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Title: The Deadly Precedent of the Waco Whitewash
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03 ... ecedent-of-the-waco-whitewash/
Published: Mar 23, 2021
Author: James Bovard
Post Date: 2021-03-23 09:32:20 by Ada
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The easiest way to achieve sainthood in Washington is to cover up a federal atrocity. Thus, it is no surprise that former senator John Danforth continues to be treated by the Washington Post as a visionary statesman. The Post showcased Danforth’s attack on Donald Trump in October after Trump derided the Commission on Presidential Debates. Danforth, a permanent member of that commission, is one of the top five “useful idiots for Leviathan,” according to the revised rankings after the death of John McCain. In the 1990s, Danforth received plaudits for being a “moderate” Republican who supported gun control. But his true claim to establishment fame arose from his contortions to suppress the truth about Waco. Danforth appointed himself as the nation’s political faith healer after the biggest federal law-enforcement debacle in modern times. On February 28, 1993, 70 federal Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms agents launched an attack on the home of the Branch Davidians near Waco, Texas. After the assault was rebuffed, the FBI arrived and, on April 19, 1993, sent in tanks that demolished much of the Davidians’ home before a fire broke out. Eighty corpses of men, women, and children were discovered in the wreckage. L'Amour, Louis Best Price: $0.35 Buy New $5.00 (as of 04:17 EDT - Details) Almost nobody in Washington cared about the Texas carnage. Attorney General Janet Reno, who approved the deadly final assault, was labeled a “folk hero” by the Los Angeles Times, and the Washington Post declared that she had “superstar status.” A few days after the fire, the opening of a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing had to be delayed so senators could have their pictures taken with Reno. In 1995, she testified to Congress and shrugged off the FBI’s use of 54-ton tanks to assail the Davidians, declaring that the tanks were “not military weapons…. I mean, it was like a good rent-a-car.” Media coverage of Reno’s showdown with congressional Republicans ignored her rent-a-tank absurdity, instead praising her toughness and demeanor. In 1999, news leaked out that the feds knowingly suppressed information about using pyrotechnics that might have started fires that killed scores of women and children. Reno personally selected Danforth, a golfing buddy of President Bill Clinton, to reinvestigate federal action at Waco. In July 2000, after he was rumored to be on the short list as George W. Bush’s vice presidential pick, Danforth rushed out a preliminary report. Danforth’s report was more pro-FBI than the FBI itself and revived discredited Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms charges that the Justice Department had abandoned six years earlier. No-knock assault After the nation was struck by violent protests this summer after the death of George Floyd, it is worth looking back 20 years to see the system and excuses that were used to absolve law enforcement gone wild. Danforth’s report began by stating that Koresh and the Davidians “shot and killed four [ATF] agents” and “wounded 20 others.” More than 70 agents rolled up to the Davidians’ home in two cattle cars and jumped out shouting “Showtime!” The plan was for one group of agents to break through the front door while a second group took ladders and smashed through the windows on the second floor. The ATF never attempted to present the search warrant. Several ATF agents said that the feds shot first. Danforth made no attempt to determine which side shot first, stating that that was “a matter outside the scope of the Attorney General’s Order to the Special Counsel.” Regardless, since the Davidians had killed and wounded federal agents, they deserved whatever the feds subsequently did to them. Danforth tacitly accepted the notion that a massive federal no-knock assault was necessary to determine whether the Davidians had violated federal prohibitions on converting semi-automatic firearms into firing in fully automatic mode. Buy New $39.99 (as of 04:17 EDT - Details) But Danforth ignored that the premise of the massive ATF attack was itself a complete fraud. Only nine days before the ATF attack, David Koresh had gone target shooting with three undercover ATF agents (whom he recognized as G-men). Koresh “provided the ammunition and the agents handed him their guns,” noted former federal lawyer David Hardy, whose research exposed the ATF memo detailing the target practice six years after the raid. After the raid, the ATF insisted that Koresh never went outside the “compound” — and thus the agency needed to launch a full- scale attack to get him. But Koresh could easily have been arrested while target shooting. Danforth also ignored the