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Title: US GOVT GIVING INFO TO MEXICO - FREEPERS GONE WILD
Source: FREEPERLAND
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629359/posts?q=1&&page=151
Published: May 9, 2006
Author: Mehitable Storm
Post Date: 2006-05-09 17:23:34 by mehitable
Keywords: None
Views: 8629
Comments: 231

To: Idisarthur Attention:

Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting on FR. Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.

178 posted on 05/09/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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They're going nuts over in FReeperville about this report that the US Govt has been giving info directly to the Mexican govt on various Minuteman groups in the US. Michele Malkin has some info: SNITCHING & SPYING FOR MEXICO By Michelle Malkin · May 09, 2006 12:55 PM I'll keep updating my first post on this subject with reader feedback. Meantime, the Minutemen Blog has details not reported by the Daily Bulletin: Sara Carter, a reporter with the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, reports today that she found documentation on Mexican government websites that show higher ups in the United States Border Patrol have been tipping off the corrupt Mexican government as to the locations of the Minutemen along the border. This article does not report information told to the MCDC media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massachusetts and Tennessee. Perhaps a follow-up story is coming tomorrow or an over zealous editor took the info out? Part of a report distributed last August to the Mexican government from Border Patrol bureaucrats read over the phone to the MCDC media offices contained not only numbers (estimated chapter membership) of Minutemen in Illinois, but a statement on their activities and that they didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating that the Illinois Minutemen didn't yet have any political clout. That is not a report on the location of Minutemen at the border, but political intelligence from our government to a foreign nation about the activities of American citizens petitioning our own government for redress of grievances. The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps media offices will contact the reporter to inquire about copies of the documents and the timing on a follow-up story with the reports to the Mexican government of activities of Minutemen in INTERIOR states, as if reports of our locations in the border states weren't bad enough. ****** Big Jim had to lay the hammer down...no more of that dere impeachment talk....

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#1. To: mehitable (#0)

WHOA.. reading just some of that thread.. hard to chose the best of the worst as RimJob would consider them.. but here's is a couple good ones:

Doctor Stochastic

"If the Minutemen do nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear. The government spies on everyone else, why should they be exempt?"

We are not to fear our Government, the Government is to fear us... what a great Tory you would make.. :-(

170 posted on 05/09/2006 2:07:25 PM PDT by Refinersfire

To: SandfleaCSC

Up until I saw this story I supported The Patriot Act if this story is true The Patriot Act is being abused by the administration I trusted to have it.

176 posted on 05/09/2006 2:09:43 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)

To: JeffAtlanta

"The worst part is that the GOP isn't going to even get the votes out of this. The Balkanization of the country just for cheap labor and to fulfill a NWO fantasy is criminal."

Well put, my friend.

184 posted on 05/09/2006 2:12:55 PM PDT by Tarkus2040 (We need more Patton and less patent leather! --Michael Savage)

To: Dane

"Oops I forgot Cong. tancredo worked there for 12 years, why would he put his comrades out of work."

Nice try Dane.. but the article is about the Government acting in a illegal and improper manner.. and if anyone is protecting his comrades, all one has to do is look towards your President.. end of story..

186 posted on 05/09/2006 2:13:10 PM PDT by Refinersfire

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   17:30:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Dane is such a tool - he seems to be the only NWOer on this thread though. The rest of them are hoppin' mad, and most of them are hard core bots. Jim's gonna have to put some of those Ben Hur spikes on his wheels and run 'em down.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-09   17:35:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Dane is such a tool - he seems to be the only NWOer on this thread though. The rest of them are hoppin' mad, and most of them are hard core bots. Jim's gonna have to put some of those Ben Hur spikes on his wheels and run 'em down.

No doubt a change agent..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   17:41:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Man, this is a great thread. A water-shed thread. They're just ignoring RimJob completely. He must be going nuts in his little booth over there. The sheep are breaking free!!!

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-09   17:44:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Man, this is a great thread. A water-shed thread. They're just ignoring RimJob completely. He must be going nuts in his little booth over there. The sheep are breaking free!!!

I know.. hilarious.. JimRob is a non entity.. I didnt see one reply to him LOL!! I bet he's rolling around his motorhome in circles. ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   17:52:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To: Arizona Carolyn Lou Dobbs is a Bush hating Marxist tool. Be careful who you go to bed with. You're being used.

