Title: Alec Baldwin Fired LIVE ROUND On Movie Set, Killing Staff Member, Crazy New Details Emerge Source:
TimCast URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtbsfFt406U Published:Oct 23, 2021 Author:Tim Pool Post Date:2021-10-23 09:31:50 by Esso Keywords:None Views:1333 Comments:59
Here is the break down with regards to acting, guns, and gun safety on the set.
Actors, and actresses have to take a mandatory gun safety course usually as part of their liability insurance for the film production in case things like this happen. As per the course, one of the things that not only the prop master is supposed to do, but also the actor, is to check the firearm to make sure that it is either loaded or unloaded, and in serviceable condition. This goes to checking the ammunition, and functionality of the firearm.
Here is where Alec Baldwin went wrong. He did not perform his mandatory safety check which usually takes less than a minute. If he had checked the gun and checked the ammunition himself, then he would have likely asked a question or two, and maybe prevented something from happening. The ARMORER should have been in a supervisory role with the star, in order to make sure that he was safe.
The blame in my mind lies with both Alec Baldwin, and the armorer as there should have been ZERO live rounds. By live rounds, I mean the ones that have projectiles in them, not just the wadding to contain the powder charge.
Funnier still, these prop guns, are glorified Starter pistols and sometimes they do malfunction but the rarity of them having malfunctions is nothing.
This was someone deliberately putting a live round in the firearm, and letting Alec have the gun without checking it. What does this do for his future? Likely nothing as he will probably use it as a means to ban guns. The leftists will use this event to say that ALL GUNS ARE EVIL AND KILL PEOPLE, because its too easy for trustworthy people to do something bad on a movie set, so everyone has to give up their guns. FOR THE CHILDREN.
Wait a minute -- you're pointing out that the cui bono aspect of this is very tangy. The affair is a sensational news noise and it's possible that it's as fake as antigun pantomimes like Sandy Hoax and the shooting of US Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
The Powers That Should Not Be will do anything to get where they want to go, and they know the sheeple are absolute suckers for melodrama -- the faker the better.
The story apparently has now taken a turn towards manslaughter as apparently there was a bit of a dust up between Alec, and the director about doing another take. He apparently told them What if I just shot the both of you? Then pointed and shot the director of photography, which the bullet passed through, striking the director.
The gun was loaded with ONE live bullet which could have struck anyone at any time. The chain of custody on that gun revolves around 3 people, including Baldwin. So at any point someone could have put a live round in there. The issue for me is that with this bit of news, Baldwin failed in the adherence of the first rule of simple gun safety. Dont point a gun, live or prop at anyone.
He could have killed another actor at any point in the shooting of that film.
That being said, He may actually get into a lot of legal issues as the result of all of this. His actions leading to, and after the event are going to haunt him. I would not have wished that on anyone, even Baldwin. The issue for me is that the lefties in this country will find a way to spin this into their favor, even though it was one of their own who did this through simple carelessness and negligence.
#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Esso, NeoconsNailed (#20)
The NY Slimes is saying "the tip of .44 caliber bullet had become lodged in the gun's barrel when filming a close-up scene, and dislodged when a blank cartridge was fired." Note the double passivity aimed at exculpating the shooter, and the Slimes' woeful ignorance of even basic firearms knowledge. Some ignoramus could be forgiven for calling a bullet the tip a cartridge, but nobody who uses the word "cartridge" in the very next sentence could be forgiven for calling a bullet "the tip of a bullet".
Why would live rounds -- with real bullets -- ever be used "when filming a close-up scene"?
Are Hollyweird "prop guns" real, fully functional guns? Was this a real, fully functional .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver?
Are Hollyweird "prop guns" real, fully functional guns? Was this a real, fully functional .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver?
I'll put down a nice Morgan Dollar on it that this movie co. used a good old single action Colt like anyone can find at the corner gun store.
If the cylinder will allow the load of a whole magnum round, the barrel will no doubt spit the bullet out when the hammer's cocked and the trigger is pulled -- to deadly effect when aimed.
I would bet also that some asshole slipped a live round in the chamber when no one was looking as a revenge move and got just what he was hoping for.
it appears that these anti-gun Hollyweird leftists were using the "prop" guns for recreational shooting between scenes. Real guns, with lots of live ammo around on the set.
Not a blank cartridge dislodging wadding or a previously stuck-in-the- barrel bullet, or any of that poppycock.
it appears that these anti-gun Hollyweird leftists were using the "prop" guns for recreational shooting between scenes.
And they drive around in the prop cars. The firearms are almost all off the shelf weapons. Revolvers don't need any kind of modification, where most semi or full auto guns either have a constricted barrel (pistols typ) or a constricted flash hider (rifles typ) so that the blank charges develop enough gas pressure to cycle the action.
For scenes where someone is being hit with a gun like a baseball bat, a rubber prop is used typically. Blanks are dangerous because of the high pressure gas and waddings. You can be badly injured or killed with an air nozzle on an air compressor.
Reporters and firearms just don't get along, but I'm sure the CIA will get them squared away. I think Trump Jr. has a T-shirt for sale that says: 'Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people'. There's a wee bit o' animosity betwixt them.
Not exactly. I'm familiar with some of Michael Mann's productions. He's very detail oriented. 'Thief', 'Heat' and the 'Miami Vice' TeeVee show come to mind.
(Edit) I was one of two actors in a training video a long time ago for a logistics/moving company. It was a favor for a friend. It was a bitch, took over 40 hours for a 45 minute production. I've got a VHS copy laying around somewhere.