evidence that ATF agents shot first as they assaulted the Davidians’ home. Danforth declared that one of the key topics for his investigation was “whether the military was wrongly used” in the assault on the Davidians’ home. Before the February 28 raid, ATF officials were told that it would be illegal for the U.S. military to assist them unless there was a “drug nexus” to the case. A few days later, the ATF notified military officials that — voilà! — they suspected the Davidians had a methamphetamine lab in their basement. ATF agents had zero credible evidence but that didn’t matter. ATF agents then received training in close-quarters combat and called in military helicopters from the Texas National Guard to assist in the assault. (Surviving Davidians alleged that the helicopters fired into their home while ATF agents attacked the front of their building.) Despite the massive assistance the ATF received, the drug charge vanished immediately after the raid, and federal prosecutors never raised the issue at the surviving Davidians’ 1994 trial. A 1996 congressional report concluded that the ATF’s actions during and after the raid made it “clear that the ATF believed that a methamphetamine lab did not exist.” The House report concluded that “the ATF intentionally misled Defense Department and military personnel” regarding the existence of the meth lab. It didn’t matter. Instead, Danforth’s report noted that while “the Office of Special Counsel did not extensively investigate the basis for ATF’s assertion that there was a drug nexus … there is some evidence prior to February 28, 1993, connecting ‘drug activity’ with the complex which could form the basis of a drug nexus.” Danforth’s investigation spent $12 million, didn’t bother investigating whether or not there was any viable evidence of a meth lab, but dredged up the “could form the basis” hokum. This is the same type of flimsy “drug link” that has been used to justify thousands of no-knock raids in subsequent decades. Danforth’s ludicrous revival of the drug charge sufficed to whitewash the militarization of law enforcement. Best Price: $92.28 ($6.41 / oz) Buy New $129.95 ($9.02 / oz) (as of 04:17 EDT - Details) Danforth’s report minimizes or comically misrepresents the amount of force the feds used against the Davidians. FBI agents repeatedly threw flash-bang grenades at Davidians who tried to leave the residence and may have thrown them inside the Davidians’ residence. When Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) asked Danforth about that at a hearing, Danforth replied that flash-bangs are “in the nature, as I understand it, of, you know, firecrackers. They make a flash and they make a bang. And they don’t cause injury, as a general rule.” A 2019 federal appeals court decision noted that flash-bang grenades are “four times louder than a 12-gauge shotgun blast” with “a powerful enough concussive effect to break windows and put holes in walls.” Flash-bangs burn hotter than lava and have started more than a hundred fires across the nation. Some of the section headings in Danforth’s report made Waco sound like a huge law-enforcement success — such as the description of the origins of the FBI tank–gas assault: “The FBI Develops a Tactical Solution to the Standoff.” Tell that to the Marines. After the FBI had gassed the Davidians for more than four hours and exhausted almost its entire gas supply, FBI tank drivers were ordered to demolish the building, even though scores of women and children remained inside. In the next hour, tanks smashed into the residence eight times and collapsed at least one-quarter of the Davidians’ home. The Dallas Morning News summarized government documents on the tank assault: “Just before noon, [FBI on-scene commander Richard] Rogers ordered tanks in front to drive deep [into the building] toward the compound tower. At its base was a concrete room where officials believed the ‘hostiles’ were hiding, records show.” FBI Deputy Director Floyd Clarke admitted in 1995 congressional testimony that “the destruction of the building was part of the ultimate plan” to bring the siege to an end. Despite all this evidence, Danforth concluded that FBI agents never intended to demolish the building. Ignoring the 1993 memo, Danforth accepted at face value the 1995 testimony of FBI on-scene commanders Jeffrey Jamar and Richard Rogers, who insisted that the tanks were not attempting to bring the building down. In the report’s jaw-dropping words, the Office of Special Counsel “is confident the quoted language [in the 1993 memo] is simply incorrect.” Buy New $14.99 (as of 06:10 EST - Details) Danforth was dismissive not only of written evidence but of convincing visual evidence. Waco: Rules of Engagement, a movie that won an Emmy and was nominated for an Academy Award, shows lengthy footage of FBI tanks repeatedly and systematically demolishing much of the building. Harvard Prof. Alan Stone, one of the outside experts the Justice Department tapped in 1993 to examine