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Title: Alec Baldwin Fired LIVE ROUND On Movie Set, Killing Staff Member, Crazy New Details Emerge
Source: TimCast
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtbsfFt406U
Published: Oct 23, 2021
Author: Tim Pool
Post Date: 2021-10-23 09:31:50 by Esso
Keywords: None
Views: 764
Comments: 59


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#20. To: NeoconsNailed (#16)

The story apparently has now taken a turn towards manslaughter as apparently there was a bit of a dust up between Alec, and the director about doing another take. He apparently told them “What if I just shot the both of you?” Then pointed and shot the director of photography, which the bullet passed through, striking the director.

The gun was loaded with ONE live bullet which could have struck anyone at any time. The chain of custody on that gun revolves around 3 people, including Baldwin. So at any point someone could have put a live round in there. The issue for me is that with this bit of news, Baldwin failed in the adherence of the first rule of simple gun safety. Don’t point a gun, live or prop at anyone.

He could have killed another actor at any point in the shooting of that film.

That being said, He may actually get into a lot of legal issues as the result of all of this. His actions leading to, and after the event are going to haunt him. I would not have wished that on anyone, even Baldwin. The issue for me is that the lefties in this country will find a way to spin this into their favor, even though it was one of their own who did this through simple carelessness and negligence.

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TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2021-10-24   17:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist, 4um (#20)

The gun was loaded with ONE live bullet...

I'm wondering when they're going to get around to blaming that on Trump. Maybe tomorrow, they figure nobody watches the news on weekends.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-24   17:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#20)

The bullet passed thru the cinematographer's body and into the director's? Sounds like a freak shot for the history books.

The fact that he pointed the gun and said that surely proves malice i.e. motive so the law has no way around throwing the book at him -- which it won't do, alas. Safety-wise this is the equivalent of driving through a red lite in a busy city, so it'll set terrible precedents when he beats the rap with 100 hours of community service or whatever.

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-24   19:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Esso, NeoconsNailed (#20)

The NY Slimes is saying "the tip of .44 caliber bullet had become lodged in the gun's barrel when filming a close-up scene, and dislodged when a blank cartridge was fired." Note the double passivity aimed at exculpating the shooter, and the Slimes' woeful ignorance of even basic firearms knowledge. Some ignoramus could be forgiven for calling a bullet the tip a cartridge, but nobody who uses the word "cartridge" in the very next sentence could be forgiven for calling a bullet "the tip of a bullet".

Why would live rounds -- with real bullets -- ever be used "when filming a close-up scene"?

Are Hollyweird "prop guns" real, fully functional guns? Was this a real, fully functional .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver?

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-24   21:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: NeoconsNailed (#22)

Sounds like a freak shot for the history books.

Not so freaky. A .44 magnum bullet will easily pass through a human torso. Most loadings of the lower powered .44 Special caliber will too, but not as readily.

Trained shooters always consider the fact that a person or a game animal when shot might not stop the bullet, and that whatever or whoever is behind the target is also at risk of being hit.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-24   21:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: StraitGate (#23)

Are Hollyweird "prop guns" real, fully functional guns?

Just remember the McCloskey's from suburban St. Louis who were brandishing firearms.

It turned out the pistol Patricia McCloskey had was a non-functional movie prop that did not even have a firing pin in place. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-24   21:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings (#25)

the pistol Patricia McCloskey had was a non-functional movie prop

That would explain the casual and careless way she was wielding it.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-24   21:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: StraitGate (#23)

The NY Slimes is saying "the tip of .44 caliber bullet had become lodged in the gun's barrel when filming a close-up scene, and dislodged when a blank cartridge was fired."

We've heard this from various sources, and that is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. I can't believe such a statement came from a national rag. Or maybe I'm overestimating them.

If "the tip of .44 caliber bullet had become lodged in the gun's barrel when filming a close-up scene," it would have been immediately recognized as a ballistic disaster, and the firearm would have been pulled for repair or retirement.

