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Title: All in the Face
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Daily Telegraph
URL Source: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/s ... 20281,19092596-5001022,00.html
Published: May 11, 2006
Author: Julie Wheldon
Post Date: 2006-05-12 01:35:48 by Peetie Wheatstraw
Keywords: None
Views: 297
Comments: 68
WOMEN can work out if a man will make a good father just by looking at his face, new research reveals. Even studying a photograph gives them subconscious clues that he likes children and is therefore a good long-term partner. Scientists behind the discovery believe it adds an important dimension to knowledge about mate selection among humans. They say women judge a man on his genetic quality as well as his willingness to be a good parent for her offspring. And their studies show keen ladies use masculine features as a guide to genetic quality. When at their most fertile, they are especially attracted to men with features such as strong jaws. But at other times of the month women prefer more feminine faces – as softer features suggest a man will be a good long-term partner and help care for any children. Researchers at St Andrew's University have even come up with the face of the perfect man, whose softer, more feminine features reflected a more nurturing side. They concluded that the ideal partner should have a symmetrical face, large deep and expressive eyes, a straight nose and soft jaw. A team from the University of California, Santa Barbara, took it a step further – and analysed how accurate women were at reading a man's face for clues to testosterone levels and interest in children. First they took 39 men aged 18 to 33 and tested their hormone levels. The men were shown pairs of adult and infant faces and had to say which they found most appealing. This was designed to show whether they had a natural liking for children. A group of 29 women aged around 18 were then given snaps of the men and asked to rate them. They were told to point out if they thought each male liked children, was masculine, physically attractive or kind. They also rated how attractive they would be as a short-term partner and a long-term mate. The study, published today in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, showed women were able to spot which men liked babies. Those who women considered would be good with older children also scored highly on the baby affinity test. Likewise they pointed out which men had the highest testosterone levels, as they tended to rate them as more masculine. As expected, they found the masculine faces more attractive as short-term mates. Intriguingly, even though all the men were asked to make a neutral expression for the photos, women thought those who liked children looked happier than those who did not seem interested. Northumbria University evolutionary psychologist Dr Nick Neave said: "It seems that women can tell an awful lot from a man's face. "The paper is a step forward in our understanding – but it does not go all the way to answering questions about just what makes someone a good parent or perfect partner."
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#1. To: All, Zipporah, christine, Diana, robin, mehitable, rowdee, fatidic (#0)
Prepare yourselves. This is the perfect male face: It also amazingly looks just like a clean-shaven version of me.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
You can't tell the right side of my face from the left side---it's so symmetrical---I even exchange each side for the other sometimes just for fun---to see if anyone notices---they never do... My eyes are large as saucers, absolutely sunken they're so deep, and so expressive---they reflect the entire range of human emotion---in the blink of an eye. I have a naturally straight nose---no rhinoplasty. My jaw is softly nestled amongst my multiple chins. Just FYI.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Perfect for someone....I'm sure....just not this woman. Poor lad looks like a hip version of a pharoah wannabe..........or a female impersonator sans wig and dangly ear rings......maybe a showgirl wannabe from Vegas?
Poor lad looks like a hip version of a pharoah wannabe..........or a female impersonator sans wig and dangly ear rings......maybe a showgirl wannabe from Vegas? This portion of the article claims that what you find attractive as a woman in a man depends on what time of the month it is: And their studies show keen ladies use masculine features as a guide to genetic quality. When at their most fertile, they are especially attracted to men with features such as strong jaws. But at other times of the month women prefer more feminine faces – as softer features suggest a man will be a good long-term partner and help care for any children. Researchers at St Andrew's University have even come up with the face of the perfect man, whose softer, more feminine features reflected a more nurturing side.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Picture looks like a faggot with a bad haircut.
"I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
Sans the lipstick? :P I swear it looks like this 'guy' has on lipstick LOL
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Seems to me a lot of women are settling for a men to father their children who are very low down on the list of commendable criteria.
That's a boy or a woman.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] lol! 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth, 1 chin - a winner!
