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Title: US GOVT GIVING INFO TO MEXICO - FREEPERS GONE WILD
Source: FREEPERLAND
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629359/posts?q=1&&page=151
Published: May 9, 2006
Author: Mehitable Storm
Post Date: 2006-05-09 17:23:34 by mehitable
Keywords: None
Views: 8600
Comments: 231

To: Idisarthur Attention:

Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting on FR. Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.

178 posted on 05/09/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


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They're going nuts over in FReeperville about this report that the US Govt has been giving info directly to the Mexican govt on various Minuteman groups in the US. Michele Malkin has some info: SNITCHING & SPYING FOR MEXICO By Michelle Malkin · May 09, 2006 12:55 PM I'll keep updating my first post on this subject with reader feedback. Meantime, the Minutemen Blog has details not reported by the Daily Bulletin: Sara Carter, a reporter with the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, reports today that she found documentation on Mexican government websites that show higher ups in the United States Border Patrol have been tipping off the corrupt Mexican government as to the locations of the Minutemen along the border. This article does not report information told to the MCDC media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massachusetts and Tennessee. Perhaps a follow-up story is coming tomorrow or an over zealous editor took the info out? Part of a report distributed last August to the Mexican government from Border Patrol bureaucrats read over the phone to the MCDC media offices contained not only numbers (estimated chapter membership) of Minutemen in Illinois, but a statement on their activities and that they didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating that the Illinois Minutemen didn't yet have any political clout. That is not a report on the location of Minutemen at the border, but political intelligence from our government to a foreign nation about the activities of American citizens petitioning our own government for redress of grievances. The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps media offices will contact the reporter to inquire about copies of the documents and the timing on a follow-up story with the reports to the Mexican government of activities of Minutemen in INTERIOR states, as if reports of our locations in the border states weren't bad enough. ****** Big Jim had to lay the hammer down...no more of that dere impeachment talk....

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#115. To: rowdee (#102)

I had to get away from that site just now---it is the creepiest place and mass of sheeple.

i feel the same way about TOS2

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   20:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: lodwick (#89)

Dang, Yert - what highbrow, thought provoking, issue-oriented correspondents you have.

Good luck with your in-box.

Freepers don't write me anymore, since I opened up a hatemail page, put their names and addresses (and their pictures, if I could find them), and sent the link to them.

One flipped out and demanded I take his email address off of my hatemail page. I pointed out to him that RimJob had posted my PRIVATE email to him on FR, that he had no business writing me in the first place, and so had no right to complain if I did to him what RimJob had done to me.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-09   20:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: YertleTurtle (#82)

What a maroon

That's a keeper!

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   20:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: YertleTurtle (#116)

Freepers don't write me anymore, since I opened up a hatemail page, put their names and addresses (and their pictures, if I could find them), and sent the link to them.

What a great idea!

So who called you a "maroon"?

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   20:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: lodwick (#93)

Break on Through to the Other Side?

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: robin (#118)

So who called you a "maroon"?

A guy named Bill Williams.

Here's the LINK to my Hatemail Page so you can read their scintillating brillance in toto.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-09   21:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: robin (#117)

ma•roon me-"run noun [F maron, marron, modif. of AmerSp cimarron, fr. cimarron wild, savage] (1666) 1 cap : a fugitive black slave of the West Indies and Guiana in the 17th and 18th centuries; also : a descendant of such a slave 2 : a person who is marooned

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: christine (#72)

yep

I figured as much...

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: robin (#114)

Thanks listening now. But why do they look so ridiculously young !?! ;D

Only the good die young?

He and Janis and something else, all checked out at age two-seven...many of us have been here over twice that long.

Something to think about, or not.

I'm fresh out of answers these days.

One day at a time here.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-09   21:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: christine (#121)

ma•roon me-"run noun [F maron, marron, modif. of AmerSp cimarron, fr. cimarron wild, savage] (1666) 1 cap : a fugitive black slave of the West Indies and Guiana in the 17th and 18th centuries; also : a descendant of such a slave 2 : a person who is marooned

Freepers use "maroon" because Bugs Buuny used the term instead of "moron." None have ever bothered to look up what it really means.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-09   21:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: christine (#121)

"Now I've heard of Bob Wallace. And now, I don't give a shit about yet another doofus. What a maroon."

I don't think that's how he meant it, the moron. Possible of course.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   21:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: lodwick (#123)

James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970)

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   21:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: robin (#125)

i know, i think he meant moron. i've seen a lot of people use maroon for moron.

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: robin (#125)

"In Bugs Bunny cartoons, the "wascally wabbit" sometimes refers to stupid people as "maroons," as in "What a maroon!" I'm wondering if this put-down has a racist genesis and what, if anything, it has to do with being "marooned" on a desert island.