Only a certified moonbat would have considered reloading such a firearm for any purpose. There are a ton of loony stories circulating around this event. No telling how and for whom they will be spun.

randge  posted on  2021-10-24   22:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: StraitGate (#24)

Gosh -- will the next 'Alec Baldwin' please line the cast and crew up about 10 deep? What caliber would that take ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-24   23:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: StraitGate (#23)

Excellent questions -- answers have to be readily at hand. Will this make any gun magazines? Is this show still at it -- used to hear it on local AM station:

vintagearmsillinois.com/the-gun-show-radio-program/

wikid: "In a sworn affidavit, a detective stated that Baldwin was handed the prop by assistant director Dave Halls rather than by the set's weapons master: neither Halls nor Baldwin knew it was loaded.[73] Hours before Baldwin fatally shot Hutchins, seven unionized crew members, who were protesting unsafe working conditions, were told to leave the set, with a producer threatening to call the police if they did not leave, and were replaced by non-union members.[74][75] There was no union prop master present on the set during the incident.[76]"

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-24   23:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: NeoconsNailed (#29)

seven unionized crew members, who were protesting unsafe working conditions, were told to leave the set, with a producer threatening to call the police if they did not leave, and were replaced by non-union members.[74][75] There was no union prop master present on the set during the incident.[76]"

Someone is culpable in this. But who exactly? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-25   7:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BTP Holdings (#30)

VOTE BALDWIN FOR ELECTRIC CHAIR!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-25   8:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: NeoconsNailed (#29)

"was handed the prop" -- They really love 'em that passive voice, don't they?

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-25   12:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: StraitGate (#32)

Yep, LOL -- have to watch meself like a hawk on that too ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-25   13:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: StraitGate (#23)

Are Hollyweird "prop guns" real, fully functional guns? Was this a real, fully functional .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver?

I'll put down a nice Morgan Dollar on it that this movie co. used a good old single action Colt like anyone can find at the corner gun store.

If the cylinder will allow the load of a whole magnum round, the barrel will no doubt spit the bullet out when the hammer's cocked and the trigger is pulled -- to deadly effect when aimed.

I would bet also that some asshole slipped a live round in the chamber when no one was looking as a revenge move and got just what he was hoping for.

Nasty, nasty Hollyweird.

randge  posted on  2021-10-25   16:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge, 4um (#34)

I'll put down a nice Morgan Dollar on it that this movie co. used a good old single action Colt like anyone can find at the corner gun store.

You win the prize. It was being used for "target practice" after hours, most likely a .45 long Colt.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-25   16:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Esso (#35)

Ouch, and that's loud too.

I've had a farmer put one into a tree trunk once to advise me it was time to leave.

Don't remember if it was a 44 or a 45 but it would take a chunk out of a tree or out of your ass.

randge  posted on  2021-10-25   16:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: randge (#34)

I would bet also that some asshole slipped a live round in the chamber when no one was looking as a revenge move and got just what he was hoping for.

I think we have a winner here, thank you.

“ On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. ” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2021-10-25   17:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: StraitGate (#26)

That would explain the casual and careless way she was wielding it.

"Never flourish your weapon and don't draw unless you intend to fire." - Teddy Roosevelt

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-25   17:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge, Lod, 4um (#34) (Edited)

I would bet also that some asshole slipped a live round in the chamber when no one was looking as a revenge move and got just what he was hoping for.

Yeah, it was probably that pesky ol' orange man bad.

(Edit) Tomorrow's narratives, today.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-25   17:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: randge (#34)

I would bet also that some asshole slipped a live round in the chamber when no one was looking as a revenge move and got just what he was hoping for.

Nasty, nasty Hollyweird.

Didn't the Producer of this film fire some union people and put scabs in their place? I think so.

Those union people are in charge of props and they can easily sabotage things. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-25   17:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#31)

Main good and bad sites are conspicuously ignoring it

home.nra.org/

www.gunsandammo.com/

www.gunowners.org/

www.bradyunited.org/

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-25   17:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#40) (Edited)

Didn't the Producer of this film...

That would be one, Alec Baldwin.

Produced by
Alec Baldwin ... producer
Kc Brandenstein ... co-producer
Allen Cheney ... executive producer
Matt DelPiano ... producer
Tyler Gould ... executive producer
Matthew Helderman ... executive producer
Nathan Klingher ... producer
Anjul Nigam ... producer
Emily Hunter Salveson ... executive producer
Ryan Donnell Smith ... producer
Luke Taylor ... executive producer
Ryan Winterstern ... producer

Look at the first executive producer... You don't suppose?...

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-25   17:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ada (#7)

why did the director and cinematographer get hit rather than another actor?

director and cinematographer both antivaxing trump supporters so it seems.