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] ...well 1 jaw.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] Oh, now, really! We....I mean, he...just use a little lip gloss... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
How do they get funding for this crap and where do I get mine? I could make up a study about people who make up studies. What kind of face would a researcher be most likely to have who is most effective at milking government grants? Is a long brown nose helpful or hindering?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Here's the sum and substance of what the article says: Women at their most fertile chose studly, masculine guys to have one night stands with and to father children. After they get pregnant, they chose wimpy, "sensitive" PW guys to help them look after the brats the stud has fathered. No? ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
women can work out?? huh?
He better have chocolate ears.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Don't you wanna comment on how faggy the "ideal man" looks? Go ahead---hurt me... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Oh we're just a tad more complicated than that. What frustrates you is that we have y'all figured-out. You'll never figure us out.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] I think he looks like Mahmoud...the sensitive terrorist.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Besides, Peetie, I bet you don't look anything like Mahmoud....I bet you have blue eyes.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Well, in legitimate, consensual situations, yours is the sex that almost always gets to choose... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Yes! That's who he is. DHS will be wiretapping every woman whose pupils dilated while looking at this photo.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] I just felt my ears melting... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Only by elimination.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] LOL!!!!
Touché, robin. :)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
i know this. smart man. you do too. :P
Green/hazel. Recessive gene carrier. Both my kids have blue eyes.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Madeline Kahn from "Young Frankenstein" sings it best, sweet mystery... Ohhh! Aaaahh!....Oh sweet mystery of life at last I have found you (apologies to Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy )
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] Only by elimination. "Eenie, meenie, miney, mo, Who's the teeny one? He's got to GO!!!!" :P
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
or stay, it all depends
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] Poor lad looks like a hip version of a pharoah wannabe..........or a female impersonator sans wig and dangly ear rings......maybe a showgirl wannabe from Vegas? I took a lot of grief for being a pretty boy in my day, too. You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down.
Oh my ..you were a hottie. ;)
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Aww, how sweet! Thank you!
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down.
You look like a goyishe Randi Newman. :P
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Thank you! Ya gotta give credit where credit is due .. ;)
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Well, we both know the operative word here, don't we? ;)
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down.
Oh, if you must! ;)
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down.
Well the next question is are ya still?? ;)
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Well, after the explosion I can only go out at night, and only then with my phantom mask. (I don't want to frighten children) You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down.
(I don't want to frighten children) LOL!!!
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Well, I don't have to contemplate what time of the month it is to know what does and does not turn me on. And on the worst day of my life, the young man pictured wouldn't fit into my dreams. And I don't go for the good lookin, i.e., star types.
Let's just say that this is the opinion of a bunch of californicate's liberal academia's findings or opinion based on some 'study' they allegedly did.
Any study that depends on a computer generated image to determine "what women want"....doesn't understand women.... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Spoken from one who knows ;)
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
yup.
Women at their most fertile chose studly, masculine guys to have one night stands with and to father children. After they get pregnant, they chose wimpy, "sensitive" PW guys to help them look after the brats the stud has fathered. I agree with your summation, but i don't think it holds water as there aren't many men who fit those descriptions who are available to the majority of women, most of whom are fat hogs and sluts (imo). Also, this study says nothing about intelliegent women who select men for their brains and money.
Well, the article gave no indication that you were part of the study, fatidic... ;)
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Fat hogs and sluts?? But you are right.. re women who are attracted to men more for their 'brains' .. I read a similiar study that showed the perfect female .. that men are attracted to.. this is more biological than logic.
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
You're sweet, Peetie. Isn't it a bit tiresome to usually be in the minority? I'm just not mainstream on anything. (sigh)
Well, too many people are resembling beach balls nowadays. And, as to the "sluts" part it just seems that fornicating is the rule and adultry rather than chastity and modesty and fidelity.
Well I will say that way too many women don't use temperance in regard to food.. But on adultery statistically it's not as high as some would think: It's tough to get a handle on how many of us are having affairs, given the inherent secrecy. "The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Well, there're basically two kinds of men: Those who come into your life, sweep you off your feet, walk all over your heart and then leave; and... those who aren't willing to make that kind of commitment...! :P
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Those who come into your life, sweep you off your feet, walk all over your heart and then leave; and... those who aren't willing to make that kind of commitment...! :P You're awful LOL!!!