the incident, concluded, “Some of the government’s actions may have killed people before the fire started. I cannot tell whether the tanks knocked down places where people were already. I don’t know if there were people in there crushed by the collapsing building [as a result of FBI tanks plowing into the structure] before the fire started.” The FBI’s pyrotechnic devices were the hottest item in Danforth’s investigation. Reno had sworn to a congressional committee in 1995 that the FBI used no pyrotechnic devices at Waco. Yet Danforth told a Senate committee that “the use of the pyrotechnics, itself, under these circumstances was not a big thing.” Danforth also assured the senators, “I don’t think that there’s been anybody that I know of connected with the government who has ever believed that the use of pyrotechnics, in this case, had anything to do with the fire.” And what was his proof? The FBI told him so. Regardless of how often the FBI changed its story, its latest version was sacrosanct. Faith in government Danforth’s report noted several cases where federal officials either made false statements or wrongfully withheld key evidence. None of that troubled Danforth. A St. Louis Post-Dispatch headline perfectly summarized his report: “Officials Had Nothing to Hide — But Hid Some Things Anyway.” In the report’s preface, Danforth made bizarre excuses for lying federal officials: “In today’s world, it is perhaps understandable that government officials are reluctant to make full disclosures of information for fear that the result of candor will be personal or professional ruin. Any misstep yields howls of indignation, calls for resignations, and still more investigations.” Danforth vehemently opposed any prosecution of any federal official who misled investigators on Waco from 1993 onwards. Even though numerous agency and congressional investigations had found federal misconduct regarding Waco, Danforth lamented “a nearly universal readiness to believe that the government must have done something wrong. Breaking this vicious circle of distrust and recrimination is essential if we are to rebuild the consent of the governed on which our system depends.” Danforth championed a “move along, nothing to see here” version of “consent of the governed” in which citizens are obliged to swallow unlimited federal malarkey. The lesson of Waco, according to Danforth, was that the burden is on “all of us” to “be more skeptical of those who make sensational accusations of evil acts by government.” Danforth declared that he hoped his report would “begin the process of restoring the faith of the people in their government and the faith of the government in the people.” Danforth believed government officials had been wrongfully victimized by public distrust. That phrase about “restoring … the faith of the government in the people” should have been ridiculed from coast to coast. Danforth masterminded the first investigation into a cover-up that justified the cover-up. That was not surprising, since his goal was not to determine what government did so much as to correct the public’s bad attitude toward the use of tanks against civilians. The Powers That Be hailed Danforth’s report as the ultimate absolution on Waco. FBI Director Louis Freeh declared, “Seven years of absorbing unproven allegations and unfounded criticisms has [sic] levied a heavy burden on the agents who were at Waco and their families as well. This report brings great solace to them in that its findings re-affirm that which we have always believed — they did their best and for all the right reasons.” Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder declared, “We join Senator Danforth in wishing that this report begins the process of restoring the faith of the people in their government.” PBS NewsHour host Jim Lehrer gushed to Danforth on national television, “You did tremendous investigating.” Danforth talked as if blind trust in Washington is the key to “good government.” Citizens provided almost boundless trust after the 9/11 attacks, and the result was a disastrous war in Iraq, a worldwide torture regime, and the National Security Agency’s ravaging Americans’ privacy. And the FBI agents that Danforth exonerated created an endless series of scandals, entrapments, and debacles, culminating (perhaps) in their effort to take down President Donald Trump. In his Washington Post oped in October, Danforth wailed that Trump’s accusing the Commission on Presidential Debates of favoritism “destroys public confidence in the most basic treasure of democracy, the conduct of fair elections” and “paves the way to violence in the streets.” But for many Americans, “government under the law” is the basic treasure of democracy. And Danforth’s yapping about the peril of “violence in the streets” rings hollow after he whitewashed a federal assault that left 80 people dead. Americans are sick and tired of the “move along, nothing to see here” version of democracy that Danforth offered. This article was originally published in the January 2021 edition of Future of Freedom.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Talk about the 'banality of evil' -- it can't get more trite than that! Never forget that Mrs. Frankenstein went on TV and meaninglessly bleated "I take full responsibility" for Waco, permanently weaponizing the fraze to mean its exact opposite. This Danforth is obviously one of Satan's favorite henchmen. I see he's an ordained Episcople preest -- figures. _____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
