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Title: "The Illegality...Was Obvious": An Analysis Of The Carter Opinion On Jan. 6th [Trump won, so put him in prison]
Source: zerohedge
URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political ... nalysis-carter-opinion-jan-6th
Published: Apr 3, 2022
Author: Jonathan Turley
Post Date: 2022-04-03 20:57:54 by Esso
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Views: 72
Comments: 3

“The illegality of the plan was obvious.”

Those words of Judge David O. Carter in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California this week have electrified commentators across the networks and the Internet.

Judge Carter was praised for his “simple clarity” in declaring that “it is more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021.” The declarations by the court have led to a frenzy in the media and renewed calls for the prosecution of the former president.

However, there are elements to the decision that are deeply concerning on issues ranging from free speech to attorney-client privilege.

The Washington Post was quick to breathlessly declare that the time had finally come . . . again. Given the Posts long record of running professed slam dunk criminal charges against Trump that amounted to nothing, that is hardly a surprise. However, Carter’s opinion was immediately portrayed as ending all speculation. It seems now like little more than an administrative matter before Trump is marched off to the slammer.

Post columnist Jennifer Rubin declared “Carter has issued a clear invitation — almost a plea — for the Justice Department to pursue charges against both Eastman and Trump . . . [Attorney General Merrick] Garland will have an exceptionally hard time justifying a decision not to prosecute.”

If you read such columns, it is difficult to see why Trump has not been charged after two years. After all, the media heralded the statements of D.C. Attorney General Racine that he was pursuing possible charges. Yet, neither Racine nor the Biden Administration have charged Trump. Why?

The reason that hasn’t happened is that Judge Carter’s “invitation” is strikingly short of clear evidence of such criminal conduct.

Judge Carter was ruling on the disclosure of material claimed as privileged by Eastman, who advised Trump after he spoke at the Jan. 6, 2021, rally near the White House. Eastman believed Vice President Mike Pence could refuse to certify the election and send the electoral votes back to the states. Carter ruled that such legal advice failed under the “crime/fraud exception” because the president knew there was no basis for such a challenge.

As legal experts celebrate Carter’s decision as a great victory against Trump, it is important to consider the implications for both free speech and attorney-client privilege. That is not because I agree with Eastman’s claims; to the contrary, I criticized Trump’s speech as he gave it and later called for Congress to censure him. I also supported Vice President Pence’s interpretation of federal law and disagreed with Eastman’s interpretation.

Moreover, as I have repeated stated, Congress has a legitimate interest in getting a full record of what occurred on Jan. 6th. However, none of that should blind us to the dangerous elements of this decision.

Judge Carter notes that Eastman still believes that the statute is unconstitutional as written. The court simply brushes that aside and states the “ignorance of the law is no excuse” and “believing the Electoral Count Act was unconstitutional did not give President Trump license to violate it.”

More importantly, the court simply declares that Trump knew that the election was not stolen and thus “the illegality of the plan was obvious.”

Putting aside the court’s assumption of what Trump secretly concluded on the election, a sizable number of Americans still do not view Biden as legitimately elected. The court is not simply saying that they are wrong in that view but, because they are wrong, legislative challenges amounted to criminal obstruction of Congress.

In 2005, it was Democrats who alleged that a presidential election was stolen and challenged the certification in Congress of the votes in Ohio. The claim was equally frivolous but Democratic leadership praised the effort, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi who praised Sen. Barbara Boxer’s challenge and insisted that “this debate is fundamental to our democracy.”

The Democrats did not, however, demand that Vice President Dick Cheney refuse to certify, an important distinction to be sure. Jan. 6th was a desecration of our constitutional process and one of the most disgraceful days in our history.

However, the lack of factual foundation for the challenge (cited repeatedly by Judge Carter in the Trump challenge) did not make this a criminal or fraudulent effort.

Some attorneys believed (and still believe) that it was possible for Pence to refuse to certify. Holding such a legal view is not a crime and sharing that view with the White House is not a conspiracy. Indeed, Eastman and others were publicly stating essentially the same thing. That is what triggered the debate as many of us who challenged their interpretation.

Yet, Carter is conclusory and dismissive on this critical point in declaring “President Trump and Dr. Eastman justified the plan with allegations of election fraud — but President Trump likely knew the justification was baseless, and therefore that the entire plan was unlawful.” Trump is still insisting that he believes the opposite. The question is why arguing that point with Pence and others amounted to a criminal act. In the end, wiser minds prevailed and the theory was not used by Pence.

There were crimes that day, of course. Some of those at the rally rioted and were charged largely with trespass and unlawful entry. A handful have been charged with seditious conspiracy. The court does not cite any evidence that Trump directly advocated violence while noting that Trump told the crowd to peacefully go to the Hill.

Consider the implications of Carter’s opinion. There was rioting when President Trump was elected while various Democratic leaders continued to claim that he was not the legitimately elected president, a view echoed by Hillary Clinton. While they did not riot in Congress, they committed other crimes.