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
Those who come into your life, sweep you off your feet, walk all over your heart and then leave; and... those who aren't willing to make that kind of commitment...! :P LOL. I agree with Zip, you are awful (funny, that is).
This is my hyper-manly self. Notice the rugged yet somehow mezmering handsome countenance, the steely blue eyes, the aquiline nose, the cruel mouth, the square, manly jaw...my God, I'm a gushing fountain of testosterone! No wonder I get the babes in truckloads! When you can beat out Sean Connery, Mel Gibson and Brad Pitt, life is good! "I aim to misbehave" -- Mal Reynolds, Firefly
A result of the "we're all the same" concept that we have all been beaten over the head with. In past eras the selection of husbands was carefully considered, with parents involved in deciding who their daughters would marry based on factors such as family background, character and education. My grandparents steered their daughters away from men they considered not good husband material, and had a lot of influence on who they ended up marrying. They were on to something as my aunts ended up having happy, lasting marriages producing healthy, bright and stable children.
It's that low forehead...
That Pat Tillman guy who died in Iraq looked almost scary to me, I'd say he was a born to be a warrior.
Be Still My Heart!
interesting statistics. People generally believe adultery is morally wrong, yet they do it anyway.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Diana, absolutely excellent point. Most people have relatives who are pretty decent people (although the media tries to beat it into our heads that all famlies are dysfunctional - and certainly we've become more so since the 60s). Your relatives can sometimes assess a situation far better than you can. How many times has someone brought home a new boy/girl friend and the parents know right off that it's not going to work, or that this person has real problems or lack of potential as a mate? They can see it. But we're too much involved with this whole idea of marrying for romantic love to be able to think clearly. The society has been inundated with this crazy, unworkable idea of just marrying for romantic/sexual love that actually doesn't work frequently over a long haul or where there are children involved. That's why people should listen to their relatives about their romantic choices (assuming there is no real problem with the parents), as they do have their children's best interests at heart and they're viewing the situation from a more removed perspective. Frankly, when they've done studies, usually arranged marriages work out at least as well in those countries that still practice it, as our marriages for love. The reason being that the marriages are contracted with practical considerations by people who care about both the bride and groom and who want the best for them. I've always been a big fan of arranged marriage and I think it would benefit our society greatly if we were to re-consider this method of getting people together.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
And I would add, contracted by people who have their own experience with marriage, managing a household, earning the keep, raising kids. They know that "love" is nice but doesn't pay the bills, and that a marriage isn't one big, long honeymoon.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy
Unfortunately my grandparents were the opposite of yours...not at all protesting my mother and her sister marrying the worst kind of men...i mean meanest, most vile you can imagine. There have always been weak, foolish and uncaring people in any age, any society and it is a tragedy that so many women allow men to abuse them and father their children and abuse them too.
Believe it or not, I look exactly like that now, only I have to shave.
Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."
hey.. sh*t happens... :P
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass
I wonder how many fundie christians are into adultery right now. There are hypocrites born every minute.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Yep.. And that's why it's not a good thing to judge people.. you just never know what your future holds..
#2. To: All, Zipporah, christine, Diana, robin, mehitable, rowdee, fatidic (#0)
They concluded that the ideal partner should have a symmetrical face, large deep and expressive eyes, a straight nose and soft jaw.
#3. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)
#4. To: rowdee (#3)
Perfect for someone....I'm sure....just not this woman.
#5. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
#6. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)
It also amazingly looks just like a clean-shaven version of me.
#7. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
WOMEN can work out if a man will make a good father just by looking at his face, new research reveals.
#8. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)
#9. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#2)
#10. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#9)
#11. To: Zipporah (#6)
Sans the lipstick? :P I swear it looks like this 'guy' has on lipstick LOL
#12. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
#13. To: fatidic, robin, Zipporah, rowdee (#7)
Seems to me a lot of women are settling for a men to father their children who are very low down on the list of commendable criteria.
#14. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)
WOMEN can work out
#15. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
This portion of the article claims that what you find attractive as a woman in a man depends on what time of the month it is:
#16. To: mehitable (#12)
How do they get funding for this crap and where do I get mine? I could make up a study about people who make up studies. What kind of face would a researcher be most likely to have who is most effective at milking government grants? Is a long brown nose helpful or hindering?