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2021-10-25   18:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Esso (#42)

I figure a minimum of 6 of those surnames are jew. Cast was to include a Fimmel and a Fischer

en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Rust_(upcoming_film)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-25   19:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: BTP Holdings (#38)

"Never flourish your weapon and don't draw unless you intend to fire." - Teddy Roosevelt

I know that's a popular adage, but it's not always the best advice. In lots of cases the mere brandishing of a firearm has caused a miscreant to turn tail and run.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-25   19:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: NeoconsNailed (#44)

It's almost as if they've completely taken over the industry. No, must be my imagination.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-25   19:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: StraitGate (#46)

Your word 'almost' lets us off the hook from facing any reality ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-25   20:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: StraitGate (#45)

mere brandishing of a firearm has caused a miscreant to turn tail and run.

You need to ask those two black guys in Chicago who were in the wrong neighborhood stirring up trouble on the night before one neighbor was going to throw a block party for his daughter who was turning 16.

I went to the house and grabbed the Mini-14. I chambered a round when I came out the door.

When they saw that, they floored it and blew the stop sign at the corner getting out of there.

They said, "We got something here that is gonna blow your shit away."

I called their bluff and that was the outcome.

I knew a detective in Chicago P.D. He told me, "If they said they had a gun, they probably did."

But there were friendlies in the line of fire anyway and I really did not want to hit any of them. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-26   9:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Esso (#42)

Allen Cheney

I checked him on IMDB and he is not related to the former Vice President. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-26   9:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Esso, NeoconsNailed, randge (#35)

From the video you just posted here:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i? ArtNum=254404&Disp=8#C8

it appears that these anti-gun Hollyweird leftists were using the "prop" guns for recreational shooting between scenes. Real guns, with lots of live ammo around on the set.

Not a blank cartridge dislodging wadding or a previously stuck-in-the- barrel bullet, or any of that poppycock.

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-26   21:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: StraitGate, 4um (#50) (Edited)

it appears that these anti-gun Hollyweird leftists were using the "prop" guns for recreational shooting between scenes.

And they drive around in the prop cars. The firearms are almost all off the shelf weapons. Revolvers don't need any kind of modification, where most semi or full auto guns either have a constricted barrel (pistols typ) or a constricted flash hider (rifles typ) so that the blank charges develop enough gas pressure to cycle the action.

For scenes where someone is being hit with a gun like a baseball bat, a rubber prop is used typically. Blanks are dangerous because of the high pressure gas and waddings. You can be badly injured or killed with an air nozzle on an air compressor.

Reporters and firearms just don't get along, but I'm sure the CIA will get them squared away. I think Trump Jr. has a T-shirt for sale that says: 'Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people'. There's a wee bit o' animosity betwixt them.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-26   22:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: StraitGate (#50)

Megalomaniacs, many of whom are abusing drugs or booze at any given time.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-26   23:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Esso (#51)

Your knowledge here is impressive. Did you ever work in movies?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-26   23:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: NeoconsNailed (#53) (Edited)

Your knowledge here is impressive.

I've had some weapons training here and there.

Did you ever work in movies?

Not exactly. I'm familiar with some of Michael Mann's productions. He's very detail oriented. 'Thief', 'Heat' and the 'Miami Vice' TeeVee show come to mind.

(Edit) I was one of two actors in a training video a long time ago for a logistics/moving company. It was a favor for a friend. It was a bitch, took over 40 hours for a 45 minute production. I've got a VHS copy laying around somewhere.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2021-10-26   23:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Esso (#54)

I dig any smallest oppty for theatrics. Local theater guy said I could play the doctor or preacher (lawyer?) in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but just went on staging musicals.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-27   23:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: StraitGate (#50)

That has to be substance abuse on parade.

The definition of prop gun seems to be quite hazy.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-27   23:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: NeoconsNailed, Esso (#56)

A lawyer specializing in gun cases weighs in. Lots of interesting comments:

legalinsurrection.com/202...-a-lot-like-manslaughter/

StraitGate  posted on  2021-10-28   0:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: StraitGate (#57)

Very thorough and very sound, I'm sure. Love that word 'felony'! ;-)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2021-10-28   1:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: StraitGate (#57)

legalinsurrection.com/202...-a-lot-like-manslaughter/

From the link:

Spoiler: The more we learn about the facts of this case, within the context of New Mexico criminal law, the more this shooting looks increasingly like a crime—specifically, felony involuntary manslaughter.

If the New Mexico Attorney General decides to pursue this, Baldwin will be spending some big cash on defense lawyers. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2021-10-28   7:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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