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Title: Glenn Greenwald Exposes Deep State Effort To Stop Trump Pardoning Edward Snowden And Julian Assange
Source: The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political ... ning-edward-snowden-and-julian
Published: Jan 17, 2022
Author: Adam Dick
Post Date: 2022-01-17 15:59:22 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 1180
Comments: 14

There was much speculation toward the end of Donald Trump’s term as president of the United States that Trump would pardon Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, or both of these men who were responsible for exposing vast amounts of wrongdoing by the US government. But, it did not come to pass. Why? Glenn Greenwald, who played a key role in helping Snowden expose information about the US government’s mass surveillance programs and who advocated in public and behind the scenes that Trump pardon both men, has some interesting thoughts about that.

The reason Trump failed to issue a pardon for either Snowden or Assange centers on the deep state trying to protect itself by placing Trump in jeopardy, suggested Greenwald last week in an episode of his System Update show.

In a written introduction for the episode, Greenwald notes that Trump, while president, had both “raised the possibility that he might pardon Snowden” and was “actively considering a pardon for Assange.”

Greenwald, in the introduction, zeros in on a recent interview of Trump by Candace Owens. In the interview, Trump stated he came “very close” to pardoning one of them but did not ultimately do so. Why? Trump said the reason was because Trump “was too nice” to issue the pardon.

Greenwald isn’t buying that explanation. He writes:

The question that obviously emerges from that answer: too nice to whom? To the U.S. security services — the CIA, NSA and FBI — which had spent four years doing everything possible to sabotage and undermine Trump and his presidency with their concoction of Russiagate and other leaks of false accusations to their corporate media allies? Too nice to the war-mongering servants of the military-industrial complex in the establishment wings of both parties who were the allies of those security services in attempting to derail Trump's America First foreign policy agenda? Too nice to John Brennan, James Clapper and Susan Rice, the Obama-era security officials most eager to see both Assange and Snowden rot in prison for life because they exposed Obama's spying crimes and the Democrats’ corruption in 2016? Trump's “I'm too nice” explanation is, shall we say, less than persuasive.

In the System Update episode, Greenwald further explains that Trump’s enmity toward these deep state forces that helped lead Greenwald and many other individuals to think that Trump may issue the pardons:

Now the argument for why President Trump not only should have pardoned Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, but why some of us believed there was a chance that he could didn't rely on the benevolence of President Trump. It relied on the fact that he knew better than anybody how deceitful and abusive and dangerous these agencies are. The agencies that were exposed by Snowden and Assange and the ones that were demanding that they be imprisoned forever. He knew, as well as anybody, the treachery and the illegal interference in our domestic politics because he was one of their targets.

Yet, the pardons did not materialize. Why? Greenwald states that Greenwald “knew that Trump wanted to pardon Edward Snowden and had strongly considered pardoning Julian Assange.” But, continues Greenwald, Trump “got scared into pardoning neither of them for reasons I'm about to explain to you.” Greenwald then argues that ultimately Trump gave in to deep state pressure applied through Republican Senators’ threat to convict Trump on the impeachment brought against him in his final weeks in office. Says Greenwald:

They were making very clear to him explicitly clear Republican senators like Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio and Mitch McConnell that if you do any of those things that you are considering doing, pardoning Assange and Snowden, declassifying JFK files, declassifying other secrets that should have been declassified long ago because they're from decades old treachery on the part of the US government, we will vote to impeach you. They had this leverage the sword of Damocles hanging over his head….

“This is the story of why the deep state yet again got its way,” concludes Greenwald in his System Update episode, “even with a person in the White House who knows firsthand just how evil and destructive and toxic they are.”

Watch the System Update episode, and read the introduction and transcript, here.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

...we will vote to impeach you.

I don't buy that. It takes a 2/3rd senate vote to convict and that many Republicans are not going to jeopardize their getting reelected by offending so many Trump supporters. Trump would talk a good talk but everything Trump did was in support of the deep state.

DWornock  posted on  2022-01-17   16:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: DWornock (#1)

Trump was nowhere near of being in-the-loop of the deep state. He knows better now.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2022-01-17   17:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Esso (#2)

Trump was nowhere near of being in-the-loop of the deep state. He knows better now.

Yeah. The Deep State are all those payrollers who are working toward their retirement. And they will throw a monkey wrench in your works at the slightest hint that you might threaten that retirement.

Trump screwed up and hopefully has learned his lesson. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-17   17:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: DWornock (#1)

Trump would talk a good talk but everything Trump did was in support of the deep state.

When is the last time you dropped a tab of LSD? You sure are hallucinating on that line. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-17   17:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings, DWornock, 4um (#4) (Edited)

When is the last time you dropped a tab of LSD? You sure are hallucinating on that line.

You're better than that, Jim. Don't do it again. Trump was an outsider, he didn't know.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2022-01-17   18:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Esso (#5)

Trump was an outsider, he didn't know.

True, but Pence screwed up reading the Electoral College results. He could have refused to read certain states which were disputed, which he did not do.

There is precedent. In 1800 Thomas Jefferson refused to read the Electoral College results from Georgia. This gave him the win over Arron Burr.

And you yourself have that coffee mug which says, "JOE YOU KNOW I WON". ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-17   19:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6) (Edited)

Pence screwed up reading the Electoral College results.

He didn't want to have himself and his family killed.

Been done before, remember?

And you yourself have that coffee mug which says, "JOE YOU KNOW I WON".

If the left hand of the company figures out what I'm doing, I'm sure I'll commit suicide by shooting myself in the back of my head five times.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2022-01-17   19:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#7)

He didn't want to have himself and his family killed.

Can you imagine that? These scum would do anything, even commit murder, just to stay in power.

Joe Biden is merely a seat warmer, and I seriously doubt he will finish his term because of the 25th Amendment. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-17   19:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#8)

Can you imagine that?

Yes and no.

These scum would do anything, even commit murder, just to stay in power.

I'm gonna have to spend about a thousand bux tomorrow to help a friend out and maintain a low profile.

Ephesians 2: 8-10 says I'm wasting my money. Fuck it. It feels like the right thing to do.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2022-01-17   19:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Anybody who thinks Tromp was a sincere, committed conserv is tripping on something nice -- can I have some?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-01-17   21:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

Anybody who thinks Tromp was a sincere, committed conserv is tripping on something nice -- can I have some?

Trump beat the odds when he was sworn in as POTUS in 2017. If Hidabeast had won this country would be further in the shitter than it now is under Bidette. And Melania Trump brought The Lord's Prayer back into the halls of Congress. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-20   7:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BTP Holdings (#11)

Won't work anymore, B -- comparisonism. He was so evil on his own terms the Hellary factor is irrelevant.

He's bad. Really, really bad!

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-01-20   8:07:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

comparisonism

I looked that up and the definition for comparison is as follows:

the quality of being similar or equivalent.
"if you want a thrill, there's no comparison to climbing on a truck and going out there on the expressway"

I've been there and done that. Plenty of thrills and chills. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-01-20   16:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

I'll take the thrills ;)

_____________________________________________________________

USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-01-20   17:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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