"It is neither racist nor related to maroon 'to abandon' (though this word does originally refer to fugitive slaves), except through their identical pronunciation.

"The word maroon 'an foolish or obnoxious person' is simply a jocular mispronunciation of moron. It is probably reinforced by the existence of maroon 'abandon' and maroon 'brownish red color' (which are themselves unrelated, by the way, giving us three different unrelated maroons).

"Our maroon is first found in the 1940s, and was not coined by Bugs Bunny (though his use of it surely did a great deal to popularize the term). It is part of a number of words from that general period which represent jocular mispronunciations of common words. Some other exampes are anyhoo, fox paw (for faux pas), martooni, and nertz."

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-09   21:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: YertleTurtle, robin (#124)

oh!

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: YertleTurtle, christine (#128)

That is interesting, thanks!

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   21:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Zipporah (#94)

BTW here is a link to Vicente Fox' speech in Madrid it was in 2002:

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/actividades/?contenido=3080

Well, lemme take this nibble (it flabbergasted me):

El segundo eje de la política exterior de México ha sido la construcción de una asociación estratégica para la prosperidad con Estados Unidos y con Canadá, partiendo de una relación ya estrecha que descansa en el Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte y que está articulada en torno a una visión integral de largo plazo y conceptualmente novedosa.

La densidad y complejidad de los temas de nuestra agenda bilateral con Estados Unidos, tal y como es normal que suceda entre dos vecinos y socios tan asimétricos, tiene una dimensión particular por la presencia de amplias comunidades mexicanas asentadas en ese país, más de 20 millones de paisanos.

En los últimos meses hemos logrado ir mejorando la situación de muchos mexicanos en ese país, independientemente de su situación migratoria, a través de esquemas que les han permito acceder a los sistemas educativos y de salud, así como a documentos de identidad, al igual que pleno respeto a sus derechos laborales y a sus derechos humanos.

Todo esto ha significado en el último año un avance conceptual extraordinario en las relaciones entre nuestros dos países, particularmente en el tema migratorio y en la importancia de caminar paulatinamente hacia la regularización de la situación migratoria de nuestros connacionales en Estados Unidos, un número que se estima entre tres y cuatro millones de mexicanos.

Ultimadamente nuestro objetivo de largo plazo es establecer con Estados Unidos, pero también con Canadá, nuestro otro socio regional, un conjunto de vínculos e instituciones similares a los creados por la Unión Europea, con el fin de atender temas tan importantes para la futura prosperidad de Norteamérica, como la libertad de movimiento de capitales, bienes, servicios y personas.

Si bien éste es un objetivo que se antoja difícil, se trata de sentar visionariamente las bases de nuestra relación con un horizonte de 25 años.

The second axis of Mexico's foreign relations has been the construction of a strategic association for prosperity with the US and with Canada, starting from a already close relationship resting in NAFTA and which expresses an holistic vision of great scope and conceptual novelty.

The gravity and complexity of the issues in our bilateral agenda with the US, which is normal between two neighbors and associates that are so mismatched, has a particular dimension in the presence of many Mexican communities residing in that country, more than 20 million of our countrymen.

In the last few months, we have succeeded in improving the situation of many Mexicans in that country, regardless of their immigration status, through schemes that have allowed them access to educational and health systems, as well as identification documents, and also full recognition of their labor rights and human rights.

All this has represented in the last year an extraordinary conceptual advance in the relationship between our two countries, particularly on the issue of immigration and the importance of progressing step by step towards the regularization of the immigrant status of our fellow citizens in the US, a number estimated between three and four million Mexicans.

Ultimately our long range goal is to establish with the US, and also with Canada, our other regional partner, a complex of ties and institutions similar to those created for the European Union, with the aim to take care of these issues which are so important for the future prosperity of North America, such as the free movement of capital, assets, services and persons.

Even if this is a goal that seems difficult, it's a matter of establishing the bases for the vision of our relationship over a course of 25 years.

"Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence." ---General Jack D. Ripper

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, zipporah, christine, lodwick (#131)

So...how long y'all figure before we start referring to Clinton's two terms as "the good old days"?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: YertleTurtle (#128)

thanks..now i understand why i've seen it used so much.

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, wbales, mekons3 (#131)

white minority - black flag

enjoy! :)

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-09   21:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#131)

All this has represented in the last year an extraordinary conceptual advance in the relationship between our two countries, particularly on the issue of immigration and the importance of progressing step by step towards the regularization of the immigrant status of our fellow citizens in the US, a number estimated between three and four million Mexicans.

