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Title: Government lawyers say Americans consented to have phone records seized
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/G ... ericans_consented_to_0512.html
Published: May 12, 2006
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2006-05-12 05:57:37 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 113
Comments: 15

Friday's Washington Post reveals the Bush Administration's legal response to relevations that tens of millions of Americans personal phone records have been acquired by the National Security Agency. Excerpts from the Post follow (Full article here).

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One government lawyer who has participated in negotiations with telecommunications providers said the Bush administration has argued that a company can turn over its entire database of customer records -- and even the stored content of calls and e-mails -- because customers "have consented to that" when they establish accounts. The fine print of many telephone and Internet service contracts includes catchall provisions, the lawyer said, authorizing the company to disclose such records to protect public safety or national security, or in compliance with a lawful government request.

"It is within their terms of service because you have consented to that," the lawyer said. If the company also consents, "and they do it voluntarily, the U.S. government can accept it."

Verizon's customer agreement, for example, acknowledges the company's "duty under federal law to protect the confidentiality of information about the quantity, technical configuration, type, destination, and amount of your use of our service," but it provides for exceptions to "protect the safety of customers, employees or property." Verizon will disclose confidential records, it says, "as required by law, legal process, or exigent circumstances."

Like the other companies named by USA Today, Verizon declined to confirm or deny that it had turned over customer records. "We do not comment on national security matters, we act in full compliance with the law and we are committed to safeguarding our customers' privacy," spokesman Peter Thonis said in a statement. But Verizon Wireless, a joint venture with Britain's Vodafone Group PLC, flatly denied involvement in the program.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Just like we "consent" to be robbed by the internal robbery service every paycheck eh? When the government becomes the people's ADVERSARY, it places itself in danger along with its whores.



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"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-12   8:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

THESE FUCKING LIARS. It's past time for action. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO NOW!!!!

IMPEACH, INDICT, INCARCERATE!!!!

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-12   8:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

Like the other companies named by USA Today, Verizon declined to confirm or deny that it had turned over customer records. "We do not comment on national security matters, we act in full compliance with the law and we are committed to safeguarding our customers' privacy," spokesman Peter Thonis said in a statement.

That's a yes, affirmative, Verizon does turn records over to the police state in full compliance with the color of laws.

Splitends  posted on  2006-05-12   8:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

I'm sure we'll eventually "consent" to being arrested at 2 in the morning, imprisoned without counsel, held for years in dungeons and having the crap beaten out of us regularly because we continue to stay in this country and not leave. Doesn't that constitute "consent"?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-12   10:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IndieTX (#1)

Just like we "consent" to be robbed by the internal robbery service every paycheck eh? When the government becomes the people's ADVERSARY, it places itself in danger along with its whores.

Can you believe this BS?? CONSENT? I think not.. I didnt consent to anything.. And yeah we should now call this country America the Whore.

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-12   11:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

THESE FUCKING LIARS. It's past time for action. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO NOW!!!!

IMPEACH, INDICT, INCARCERATE!!!!

No shit!! They'll have to open new facilities to hold all of them.

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-12   11:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Splitends (#3)

That's a yes, affirmative, Verizon does turn records over to the police state in full compliance with the color of laws.

Yep.. 'no comment'..aka admission..!

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-12   11:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mehitable (#4)

NO KGB IN AMERIKA!

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-12   11:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#0)

I would like to see every man, woman, and child in this country, as well as those around the world lace every phone call they have, and each e-mail with at least the use of the word 'bomb'..... or 'explosive'......... or 'attack'....... or any other word that would cause these rotten bastards to pull their hair out with the meltdown.

Another of their getting caught. And having the fuckin guts to deny access to investigators on the basis of 'national security'. Der furher is alive and well---damn it.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-12   12:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rowdee (#9)

The Red Queen is on the chessboard.

The game will begin.

Alice goes down the rabbit hole at 1/6/06 at 6 p.m.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-12   13:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rowdee (#9)

I would like to see every man, woman, and child in this country, as well as those around the world lace every phone call they have, and each e-mail with at least the use of the word 'bomb'..... or 'explosive'......... or 'attack'....... or any other word that would cause these rotten bastards to pull their hair out with the meltdown.

Allow me to begin the games.

Bill is on the sofa. The chair is my BOMB the wall. NUKE Joe called yesterday. EXPLOSIVE John went fishing and had a good catch. ATTACK The writing is on the wall. Denise has a green sweater. The NUKE weather forecast is cool and EXPLOSIVE cloudy. The outlook is for sunny skies.

LMFAO.



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"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-12   14:07:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IndieTX (#11)

ROTF............I was thinking along the lines of:

"Yeah, we went to see it......what a BOMB".
"Yeah, I would EXPLODE if that asshole did it".
"Uh-huh, just think.....it only takes a minute to NUKE nachos in the microwave".
"Yep, I heard my minister give a hell of a NITRO pill message". "Right.......my oleander BUSH is a BASTARD to keep pruned". "LOL.....DICK Head is such a jerk". "Of course, I'll bring the CONDI.........er condiments to the BBQ". "You got it, Sis.........I'd support TERRIERS any day of the week--they're so danged cute and play so hard." "Hey, Tom, did you hear that Wes got a tattoo? Yeah........WMD. Used classical script letters." "Honey, on the way home will you pick up a new BOXCUTTER".

That sort of thingie.........

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-12   16:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: swarthyguy (#10)

Gawd, I'd never make it as a crook or gubmint worker. It just now dawned on me what you were telling me!

I was flustered because I've never read Alice in Wonderland. :(

Oh well......

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-12   16:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#5)

And yeah we should now call this country America the Whore.

...or Babylon the Whore.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-12   19:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: who knows what evil (#14)

...or Babylon the Whore.

True!! Now when I hear Babylon though I think of Iraq and how the antiquities of that country have been completed destroyed.. it's sick.

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." Frederick Douglass

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-12   20:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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