#17. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#13)
#18. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#16)
#19. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#16)
#20. To: christine (#14)
women can work out?? huh?
#21. To: mehitable (#18)
I think he looks like Mahmoud...the sensitive terrorist.
#22. To: mehitable (#15)
He better have chocolate ears.
#23. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#20)
gets to choose
#24. To: mehitable (#15)
He better have chocolate ears.
#25. To: robin (#17)
Oh we're just a tad more complicated than that. What frustrates you is that we have y'all figured-out. You'll never figure us out.
#26. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#20)
yours is the sex that almost always gets to choose
#27. To: mehitable (#19)
Besides, Peetie, I bet you don't look anything like Mahmoud....I bet you have blue eyes.
#28. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#25)
#29. To: robin (#23)
gets to choose
#30. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#29)
#31. To: rowdee, robin, christine, Zipporah (#3)
Perfect for someone....I'm sure....just not this woman.
#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#31)
I took a lot of grief for being a pretty boy in my day, too.
#33. To: Zipporah (#32)
Oh my ..you were a hottie. ;)
#34. To: HOUNDDAWG (#31)
#35. To: HOUNDDAWG (#33)
Aww, how sweet!
#36. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#34)
You look like a goyishe Randi Newman. :P
#37. To: Zipporah (#35)
Ya gotta give credit where credit is due .. ;)
#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
Oh, if you must! ;)
#39. To: Zipporah (#38)
Well the next question is are ya still?? ;)
#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#39)
Well, after the explosion I can only go out at night, and only then with my phantom mask.
#41. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
#42. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#13)
#43. To: rowdee (#42)
Let's just say that this is the opinion of a bunch of californicate's liberal academia's findings or opinion based on some 'study' they allegedly did.
#44. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#43)
Any study that depends on a computer generated image to determine "what women want"....doesn't understand women.... ;)
#45. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#43)
#46. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#13)
Here's the sum and substance of what the article says:
#47. To: fatidic (#46)
this study says nothing about intelliegent women who select men for their brains and money.
#48. To: fatidic (#46)
i don't think it holds water as there aren't many men who fit those descriptions who are available to the majority of women, most of whom are fat hogs and sluts (imo). Also, this study says nothing about intelliegent women who select men for their brains and money.
#49. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#47)
Well, the article gave no indication that you were part of the study, fatidic... ;)
#50. To: Zipporah (#48)
Fat hogs and sluts??
#51. To: fatidic (#50)
Well, too many people are resembling beach balls nowadays. And, as to the "sluts" part it just seems that fornicating is the rule and adultry rather than chastity and modesty and fidelity.
What Do Infidelity Statistics Mean?
#52. To: Zipporah, christine, Diana, fatidic, robin, rowdee, mehitable (#51)
#53. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#52)
Well, there're basically two kinds of men:
#54. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#52)
Well, there're basically two kinds of men:
#55. To: christine (#14)
#56. To: fatidic, Peetie Wheatstraw (#7)
Seems to me a lot of women are settling for a men to father their children who are very low down on the list of commendable criteria.
#57. To: mehitable (#18)
I think he looks like Mahmoud...the sensitive terrorist.
#58. To: robin, Peetie Wheatstraw, Zipporah, mehitable (#30)
#59. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#52)
#60. To: YertleTurtle (#55)
#61. To: Zipporah (#51)
#62. To: Diana (#56)
#63. To: mehitable, Diana (#62)
The reason being that the marriages are contracted with practical considerations by people who care about both the bride and groom and who want the best for them. I've always been a big fan of arranged marriage and I think it would benefit our society greatly if we were to re-consider this method of getting people together.
#64. To: Diana (#56)
My grandparents steered their daughters away from men they considered not good husband material, and had a lot of influence on who they ended up marrying.
#65. To: christine (#60)
Be Still My Heart!
#66. To: peteatomic (#61)
interesting statistics. People generally believe adultery is morally wrong, yet they do it anyway.
#67. To: Zipporah (#66)
#68. To: peteatomic (#67)
I wonder how many fundie christians are into adultery right now. There are hypocrites born every minute.
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