Ultimately our long range goal is to establish with the US, and also with Canada, our other regional partner, a complex of ties and institutions similar to those created for the European Union, with the aim to take care of these issues which are so important for the future prosperity of North America, such as the free movement of capital, assets, services and persons.

GACK!! So.. it seems the plan is coming along famously doesn't it?? How totally disgusting...

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: who knows what evil, Zipporah, christine, lodwick (#132)

So...how long y'all figure before we start referring to Clinton's two terms as "the good old days"?

I've already starting doing it. I still hate Clinton---unashamedly. Did we have it better under him? Goddam hell yes we did.

"Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence." ---General Jack D. Ripper

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   21:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: who knows what evil (#132)

So...how long y'all figure before we start referring to Clinton's two terms as "the good old days"?

.. been thinking that for some time now.. sigh.

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#136)

I've already starting doing it. I still hate Clinton---unashamedly. Did we have it better under him? Goddam hell yes we did.

You KNOW it's bad when so many are on the same wave length re Clinton.. We sure were worked weren't we?

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#136)

I've already starting doing it. I still hate Clinton---unashamedly. Did we have it better under him? Goddam hell yes we did.

Ditto. I loathe that SOB and his hellspawn wife, but I was better off with him in the White House. Bush? What a frickin' mess...

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: YertleTurtle (#120)

Here's the LINK to my Hatemail Page so you can read their scintillating brillance in toto.

I found a picture of Waggoner on the Internet. Stupid looking, isn't he? He's 19 and a college newspaper editor at some nothing college in Podunk, Kansas. He's not in Iraq and not in the military. Know why? Because Roy is a pussy.

LOL, I love it!


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2006-05-09   21:34:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Flintlock (#140)

LOL, I love it!

The guy was stupid enough to put his picture on the Internet, and he apparently thought I couldn't find it.

He tried to get my server to remove the picture, and HAHAHAHA! they wouldn't do it.

"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-09   21:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Zipporah, christine, lodwick, jethro tull, Arator, TravisMcGee, any 'old' Freepers (#138)

We sure were worked weren't we?

Speaking of worked, check out this "HOLY SH*T!" alert:..."Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair"...when the hell did THIS happen???

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: robin (#126)

"Jimi" Hendrix (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970)

Thanks - (I knew that):-)

Dang it.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-09   21:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Dakmar (#134)

enjoy! :)

Sure did...even on dial-up...thanks!

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: who knows what evil (#142)

If Hair is part of the MM, it's compromised.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-09   21:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: who knows what evil (#142)

Speaking of worked, check out this "HOLY SH*T!" alert:..."Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair"...when the hell did THIS happen???

WHAT??! Hmm let's see what this COULD mean.. infilitrator?

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Jethro Tull (#145)

If Hair is part of the MM, it's compromised.

My same thought.. good gawd. NOW the thread on LP re immigration makes sense does it not??

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: YertleTurtle (#141)

He tried to get my server to remove the picture, and HAHAHAHA! they wouldn't do it.

What a complete dork, he's a natural, genuine Freeptard.

Note to Roy: Boy, you win some, you lose some, now get your chickenhawk ass down to the army recruiter....pronto!


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2006-05-09   21:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Jethro Tull (#145)

If Hair is part of the MM, it's compromised.

VERY FIRST thought that crossed my mind. She's involved with "building the fence". Can Alan Keyes and Larry Klayman be far behind?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Dakmar (#134)

white minority


I want to be the minority
I don't need your authority
Down with the moral majority
'Cause I want to be the minority


Stepped out of the line
Like a sheep runs from the herd
Marching out of time
To my own beat now
The only way I know

********
Fuck 'em all
You are your own sight


I want to be the minority
I don't need your authority
Down with the moral majority
'Cause I want to be the minority

"Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence." ---General Jack D. Ripper

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   21:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: who knows what evil, all (#142)

Connie Hair - Minuteman spokeswoman

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-09   21:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: who knows what evil (#149)

She, in large part, made LP a neocon haven.

NTBT = Not to be trusted.

So much for the MM.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-09   21:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: lodwick (#143)

I knew you knew.

Reminds me of this s/w engineer from PA with a full red beard and really long golden hair. He had this wall poster of Jimi in his office. Whenever he worked late he would take out his electric guitar and play louder than the spanish-only speaking janitorial crew could tolerate. I don't think he even heard the vacuuming.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-09   21:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Zipporah (#147)

My same thought.. good gawd. NOW the thread on LP re immigration makes sense does it not??

Judas priest...Morris Dees has her photo up at the Southern Poverty Law Center website. She's only 48?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Jethro Tull (#152)

oh my..how did u find that?

christine  posted on  2006-05-09   21:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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