Reno doesn't deserve the credit. Three Ft. Hood officers visited her and told her how it was going to be. True that Janet was a chemistry major and knew what CS would do and she had been dragging her feet; but after that visit, she signed off.
I don't know why you'd want to absolve this monster commie bitch, but you've been trying for years. Did she sign off or sign on?
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
Janet Reno Responsible for Waco Massacre The plan for the raid on what the mainstream media strategically called a “compound” worked its way up the chain of command to Attorney General Janet Reno on April 12, 1993. It was a two-step plan that the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) hoped would end at step one—injecting tear gas into two areas of Mount Carmel, the Branch Davidian home and church complex outside of Waco, Texas. They had hoped that this would drive the men, women, and children out and the engagement would be short-lived. Part two of the plan to lay siege to Mount Carmel involved tearing down the outer walls in an effort to expose those inside. Reno was not alone in her decisions. She was often consulted not only by the commanders in the field, but also by FBI Director William Sessions and Assistant Attorney General Webster Hubbell, a Clinton administration appointee tied to the same Arkansas scandals that would trail the president and first lady throughout their tenure in D.C. Reno suggested a scheme that would involve waiting until the water supply to the home was so depleted that the inhabitants would be thirsted out of Mount Carmel and into the hands of government officials. A later Justice Department report stated that the FBI convinced Reno that “(Branch Davidian leader David) Koresh was rationing water to ensure discipline.” Reno quickly abandoned the water strategy and instead asked the FBI for a written report on entrance options. The FBI’s report was received by the attorney general on April 17. She quickly gave her approval to an assault plan that would begin on April 19. What was to be a 48-hour plan lasted approximately five minutes. Licensed to Lie Available from the AFP Online Store. “It was not law enforcement’s intent that this was to be D-Day,” a later Justice Department report claimed. At 6:02 a.m., M6OA1 tanks, modified for demolition, began tearing through the walls of Mount Carmel. The tanks then began firing CS gas into the building. Shortly thereafter, in protection of their home, the residents of Mt. Carmel fired shots at the armored CEVs (combat engineering vehicles). The operations plan, approved by Reno,called for an escalation of government action if the tanks were fired upon. The order of the shots and the identities of the shooters would remain a controversy within the Waco research community. Regardless of the order of shots, return fire on the part of the Davidians was a certainty. Unlike many Americans, there are those who believe in the literal protection of property rights and the right to exist as a community. When they are threatened and fired upon by others—in an official governmental capacity or not—they will fire back. Self-defense laws protect individuals from other individual intrusions, but it is assumed that individuals are simply supposed to acquiesce when the intruder is a government entity over-aggressively and mortally enforcing its will. The Branch Davidians outside of Waco believed differently. The Justice Department report detailed Reno’s reactions as those of a surprised attorney general and not as the country’s leading law enforcement official who had pre-planned for all likely outcomes. In defending Reno, allowing her a human reaction to the commanders’ militaristic actions, the report also made the attorney general look incompetent. Reno “did not read the prepared statement carefully,” the report said. “Nor did she read the supporting documentation. She read only a chronology.” If that is true, then Reno approved fatal violence against American citizens after reading an outline in lieu of carefully studying the actual plans. Around 11:40 a.m., after a vapor had formed from the over 400 ferret rounds fired into the home, the building caught fire. Within a half hour, Mount Carmel was destroyed and those inside had died. Reno, President Bill Clinton, and FBI spokesmen all immediately began claiming that the Branch Davidians had started the fire. The BATF and the FBI made sure that no evidence could be