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Title: Holland subjects immigrants to entrance exam
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12581252/
Published: May 1, 2006
Author: Dawna Friesen
Post Date: 2006-05-01 21:50:24 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 182
Comments: 11

Holland subjects immigrants to entrance exam
Test exposes them to liberal mores; nation requires them to speak Dutch

By Dawna Friesen
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 7:36 p.m. ET May 1, 2006

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Known for its tranquility and tulips and its reputation for permissiveness, the Netherlands was once considered the most tolerant country in Europe when it came to immigrants.

Not anymore.

Take Irkan Yildarim. He's Muslim, lives in Turkey with his parents, and desperately wants to join his wife in Holland. But first he must take a test to see if he fits in.

It's a two-hour government film about life in the Netherlands: Compulsory viewing as part of a tough new entrance test for would-be immigrants. The idea of the film — depicting things like gay men kissing and topless beaches — is to make immigrants familiar with every aspect of Dutch society.

"If my friends saw me near a topless beach, they'd lose all respect for me," Yildarim says after watching the film. "I'll never get back to my wife."

And there's another hurdle: Immigrants must learn to speak Dutch before entering Holland.

The woman behind the new test is Holland's immigration minister, Rita Verdonk, known as "Iron Rita."

"We are a free country for people who need a secure place to live, but not for everybody who wants to come," she says.

There are already 600,000 immigrants in Holland, Verdonk says, who don't speak Dutch, and live in tight-knit, insulated neighborhoods. The children have trouble in school and young people can't find work.

The message is loud and clear: If you want to live here, you must respect European values like freedom of expression and speech, and integrate. If you don't like it, don't come here.

Attitudes began to harden after a controversial Dutch filmmaker was killed by a militant Muslim in November 2004. And the bombings in London and Madrid made all of Europe jittery.

"People see all Muslims as extremists now," says Abdou Menebhi, "and the government is exploiting that fear."

Born in Morocco, Menebhi is a Dutch citizen who works with immigrants.

"The aim of the new test is to keep Muslims from coming here," he says.

Other countries are watching the new Dutch model closely, and some German states have already introduced similar tests, as the face of Europe changes, and the cultural fault lines deepen.

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#1. To: robin (#0)

Netherlands was once considered the most tolerant country in Europe when it came to immigrants.

Not anymore

how interesting...i'm thinking we might now live in one of the worst countries on earth with one of the worst governments on earth.

"Of the corporate elites, by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites" - it's what America is all about. Now send your kids off to fight and die in Iraq so that corporate pigs get everything and we get nothing. What else have we ever fought for?~~Elliott J

christine  posted on  2006-05-01   21:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

It's too little, too late.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-05-01   22:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: MUDDOG (#2)

It's too late, baby, now it's too late

sorry, Muddog, your comment made me start singing that. :P

"Of the corporate elites, by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites" - it's what America is all about. Now send your kids off to fight and die in Iraq so that corporate pigs get everything and we get nothing. What else have we ever fought for?~~Elliott J

christine  posted on  2006-05-01   22:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MUDDOG, robin (#2)

It's too little, too late.

True.. I'm trying to recall an article I read about the % of Dutch expatriating.. it was surprising.. due of course to the immigration problem in the Netherlands...

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-01   22:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3)

The Byrds doing "Wasn't Born to Follow" is my favorite Carole King song (written with Gerry Goffin).


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-05-01   22:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#4)

Charles Martel's victory over the Moors will have been for naught.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-05-01   22:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: MUDDOG (#6)

Charles Martel's victory over the Moors will have been for naught.

Gosh.. excellent point..

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-01   22:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#0)

Frankly, why is this now a big topic? It's not like the problem is bigger than ever; it's about the same. This is being used by Rove to take attention away from Iraq, Iran, social security, health care, etc. We have a porous border, period. No matter what we do, short of sending the chairman of Tyson or Perdue to jail, the flood will continue, but they flow the other way too. You go back to an El Salvadoran village with $50k, you can live like a prince for the rest of your life.

This is meant to be a distraction. Most illegals pay income tax and SS tax they will never benefit from. And they are disguising the fact that we are losing workers every year, by the ton.

Seriously, would anyone here work in a hot kitchen washing dishes for $5 an hour? I did it when I was a kid (although it was about $3 back then) and I would never do that job again.

We've made it almost impossible for a Latino to come to this country legally that illegal immigration is obvious. If we had some sane policy to let them move over the border legally, then go back and return at will, this would all go away. I doubt they are taking away any jobs apart from construction...no one wants to spend 8 hours killing chickens and cows.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-05-01   22:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: MUDDOG (#5)

Wasn't Born To Follow

i'd not heard it before.

"Of the corporate elites, by the corporate elites, for the corporate elites" - it's what America is all about. Now send your kids off to fight and die in Iraq so that corporate pigs get everything and we get nothing. What else have we ever fought for?~~Elliott J

christine  posted on  2006-05-01   22:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#9)

It was the theme song for the movie "Easy Rider."

But my favorite movie with hippies is "The President's Analyst," when James Coburn is hiding out with a band of hippies.

"I Love You Alice B. Toklas" also good.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-05-01   22:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mekons4 (#8)

Frankly, why is this now a big topic?

Well, the big deal, IMO, is the union of big business, big religion, big politics all sprinkled in with rabid anti white radicals. I've seen nothing like this in my lifetime.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-01   23:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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