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Israel/Zionism See other Israel/Zionism Articles Title: Chinese Christians Held in Secretive Brainwashing Camps: Sources Authorities in China are detaining Christians in secretive, mobile "transformation" facilities to make them renounce their faith, RFA has learned. A member of a Christian "house church" in the southwestern province of Sichuan who asked to be identified by a pseudonym Li Yuese said he was held in a facility run by the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP)'s United Front Work Department, working in tandem with the state security police, for 10 months after a raid on his church in 2018. "It was a mobile facility, that could just set up in some basement somewhere," Li said. "It was staffed by people from several different government departments." "It had its own (CCP) political and legal affairs committee working group, and they mainly target Christians who are members of house churches," he said. The Chinese Communist Party, which embraces atheism, exercises tight controls over any form of religious practice among its citizens. State security police and religious affairs bureau officials frequently raid unofficial "house churches" that aren't members of the CCP-backed Three-Self Patriotic Association, although member churches have also been targeted at times. The CCP under Xi Jinping regards Christianity as a dangerous foreign import, with party documents warning against the "infiltration of Western hostile forces" in the form of religion. Li said he was held in a windowless room for nearly 10 months, during which time he was beaten, verbally abused and "mentally tortured" by staff, eventually resorting to self-harm by throwing himself against a wall. His account is chillingly similar to those of former inmates of "transformation" camps in the northwestern region of Xinjiang. "They use really underhand methods," Li said. "They threaten, insult and intimidate you. These were United Front officials, men, women, sometimes unidentified, usually in plain clothes. The police turn a blind eye to this," he said. "You have to accept the statement they prepare for you," he said. "If you refuse, you will be seen as having a bad attitude and they will keep you in detention and keep on beating you." Basement brainwashing sessions Li said most of his fellow inmates were also people who had been released on bail during criminal detention for taking part in church-related activities. Most hadn't done anything that could trigger any criminal prosecution, so police sent them to the "transformation" facilities instead, Li said. "They were using brainwashing methods on those of us who were on bail from the detention center," he said. "It was in a secret location, in a basement." "There were two plainclothes officers in my room, and a uniformed officer was in another room," Li said. "There were no windows, no ventilation and no time allowed outside," he said. "I was given just two meals a day, which were brought to the room by a designated person." Inmates who refused to "admit their mistakes" were held in solitary confinement for prolonged periods. "There is no time limit for the brainwashing process," he said. "I don’t know the longest time anyone has been held there, but I was detained for eight or nine months." "You can't see the sun, so you lose all no concept of time." He said suicidal ideation and self-harm was commonplace. "I couldn't sleep; after you've been in there a week, death starts to look better than staying there," Li said. "I bashed myself against the wall to self-harm." "One time in there, I was groggy and was trying to open my eyes but I couldn't," he said. "Four or five of them grabbed me by the arms and legs and pinned me to the ground." "They they injected me with some drug, and brought me back to consciousness." Haunted by experience Li said he was in very poor health on his release, with edema all over his body and a weight gain of 10 kilograms. He remains haunted by the experience to this day, he told RFA. Another Christian who asked to remain anonymous told RFA that similar facilities are being used across China, not just for Protestants, but also for members of the underground Catholic church, and of the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement, a target of authorities since 1999..... Poster Comment: I'm trying to remember which one of you was insisting to me that China has changed, it's nothing like it used to be, "when was the last report on any Laogai prisons anyway". No doubt the PRC's subjects -- or citizens -- feel blessedly much freer than they used to under Mao, Li-Peng etc. But if the gulag still persists there, not good. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 12.
#9. To: NeoconsNailed (#0)
For starters those concentration camps are Apple Factories and not the hellhole everyone says it is. China has changed. Slave labor has replaced low paying workers.
You mean dissident Chinese pastors aren't still making Xmas trinkets for first-world brats under miserable prison conditions? The Apple factories are another kind of industrial hell serving up our decadent 'western' goodies
I had hoped you had read that with Sarcasm and not actually serious. Because it was meant to be sarcastic and in no way a challenge to what you are saying. My sense of humor lately is pretty dark and while it might not be funny to you, just wait. When dissident Americans are being herded to camps and used for slave labor, because it is coming, then it will give us all something in common with the Christians in China. Which I do not understand being a problem considering that the King James Bible pretty much says obey your rulers even if they are tyrants...
The KJV is hateful and phony, but I believe it supports freedom and opposes tyranny at every turn including those in Romans that funnymentalists love to quote and knaves love to bowdlerize. Even some standard Bible references say it's church "higher powers" and "authorities" Paul's telling the faithful to defer to -- not the Roman dictators. Today's spineless PEACHERS read "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" as "Give the govt thieves everything they claim you owe, NOW!" Nothing in the Bible support the idea of an income or otherwise unlawful tax. Never forget (and never fail to remind pietists and jewlovers) that the KJ also says to shut out all JEWISH FABLES in those two exact words. Useful and devastating.
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