261 posted on 05/09/2006 2:57:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 258 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

AAAARRGGGGGGHHHHHH....Avast ye lubbers...walk the plank!!!! RimJob needs to up the meds.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-09   17:55:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Lou Dobbs is a Bush hating Marxist tool.

To Jim Rob, "Marxist" and "Bush hating" are synonyms.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   18:06:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To Jim Rob, "Marxist" and "Bush hating" are synonyms.

He's trying to keep the dam from breaking.. he doesn't have enough 'fingers'..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   18:30:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Check this out y'all. It's a website run by the Mexican government External Relations Ministery entitled, "Actions of the Mexican government relating to vigilantism," by which they mean the Minutemen.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   18:47:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Check this out y'all. It's a website run by the Mexican government External Relations Ministery entitled, "Actions of the Mexican government relating to vigilantism," by which they mean the Minutemen.

Now you know what's going to happen dont ya?? You're going to have to translate it :P

(btw~ "y'all".. ?? ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   18:50:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's another interesting excerpt:

El Departamento de Seguridad Interna de Estados Unidos reitera que corresponde a las autoridades realizar las funciones de patrullaje en la frontera

El pasado 21 de julio, diversos medios de comunicaciÃn dieron a conocer las declaraciones realizadas por el Comisionado del Departamento de Aduanas y ProtecciÃn Fronteriza de Estados Unidos, Robert Bonner, relativas a la posible inclusiÃn de voluntarios civiles a las actividades de la Patrulla Fronteriza.

Ese mismo d½a, el Gobierno de M¹xico, a trav¹s de nuestra Embajada en Washington, entregà una Nota Diplom±tica m±s al Departamento de Estado de Estados Unidos en la que manifestà que la posibilidad de tener voluntarios cooperando con las autoridades del Departamento de Seguridad Interna en asuntos de inmigraciÃn y frontera, afectar½a severamente nuestra capacidad para el futuro desarrollo de la cooperaciÃn sobre dichos temas y solicità realizar las aclaraciones correspondientes.

De igual modo, el Gobierno de M¹xico reiterà su preocupaciÃn por las repercusiones de la difusiÃn de las ideas y acciones de los grupos de vigilantes sobre los derechos fundamentales de los nacionales mexicanos, y enfatizà que la presencia de dichos grupos agrava el clima de intranquilidad y tensiÃn que prevalece en la frontera.

Como respuesta, la tarde del propio 21 de julio el Departamento de Seguridad Interna de Estados Unidos expresÃ, a trav¹s de un comunicado de prensa, que las declaraciones del Comisionado Bonner no representaban una posiciÃn oficial.

The US Department of Homeland Security reiterates that it is up to the proper authorities to conduct border patrols

Last July 21, statements made by the Commissioner for the Customs and Border Protection of the United States, Robert Bonner, were published by various means of communication, regarding possible inclusion of civilian volunteers in the activities of the Border Patrol.

That same day (ay caramba!!!) the Government of Mexico, through our Embassy in Washington, delivered a diplomatic note to the US State Department wherein it was made clear that the possibility of having volunteers cooperating with the Department of Homeland Security authorities in matters of immigration and the border, could severely affect our capacity for future development of cooperation in these areas and which solicited relevant clarification.

In the same way, the Government of Mexico (Arriba! Andale!) reiterated its concern for the repercussions of the diffusion of the ideas and actions of vigilante groups (suppress them, Jorge!) on the fundamental rights (Cough!!!) of Mexican nationals and emphasized that the presence of said groups aggravates the climate of unease and tension that prevails at the border. (And yeah, and we gonna increase it too, if you don't meet our demands!)

In response, that same afternoon of July 21, the US Homeland Security Department declared, through a press release, that the remarks of Commissioner Bonner did not represent an official position. (Oh, si, señor! Whatever you say!)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   19:57:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW here is a link to Vicente Fox' speech in Madrid it was in 2002:

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/actividades/?contenido=3080

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   20:40:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW here is a link to Vicente Fox' speech in Madrid it was in 2002:

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/actividades/?contenido=3080

Well, lemme take this nibble (it flabbergasted me):

El segundo eje de la política exterior de México ha sido la construcción de una asociación estratégica para la prosperidad con Estados Unidos y con Canadá, partiendo de una relación ya estrecha que descansa en el Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte y que está articulada en torno a una visión integral de largo plazo y conceptualmente novedosa.

