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Title: Who Won the War on Terror?
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Published: Aug 24, 2021
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Post Date: 2021-09-12 02:39:49 by BTP Holdings
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Who Won the War on Terror?

PAOLO PELLEGRIN / MAGNUM PHOTOS

September/October 2021

Since 9/11, the “war on terror” has been central to U.S. policy.

September/October 2021

“This battle will take time and resolve,” President George W. Bush declared on September 12, 2001. “But make no mistake about it: we will win.” For much of the next two decades, pursuing victory in the “war on terror” would serve as the central fixation of American foreign policy. Yet even as the United States invaded two countries and launched drone strikes in others, as governments around the world erected vast security structures and attackers plotted with mixed success to evade them, as jihadi groups rose and fell and rose again, a basic question was never answered: What would it mean to “win”?

Drawing on thousands of al Qaeda documents seized in the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, Nelly Lahoud reveals that the other side struggled with the same question. The 9/11 attacks were meant, in bin Laden’s words, to “destroy the myth of American invincibility.” Ultimately, Lahoud writes, “bin Laden did change the world—just not in the ways that he wanted.”

One factor he failed to anticipate was the overwhelming U.S. response. “By any measure,” writes Ben Rhodes, “the ‘war on terror’ was the biggest project of the period of American hegemony that began when the Cold War ended—a period that has now reached its dusk.” The vast scale and consequences of that project, Rhodes argues, continue to shape U.S. foreign policy, as Washington imposes the same us-versus-them construct on new threats.

American counterterrorism, meanwhile, has settled into what Daniel Byman calls a “good enough doctrine,” meant to “manage, rather than eliminate, the terrorist threat”—with a degree of effectiveness that few imagined possible in the aftermath of 9/11. Other outcomes would have seemed equally surprising. Thomas Hegghammer traces how the fight against jihadi terrorism fueled “the steadily growing coercive power of the technocratic state.” Cynthia Miller-Idriss traces how it fueled a different strain of extremist violence: 2020 saw a record number of domestic terrorist plots and attacks in the United States, and “two-thirds of those were attributable to white supremacists and other far-right extremists.”

“If the goal of the global war on terror was to prevent significant acts of terrorism, particularly in the United States, then the war has succeeded,” Elliot Ackerman concludes from his survey of the expansive use of U.S. military power in that war. “But at what cost?” In the last few years, terrorism may have vanished from the top tier of American national security concerns almost as quickly as it appeared. Yet the costs continue to accrue—leaving the question of what winning means as unsettled now as it was on September 12, 2001.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0) (Edited)

I dunno, but this might get me in trouble at ZH:

I'm part of Ronald Drumpf's secret ex .mil militia that is poised to take over the country with ammo that we have purchased from Bidet's TollyBon. We are going to feed all the commie soy-bois into the country's chicken processing plants to make up for the shortage. It will taste OK, but be forewarned, the soy content will be very high, and over consumption will cause major testosterone depletion. It's recommended that the hind quarters be fed to your canines. As with the former chicken, don't feed your dogs cooked bones of soy-bois.

Lord Commander Esso, Mid Eastern General of the the Real Government

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The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-09-12   2:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1) (Edited)

I love ZH...My make-girlyfriend...

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She's being shy tonight, sorry.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-09-12   3:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Esso (#1)

commie soy-bois

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-09-12   3:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

That was Edgar G. Robinson's last movie appearance. He was cool.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-09-12   3:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

Ah, there she is. She's shy even with me at ZH. I do love her so...

Yeah, look at those eyes and that smirk. We aren't lying to this gal, she knows.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-09-12   3:11:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Esso (#4)

That was Edgar G. Robinson's last movie appearance. He was cool.

Just as cool as James Cagney. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-09-12   3:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6) (Edited)

Just as cool as James Cagney.

Yeah, I've got a dead 400 disc next to me on my desk that died when the lightning hit my house (not the electric line) a few years ago.

I love those old movies, especially the ones around 1932 when the depression was bottoming out, like "My Man Godfrey" which has been in my tagline forever, it's a great quote. William Powell was awesome in the "Thin Man" series with Myrna Loy.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-09-12   3:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Who won ....

Raytheon, Halliburton, the federal reserve banks, and war profiteers of every stripe and dimension. The same guys who always win.

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2021-09-12   10:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)

the federal reserve banks

“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket: The Antiwar Classic by America's Most Decorated Soldier

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-09-12   10:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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