Under Carter’s theory, the baseless claims that Trump was not legitimately elected have been used by the Trump Administration to seize confidential legal material given to the 2005 leaders. After all, there was not a solid factual basis for these claims and they knew it. They further fueled the mob but making these claims in public.

What is particularly concerning is that none of this was necessary. The Congress has every right, indeed it has a duty, to investigate if there was a criminal conspiracy. Yet, it already knows the legal advice given by Eastman and other witnesses have testified as to what he said in critical meetings.

In the Post column, Rubin reminds readers “this is a federal court, not a pundit or politician.” Yet, at points it was hard to tell the difference. Judge Carter seemed intent on rendering judgment on what he described as a “coup” rather than a riot: “Dr. Eastman and President Trump launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election . . . Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower — it was a coup in search of a legal theory.”

That last comment was particularly interesting because it suggests that Eastman, who was dean and on the faculty of Chapman Law School, could have made the same articles as a professor. However, when he took his academic views and applied them as counsel, it somehow became part of a criminal conspiracy and attempted coup.

That is what is so disturbing about Carter’s opinion. While I agree with many aspects of Judge Carter’s decision, there is no clear limiting principle of when a legal opinion becomes a criminal conspiracy beyond the court’s predisposition of the meaning of these facts.


Poster Comment:

Apparently the new paradigm is that if somebody is going to be elected into public office that doesn't rape young children, like a a whack-job leftist, it's "A threat to democracy." That's going on in France as I tippy tap.

MUH DUMOCKRUCY!

Somebody shoot me. Please.

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“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Apparently the new paradigm is that if somebody is going to be elected into public office that doesn't rape young children, like a a whack-job leftist, it's "A threat to democracy." That's going on in France as I tippy tap.

MUH DUMOCKRUCY!

Somebody shoot me. Please.

Yeah, that makes my skin crawl too.

Again, a little truth be known about that hideous word, "democracy".

"Many of you have seen the reprint of this document. If you have, it's worth reading again. If you have not, it is worth reading, studying, and reciting to your friends, family, and neighbors. It is copied from Training Manual No. 2000-25 that was published by the then War Department, Washington, D.C., November 30, 1928.

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Official Definition of DEMOCRACY

NOTE

Here are four (4) facsimile section reproductions taken from a 156 page book officially compiled and issued by the U.S. War Department, November 30,1928, setting forth exact and truthful definitions of a Democracy and of a Republic, explaining the difference between both. These definitions were published by the authority of the United States Government and must be accepted as authentic in any court of proper jurisdiction. These precise and scholarly definitions of a Democracy and a Republic were carefully considered as a proper guide for U.S. soldiers and U.S. citizens by the Chief of Staff of the United States Army. Such definition stake precedence over any "definition" that may be found in the present commercial dictionaries which have suffered periodical "modification" to please "the powers in office. Shortly after the "bank holiday" in the thirties, hush-hush orders from the White House suddenly demanded that all copies of this book be withdrawn from the Government Printing Office and the Army posts, to be suppressed and destroyed without explanation. This was the beginning of the complete red control of the Government from within, not from without.

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Prepared under the direction of the Chief of Staff.

CITIZENSHIP

This manual supersedes Manual of Citizenship Training The use of the publication "The Constitution of the United States," by Harry Atwood, is by permission and courtesy of the author.

CITIZENSHIP Democracy:

A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic --negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy..."

fromthetrenchesworldrepor....S.ARMY-ANALYSIS-1928.pdf

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(Rep. James Traficant) The Bankruptcy of The United States

RBN

United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

“Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. *** With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, ***the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. *****This new form of government is known as a DEMOCRACY, being an established SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST ORDER under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be “money” in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or “currency.” Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not “money.” A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not “money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any “money.” Most Americans have not been paid any “money” for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are “bankrupt,” along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) – a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank..."

fromthetrenchesworldrepor...-the-united-states/283040

Fast forward to today

Senator Elizabeth Warren says “it’s time” for a centrally controlled digital currency

Reclaim the Net – by Ken Macon

In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd, Sen. Elizabeth Warren said it is time for a US CBDC (central bank digital currency).

“So a lot that banks do wrong, if you think, ‘We could improve that in a digital world,’ the answer is, ‘Sure you could.’ But in that case, let’s do a central bank digital currency,” Warren told Todd. “Yes, I think it’s time for us to move in that direction.”

Warren also hinted that digital assets could face regulation. She used the financial crisis of 2007-2008 as a reason why there is need for regulation of the crypto market...

fromthetrenchesworldrepor...d-digital-currency/300903

President Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson refused to say if she holds a position on whether individuals have natural rights.

Jackson refused to comment on her beliefs on natural rights in a post-hearing written question and answer from members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. ..

Ketanji Brown Jackson Refuses to Say Whether Individuals Have Natural RightsNext, Cruz asked Jackson, “do you hold a position on whether individuals possess natural rights, yes or no?”

“I do not hold a position on whether individuals possess natural rights,” Jackson said.

Cruz called Jackson’s response “stunning” in a tweet sent Saturday evening. “This is stunning,” Cruz wrote. “The Declaration of Independence proclaims: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights….’ KBJ says she has ‘no position’ on whether this is true.”...