La densidad y complejidad de los temas de nuestra agenda bilateral con Estados Unidos, tal y como es normal que suceda entre dos vecinos y socios tan asimétricos, tiene una dimensión particular por la presencia de amplias comunidades mexicanas asentadas en ese país, más de 20 millones de paisanos.

En los últimos meses hemos logrado ir mejorando la situación de muchos mexicanos en ese país, independientemente de su situación migratoria, a través de esquemas que les han permito acceder a los sistemas educativos y de salud, así como a documentos de identidad, al igual que pleno respeto a sus derechos laborales y a sus derechos humanos.

Todo esto ha significado en el último año un avance conceptual extraordinario en las relaciones entre nuestros dos países, particularmente en el tema migratorio y en la importancia de caminar paulatinamente hacia la regularización de la situación migratoria de nuestros connacionales en Estados Unidos, un número que se estima entre tres y cuatro millones de mexicanos.

Ultimadamente nuestro objetivo de largo plazo es establecer con Estados Unidos, pero también con Canadá, nuestro otro socio regional, un conjunto de vínculos e instituciones similares a los creados por la Unión Europea, con el fin de atender temas tan importantes para la futura prosperidad de Norteamérica, como la libertad de movimiento de capitales, bienes, servicios y personas.

Si bien éste es un objetivo que se antoja difícil, se trata de sentar visionariamente las bases de nuestra relación con un horizonte de 25 años.

The second axis of Mexico's foreign relations has been the construction of a strategic association for prosperity with the US and with Canada, starting from a already close relationship resting in NAFTA and which expresses an holistic vision of great scope and conceptual novelty.

The gravity and complexity of the issues in our bilateral agenda with the US, which is normal between two neighbors and associates that are so mismatched, has a particular dimension in the presence of many Mexican communities residing in that country, more than 20 million of our countrymen.

In the last few months, we have succeeded in improving the situation of many Mexicans in that country, regardless of their immigration status, through schemes that have allowed them access to educational and health systems, as well as identification documents, and also full recognition of their labor rights and human rights.

All this has represented in the last year an extraordinary conceptual advance in the relationship between our two countries, particularly on the issue of immigration and the importance of progressing step by step towards the regularization of the immigrant status of our fellow citizens in the US, a number estimated between three and four million Mexicans.

Ultimately our long range goal is to establish with the US, and also with Canada, our other regional partner, a complex of ties and institutions similar to those created for the European Union, with the aim to take care of these issues which are so important for the future prosperity of North America, such as the free movement of capital, assets, services and persons.

Even if this is a goal that seems difficult, it's a matter of establishing the bases for the vision of our relationship over a course of 25 years.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So...how long y'all figure before we start referring to Clinton's two terms as "the good old days"?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:22:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So...how long y'all figure before we start referring to Clinton's two terms as "the good old days"?

I've already starting doing it. I still hate Clinton---unashamedly. Did we have it better under him? Goddam hell yes we did.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-09   21:26:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've already starting doing it. I still hate Clinton---unashamedly. Did we have it better under him? Goddam hell yes we did.

You KNOW it's bad when so many are on the same wave length re Clinton.. We sure were worked weren't we?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   21:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

We sure were worked weren't we?

Speaking of worked, check out this "HOLY SH*T!" alert:..."Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair"...when the hell did THIS happen???

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-09   21:40:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If Hair is part of the MM, it's compromised.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-09   21:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If Hair is part of the MM, it's compromised.

If her kid is still in Iraq, I hope Juba gets him......Ha, Ha, Ha!

Flintlock  posted on  2006-05-09   21:55:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't know she had a kid. I am in search of her porn flicks, tho.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-09   22:16:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't know she had a kid. I am in search of her porn flicks, tho.

Now dont you find it interesting that B movies were mentioned and not those?? If Dees was looking for dirt.. wouldnt it seem that those would be mentioned?? Odd..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-09   22:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I was led to believe a long time back, i.e., shortly after joinging TOS1 that she worked at a studio (Paramount maybe)....but like a secy or assistant of osome kind in production, but not an actress.

Could have done an 'extra' or something.

IIRC, Deb was one who had done some acting. Her husband IS a film star.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-09   23:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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