investigated, just as Branch Davidian spokesman Steve Schneider said they would on March 10, over a month before the blaze. “If anybody wanted to come here and burn the place down, kill all the people, what evidence would be left?” Schneider had asked, a month earlier. Over the next month, Schneider made multiple statements predicting that government agents would, indeed, burn Mount Carmel to the ground in an effort to destroy evidence. Schneider was correct in his predictions, despite a FBI negotiator once telling him, “No, we’re not going to do something like that.” Hillary (and Bill) The Murder Volume Available at the AFP Online Store. In a statement as callous as Hillary Clinton’s later comment regarding Muammar Qaddafi (“We came, we saw, he died.”), President Clinton summed up the entire horrific tragedy at Waco in one line: “Some religious fanatics murdered themselves.” On a February 2001 episode of “Larry King Live,” former White House aide Linda Tripp alleged that it was the first lady who had pressured the late Vince Foster, Mrs. Clinton’s partner at Rose Law Firm and Deputy White House Counsel for the Clinton administration, to find a solution to the Waco standoff. According to author Robert Morrow, “Foster, at Mrs. Clinton’s direction, transmitted the order to move on the Branch Davidians’ Waco compound, which culminated in a military style attack on the wooden building.” Mike McNulty, producer of the documentary “Waco: Rules of Engagement,” also believed Mrs. Clinton gave the orders from the White House. In 1993, and throughout the Clinton administration, Mrs. Clinton did not have an appointed or elected role in the administration. She had neither been elected, nor had she ever been confirmed by the Senate. She assumed power by proxy, the definition of a shadow government. Regardless of who gave the orders at the White House level, Reno is on record as having approved the tactics used against the Branch Davidians. She also approved the prosecution of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols as the only Oklahoma City conspirators, despite evidence that others, including a Middle Eastern man seen with McVeigh, were involved. In 2000, it was Reno who ordered Elian Gonzalez returned to his father’s custody in Cuba. Whether or not she made warm speeches for progressive groups before her 2016 death, she is still responsible for the 80-plus lives lost at Mount Carmel, 21 of which were children. For Reno, the first woman to serve as attorney general, this is her legacy. This is her truth. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
America needs more women in positions of authority just like Janet Reno. And if the DEMs have their way I'm sure we'll have plenty of these dykes to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN (from Ho Chi Minh's poin of view). Actually, we cannot believe a fucking word issuing out of D.C. Those in positions of authority are an embarrassment, a danger, and pose the greatest threat ever to America. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
What's scary is that the script has been flipped. Your average "The View" watcher thinks you and I are are the threat. To oppose Biden/Pelosi/Clinton is to be a slave owning, gun-toting white supremacist deplorable naziwhokillidsixmillionjews. I wish I was just being snarky, but that is seriously how these people feel (notice I didn't say "think".) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
You're kidding, that was a woman ??? Shit is going south fast. Next thing we'll be hearing about is how Obama was the first Black queer to sit in the oval office and his wife was a man ! Soon, we'll find out that the Asst. Secretary of Health, Rachel Levine, is a tranny that had worked as a pediatrician in Pennsylvania. (TRANSYLVANIA is more likely). Steven King couldn't write this shit !!! "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
Party on, Garth! “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Most language is tilted one way or another. Exploiting and programming this is something gliberals do fiendishly well. Conservs not only don't bother, they' blithely take up the gliberals devil dialectics and make 'em their own. The gliberal hate-word 'racist' has done humanity more harm than nukes. The whole of Western civilization is demolishing itself for fear of those six little individually harmless letters. _____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
Every word's perfect there, incl. the tacit tribute to the late Bob Whitaker ;)
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
"Liberals" hate corporate America. Except for the MSM and the ones that support it through advertising dollars. Which leaves, what, Chick-Fil-A, HobbyLobby, and MyPillow? It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid. WTF, did Syria prevent Madonna from having 23rd abortion or something? “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Doesn't even leave Chick Fil-A anymore -- have always hated that name.
