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World News See other World News Articles Title: Even US Denounces Bellingcat “Negotiation Poisoning” Claims as Conspiracy Theory Hoax Bellingcat has gone too far this time. They’ve gotten away with just making up outrageous nonsense for years, but they’ve hit a wall here. RT: Within hours of Bellingcat’s claim on Monday that Russian tycoon Roman Abramovich and two Ukrainian negotiators may have been poisoned by Moscow to stall peace talks in Ukraine, the US government has reportedly voiced doubt. Intelligence indicates that the symptoms allegedly suffered by Abramovich and two Ukrainian officials involved in peace talks with Russia may be due to environmental factors instead, Reuters reported, citing a US government official who spoke on condition of anonymity. “The intelligence highly suggests this was environmental, not poisoning,” said the official, without elaborating. Earlier in the day, the Wall Street Journal reported that the three men had “suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning” that included “red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands,” citing people familiar with the matter. “Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons,” the UK-based outfit then said. Bellingcat’s Christo Grozev was behind the investigation, but could not get German experts to analyze the samples in time to show any traces of chemicals, according to the WSJ. Others have been skeptical of the claim as well. Ukrainian presidential adviser Mikhail Podolyak, who is involved in the talks, told Reuters “there is a lot of speculation, various conspiracy theories,” while Rustem Umerov, allegedly one of the people affected, said people should not trust “unverified information” and that he was fine. Abramovich has yet to officially address the report. The Russian oil magnate who moved to the UK and bought the football club Chelsea is rumored to be involved in a “back channel” between the Kremlin and Kiev to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, but was placed on the Western sanctions list anyway. Bellingcat has blamed Russia for the alleged poisonings of Sergey and Yulia Skripal in 2018 and blogger Alexey Navalny in 2020, both supposedly using the deadly “novichok” nerve toxin but not killing their targets. So what does that say about those other poisonings? This is like when Crowdstrike, the firm that James Comey and the rest of the rats cited as having proof that Russia hacked the DNC, got caught faking the same exact thing in the Ukraine. It was like, well, if they were faking it in the Ukraine, how are they a source that is reliable enough to base an entire conspiracy on? The claim with Navalny was that Russian secret agents poisoned his tea with a chemical weapon, but didn’t get the dose right so he survived. They said it was a team of 15 high level FSB agents involved. So these people are the boogieman, the ultimate enemy, and they get the dose of chemical weapons wrong when they’re trying to poison someone? Also, why would they poison him? Navalny was involved in organized crime in Russia his entire adult life. People involved in organized crime in Russia or any other country often get shot and no one knows who did it. It’s very easy for someone to end up with a bullet in their head and there be no evidence of anything. Political enemies in various countries also often fall off of balconies. Chemical weapons used for poisoning was always a totally insane proposition. But of course, after Bellingcat made this claim, the German government and the Western media backed them up. The fact that the institutional powers are not backing up this latest claim means that they’ve gone off the goop and are into a whole other realm of hoaxing that is now considered unproductive. Obviously, Bellingcat is an arm of Western intelligence. Just browse their Wikipedia page. So the fact that they are not operating in concert with Western intelligence just shows how chaotic this whole system is. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 6.
#1. To: Ada (#0)
In Navalny's case, what's curious to me is, if he was poisoned, why the Russian gov would allow him to fly to Germany for treatment where the poisoning would be easily discovered. I could accept that the poisoning could have been carried out as a rogue operation by elements in the Russian gov, but that's about it.
Don't know why the Russian government would want to off Navalny; but if they did, a double tap is more reliable than poison.
My impression is Navalny is Russia's version of Alex Jones, though I have no idea how accurate the guy is. He seems to make wild accusations, likely without sound or researched evidence (how could he as a solo youtuber) and each one may or may not be correct and if correct, only to a degree of some random percentage. He may well get some things very right.
Navalny is no liberal and no threat to the Russian PtBs.
Anyone who is watched by even a small single digit percentage of a country's population is a threat to those in control, if that control is authoritarian in nature.
#7. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Russia is not the USSR. They have opposition parties and people can come and go as they please. In many respects it is freer than the USA.
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