrific brutality, even amidst genocide, earned him his chilling “terrible” nickname.

It was in the late 1970s that the US government first announced its suspicions about this role in the Holocaust before revoking his citizenship and, in 1981, extraditing him to Israel for a drawn-out and high-profile trial.

There, several survivors of Treblinka identified him as Ivan the Terrible.

“I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt,” said one, Eliyahu Rosenberg. “It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now… I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes.”

He was found guilty and sentenced to death in 1988 – yet was sensationally acquitted in 1993 after new evidence came to light that it may have been a case of mistaken identity.

He was freed and returned to the US, yet questions about his wartime activity would not go away.

In 2002, an American judge ruled there was evidence that he had been a guard at Sobibor and, following complex legal hearings, he was extradited to Germany in 2009 to be tried as an accessory to the murders of 27,900 people.

It was a notoriously difficult hearing – with Demjanjuk’s actions difficult to pin down almost seven decades on.

No surviving witnesses could identify him as being at Sobibor during the Munich trial, meaning the prosecution relied almost entirely on documentary evidence – an SS identity card and recorded Nazi orders most prominent among them.

Yet it was enough to convict. He was found guilty of all charges and sentenced to five years in prison.

Even this, however, was not straightforward in the end. Demjanjuk’s family launched an appeal and were in the middle of that process when he passed away aged 91 at a nursing home.


Poster Comment:

John Demjanjuk was kidnapped by the Israelis and taken to Israel and put on trial as Ivan the Terrible, a concentration camp guard at Treblinka and Sobibor camps in Poland. His conviction in Israel was overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court.

Then he was extradited to Germany and put on trial there. He passed away at the age of 91 in a nursing home before his family could finish the appeal of his conviction in Germany.

This man was done wrong in the most cruel fashion and his life was ruined in the process.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Literature from the time, or at least accounts afterward, talk about how horrible the Ukrainian guards were. No mention is made of the holodomor, or that the Ukrainian guards might have had reasons for their brutality.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-30   13:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

holodomor,

I worked with a Ukrainian-American man. He told me how his Grandmother told him about what happened in Ukraine in 1932-33. He told me they even raked out the root cellars. The Soviet collectivism where they took 90% of the crop was the worst of all. :-/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-30   14:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

When you have time, read on internet about Gareth Jones and the Holodomor.

Cynicom  posted on  2021-01-30   14:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

read on internet about Gareth Jones and the Holodomor.

Many Ukrainians with the will and means to get out of there did so. I will look that up soon. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-30   15:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

“I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt,” said one, Eliyahu Rosenberg. “It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now… I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes.”

Please --- what gas chambers????????????????????

johnj  posted on  2021-01-30   16:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

while you are looking for Jones, look for Walter Duranty, journalist also, same time period. Both wrote about Holodomor, one was a jew...

Cynicom  posted on  2021-01-30   17:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: johnj (#5)

The fake SHOWERS. You herd 1000 jewies into one, drop cyanide pellets from silly square holes in the roof and they all die instantly. Then Nazis come in laffing and smoking to cart the dead off to the crematorium even tho cyanide is hily flammable.

You only have to do this 6,000 times while fighting off half the planet in a war and bingo, they're outta there!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-30   17:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

www.cato.org/blog/mr-jones

Cynicom  posted on  2021-01-30   17:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Germany sinned twice against this man.

Once when it forced Demjanjuk to choose between 1) starving as a Ukrainian POW in a German camp and 2) working for the German military guarding the camps in Poland.

Germany sinned a second time in our day when it falsely sought to convict him in aiding and abetting a genocide.

Germans generally have a deaf ear to that story as well as the facts of his biography. This is equally true of Americans.

We are living in a sea of lies. Untruth is like a thread that you can pick up and tug on, eventually unravelling the rug upon which you stand. That nasty thread can be followed back throughout history, and we can see new ones being spun as we speak.

randge  posted on  2021-01-30   17:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#8)

www.cato.org/blog/mr-jones

I read that at the link. Mr. Jones was an anti-communist movie.

More interesting still are the cameo appearances by George Orwell, David Lloyd George, and William Randolph Hearst.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-30   17:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#10)

I recall Jones was shot in China by Mao.

Cynicom  posted on  2021-01-30   18:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#9)

We are living in a sea of lies ...

Amen.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-01-30   18:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#8)

OMG, a movie about Walter Duranty -- with the Holodomor MENTIONED IN POSTERS? There's got to be hope for the truth somewhere.

Can hardly believe I'm seeing it. Payoff for us who've been keeping it in circulation all this time?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-30   18:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: NeoconsNailed (#13) (Edited)

Can hardly believe I'm seeing it. Payoff for us who've been keeping it in circulation all this time?

Just as bad, the Soviets murdered Polish military officers and intelligentsia in the Katyn Forest which is in Russia west of Smolensk. Many other killings were carried out in Kalinin and Kharkiv prisons. :-/

https://www.bing.com/maps? q=Katyn+Forest+location&cvid=0faa4520f0cd48ff8613a241e24c7a38&pglt=4 3&F ORM=ANNTA1&PC=DCTS

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-01-30   20:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#14)

That is terribly, terribly bad alright. But those are thousands of murders, while Holod is millions -- quite possibly 6 of 'em.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-01-30   21:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

These jew bastards will beat the dead mule as long as they can to keep the lie alive and try to get the world to say: Poor jews.

Darkwing  posted on  2021-01-31   9:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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