Other social media users called Jackson’s inability to answer the natural rights question “disqualifying” or a “trojan horse for tyranny.”

“This should be automatically disqualifying,” one user tweeted...

“If Judge Ketanji Jackson doesn’t recognize the natural rights given to us by our Creator – the literal bedrock of American values – she absolutely cannot be confirmed to the SCOTUS,” one user wrote. “This woman is a massive threat to basic human liberty. She’s a Trojan horse for tyranny.”...

“If we don’t possess natural rights, then the “self-evident” truths of the Declaration are simply a fiction. And Ketanji Brown Jackson and her colleagues become mere dispensers of Melian justice,” Tom Shakely tweeted...

“They believe our rights come from man. Simple as that,” Benjamin Weingarten tweeted...

whole article fromthetrenchesworldrepor...ave-natural-rights/300911

Say indeed they believe our rights come from man...or rather JEWS. She is obviously a Jew Tool:

Democracy = Communism = JUDAISM

"JUDAISM IS COMMUNISM

June 7th, 2016 Wake Up Fools

judaism is communism a forward by Texe Marrs to Frank L. Britton’s classic book, Behind Communism note – Atheism is the jewish belief that there is no right and wrong. Communism is the jewish belief that gentiles have no property rights. Globalism is the jewish belief that the planet is theirs. Judaism is the jewish belief that gentiles’ lives have no sanctity...

Solzhenitsyn’s sources recorded a staggering 66 million were victims of the communists. Churches were burned or turn into barns and brothels. Ministers and priests were taken to the gulag.

The Jews were convinced that their ”God”, whom Jesus Christ identified in Scripture as the ”Devil”, had given them the huge empire of the Soviet Union as only the first conquest in a coming string of global victories. The Talmud promises the Jew a Jewish Utopia. The entire world and all its non Jewish peoples are destined to serve as slaves for the supposedly superior Jews, says the Talmud....

“The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

At the time, the Jews in Russia made up only 1.5 percent of the total population. One and one half percent ! By cunning lies and manipulation and thanks to the money of Jewish bankers in Germany,Britain, and the United States, Russia fell, and Satan was able to do his dirty work...

Today, in the US, we have about 2.5 percent of the population that is Jewish. But the same forces are at work to destroy this nation. The Parasitical Jews are using the U.S. as proxy to conquer the Middle East. They have in their sights a new world order. The Jewish neocons, aided in their immense crimes by the deceived and naive Christian Zionists, will, if they have their way, do to America what Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin did to the vast Soviet Empire.

In 1920, Sir Winston Churchill, who later became Great Britain’s leader in World War II, wrote an editorial in the Illustrated Sunday Herald of London. He warned of a ”world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of ***arrested development (and) envious malevolence.”..."

www.jewworldorder.org/judaism-is-communism/

Talmudic Jews: Non-Jews Are Beasts To Serve Jews As Slaves. Each One Of Us Will Have 2800 Slaves.

2 1/2 minutes

www.goyimtv.tv/view?v=1158863115

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“If Judge Ketanji Jackson doesn’t recognize the natural rights given to us by our Creator – the literal bedrock of American values – she absolutely cannot be confirmed to the SCOTUS,” one user wrote. “This woman is a massive threat to basic human liberty. She’s a Trojan horse for tyranny.”...

Jews believe their SATANIC NOAHIDE LAWS ARE THE BEDROCK OF HUMANITY, THE "ROCK" ON WHICH THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED!! In fact, they had it written into the U.S. law [see NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS (and anyone else who won't bow down to this BEAST) www.spingola.com/Dannemeyer.html ], just like they did with the Federal Reserve Act...WHEN MOST OF THE CONGRESSMEN HAD LEFT THE BUILDING!... wherein they proceeded to steal our gold and silver, declare Americans "enemies of the state", concoct WARS FOR JEWISH SUPREMACISM, to BANKRUPT US, AND STEAL EVERYTHING IN SIGHT. They gave us their counterfeit dollars while completing their little agenda, and now they want to take those as well, and give the ones they don't murder outright with their joojab, allowance in the form of digital currency which they can control with their joojabs and 5G.

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AMERICA'S COVENANT WITH GOD

1607covenant.com/americas-covenant-with-god/

THE ENDURING LEGACY OF THE FIRST LANDING

...A cross was planted in the ground and a prayer was offered to heaven. The cross was planted literally, but it was also planted spiritually.

The event was the first landing of the Jamestown settlers. One hundred and four of them arrived at Cape Henry on April 26, 1607. We remember the event as the "First Landing," but it might be better known as "Covenant Day" for America.

The rude wooden cross they stuck in the Virginia ground was more than an ebenezer of thanksgiving to God's providence. In fact, it was an actual gauntlet thrown in the face of the enemies of Christianity. It was a legal and spiritual challenge to all comers that declared, "This land now belongs to Christ and His people."...

www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/

Matthew 21:38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and (steal) his inheritance.’

www.biblehub.com/matthew/21-38.htm

sorry. i got carried away.

Revelation 2:9, 3:9 can't come soon enough.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

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