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
"Fuck them, stupid Christian pussies!" - Friedrich Nietzsche “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Damn, you're sure a lot better read than me. I vaguely remember that though... Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. I tend to extrapolate. :)
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Well, they should know they're the experts ! "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
I meant to mention that your post was excellent ! Thanks !
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I can appreciate that. See what you can dig up on projects Grill Flame and Star Gate. Back to the EV scam, why do you suppose GM (my favorite company that broke my Mom's back) felt the need to scrap however many of the most efficient cars ever produced (EV1)? I know the battery tech wasn't close, but why crunch all of them up? Somebody got cold feet, or threatened. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Liabilty. They tended to self immoliate “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Bullshit, GM could've sidestepped that with liability waivers, etc. Yeah, most likely that bullshit inductive charger caused a lot of problems (most likely a minority hire). I have no idea or data about the efficiency of that nonsense. Sure as hell doesn't make it through my bullshit filters. I'm not advocating for electric cars or wind mills, they are EROI negative, period. Come up and see the bullshit storage unit I call a house. I looks like the backroom of Los Alamos. The best laid plans of mice and men... Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Simmer down, big guy, just reporting my findings. I thought the wireless charging idea was pretty cool, straight out of Tesla (the guy, not the subsidy sponge):
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Just fucking admit it, GM almost did something good after the 70s and fucked up. My '93 Sonoma (<60,000mi) is waiting for you to come put your pretty lips on it. I'll supply the Tums, the ambulance ride is on you. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. I'd kill for an '87 Buick GNX. :) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I like the old Tesla guy, as tragic as his end may have come. Thomas Edison wasn't exactly his best friend. Elon should've called me as to the efficacy of EVs, but his scam would've fallen apart quickly. WTAF, ride the wild goob pony. I just don't care much anymore. I used to be able to make a mean loaf of sliced bread in my day. Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Well thanks for the post because it was well written and very relevant. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
By giving Reno the credit, you absolve the real monster whom I believe was the co-president who at the time was chairing the National Security Council along with her boyfriend, Vince Foster.
Reno could not command Ft. Hood who did the actual killings. The National Security Council, however, had the authority.
Agree, the satanist had a blood-lust from way back in AR and it was sated often throughout the years.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Remember the early months of the Clinton administration when there was a "copresident"? Seems that the copresident wanted to do what Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers and show strength and resolve early on. After Waco, there was no more "copresident" and guilt ridden Vince Foster who was co-chairing the National Security Council along with her was dead.
And we can always go back and look up the clinton body-count sites.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Right -- there was no co-president anymore, it was just Empress Hillary all the time on everything. Isn't it good ppl are still tying today's mass murders in with ugly scenes like Waco? Counterpunch is conservatiberal but very good on some subjects. _____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
Vince Foster's guilt is totally eclipsed in his martyr status. The nightmare freak Reno must live in infamy.
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
And alas, Christains deserve that description a lot of the time.
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
Hillary kept a low profile for a while after Waco.
Foster had the decency to be tormented by what he had contributed to the massacre and, just maybe, he did commit suicide over it. No one has ever credited him with being a martyr.
That's the ticket !
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " Every county that Trump won should be declared a Conservative American sanctuary county !
Not just Hillary, but the now deceased Attorney General of the U.S., Janet Reno. When she was informed of what was going on she said, "Give me a reason not to do this." Obviously there was no reason. :-/
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Didn't notice that at all.
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
He didn't kill himself. Hillary and friends deliberately made that obvious.
_____________________________________________________________ USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
You might have noticed she stopped calling herself "co-president"
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAlmost nobody in Washington cared about the Texas carnage. Attorney General Janet Reno, who approved the deadly final assault, was labeled a “folk hero” by the Los Angeles Times, and the Washington Post declared that she had “superstar status.”
#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)
#3. To: Ada (#2)
#4. To: NeoconsNailed, Ada (#3)
Reno doesn't deserve the credit.
#5. To: Ada (#2)
True that Janet was a chemistry major and knew what CS would do and she had been dragging her feet; but after that visit, she signed off.
#6. To: noone222 (#5)
Those in positions of authority are an embarrassment, a danger, and pose the greatest threat ever to America.
#7. To: Dakmar (#4)
For Reno, the first woman to serve as attorney general, this is her legacy. This is her truth.
#8. To: noone222 (#7)
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#9. To: Dakmar (#4)
what the mainstream media strategically called a “compound”
#10. To: Dakmar (#6)
#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#9)
Most language is tilted one way or another. Exploiting and programming this is something gliberals do fiendishly well.
#12. To: Dakmar (#11)
#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)
Doesn't even leave Chick Fil-A anymore
#14. To: Dakmar (#13)
"Fuck them, stupid Christian pussies!" - Friedrich Nietzsche
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#15. To: Esso (#14)
#16. To: Dakmar (#6)
Your average "The View" watcher thinks you and I are are the threat.
#17. To: Dakmar (#4)
#18. To: noone222 (#17)
#4 was AmericanFreePress, I just copy/pasted.
#19. To: Dakmar (#15)
I tend to extrapolate.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#20. To: Esso (#19)
why do you suppose GM felt the need to scrap however many of the most efficient cars ever produced (EV1)
The home charger provided by GM, which was required for "fast recharging" of the car, measured roughly 1.5 by 2 by 5 feet (0.5 by 0.6 by 1.5 m), and featured integrated heatsinks and a resemblance to a gasoline pump. The charger refueled the car using induction, accomplished by inserting a Magne Charge paddle into the slot between the EV1's headlights. The wireless charging technology meant that no direct connection was made, and charging the car while it was raining did not pose any risks, though there were isolated incidents involving fires starting at the charge port. GM also offered a 120 V AC convenience charger that could be used with any standard North America power socket to slow-charge the battery pack. The convenience charger was not available for EV1s equipped with the NiMH battery packs. Installation of the device took between one and two weeks, at an additional average cost of $2500.
#21. To: Dakmar (#20)
Liabilty.
They tended to self immoliate
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#22. To: Esso (#21)
#23. To: Dakmar (#20)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#24. To: Esso (#23)
Just fucking admit it, GM almost did something good after the 70s
#25. To: Dakmar (#22)
Simmer down, big guy, just reporting my findings. I thought the wireless charging idea was pretty cool, straight out of Tesla (the guy, not the subsidy sponge)
Is that friggin' Jim McDork? No, just me, I did the best I could.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#26. To: Dakmar (#18)
#4 was AmericanFreePress, I just copy/pasted.
#27. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)
I don't know why you'd want to absolve this monster commie bitch
#28. To: noone222 (#5)
#29. To: Ada (#27)
#30. To: Lod, neoconsnailed (#29)
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Agree, the satanist had a blood-lust from way back in AR and it was sated often throughout the years
#31. To: Ada (#30)
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#33. To: Ada (#27)
#34. To: Dakmar (#13)
#35. To: NeoconsNailed (#32)
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#37. To: Dakmar (#8)
#38. To: Ada (#35)
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