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Title: Link to Telco Liability: Falkenrath Gets It Wrong
Source: Think Progress
URL Source: http://www.thinkprogress.org/
Published: May 14, 2006
Author: Think Progress
Post Date: 2006-05-14 12:14:57 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 71
Comments: 11

Telco Liability: Falkenrath Gets It Wrong

On Thursday, ThinkProgress argued that the telcos could be liable for tens of billions of dollars for turning over phone records to the government in violation of the Stored Communications Act. In this morning’s New York Times, law>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/13/washington/13phone.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1">law professor Orrin Kerr agrees:

Orin Kerr, a former federal prosecutor and assistant professor at George Washington University, said his reading of the relevant statutes put the phone companies at risk for at least $1,000 per person whose records they disclosed without a court order.

“This is not a happy day for the general counsels” of the phone companies, he said. “If you have a class action involving 10 million Americans, that’s 10 million times $1,000 — that’s 10 billion.”

In today’s Washington Post, Richard A. Falkenrath – former deputy assistant to President Bush – takes the opposite view. Here’s Falkenrath’s argument:

The three companies reported to have supplied telephone records to the NSA also appear to be acting lawfully….[T]he Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 explicitly permits telecommunications companies to provide customer records to the government if the government asks for them.

Actually, that’s false. The relevant portion of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act – known as the Stored Communications Act – explicitly prohibits voluntary or required disclosure of phone records to the government with several limited exceptions. (See 18 U.S.C. 2702-03.) As we explained here and here none of those exceptions apply.

It’s clear from his column that Falkenrath is obviously a huge fan of Michael Hayden, the administration, and the NSA program. That’s fine, but it doesn’t change the law or the telcos’ potential liability for turning over the phone records of tens of millions of Americans.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

So, can Congress now eliminate the telcos' liability by enacting legislation that grants them immunity, or is granting immunity for torts committed in the past prohibited retroactive legislation that would expunge legal rights that already exist?

aristeides  posted on  2006-05-14   12:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides, Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)

So, can Congress now eliminate the telcos' liability by enacting legislation that grants them immunity, or is granting immunity for torts committed in the past prohibited retroactive legislation that would expunge legal rights that already exist?

hmm good question.. similar question was asked re the new bankruptcy law.. (?)

Now if Congress would enact such legislation I'm sure there would much dissent from the 70%.. how would Congress then handle that?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-14   12:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

A way for Congress to immunize the telcos that I think Congress would certainly have the power to do would be to pass legislation indemnifying them. That would transfer the (apparently enormous) cost to the taxpayers.

aristeides  posted on  2006-05-14   12:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#3)

A way for Congress to immunize the telcos that I think Congress would certainly have the power to do would be to pass legislation indemnifying them. That would transfer the (apparently enormous) cost to the taxpayers.

No doubt then that is what will happen.. with the debt at the level it now is..what's a few more billions or trillions??

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-14   12:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#2)

Now if Congress would enact such legislation I'm sure there would much dissent from the 70%.. how would Congress then handle that?

The ex post facto clause applies to criminal matters AFAIK, but there might possibly be some argument that such a law would unconstitutionally impair the obligation of contracts. Would have to look at the law to know for sure.

"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-14   12:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#5)

There could be a separation-of-powers problem with Congress assuming an arguably judicial function.

aristeides  posted on  2006-05-14   12:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#5)

The ex post facto clause applies to criminal matters AFAIK, but there might possibly be some argument that such a law would unconstitutionally impair the obligation of contracts. Would have to look at the law to know for sure.

Hmm ..setting a precedent... then if so, then would it possibly impair all contracts or just particular types of contracts.. of course the fact that it would be unconstiutional wouldnt much matter to them.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-14   12:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: aristeides (#6)

There could be a separation-of-powers problem with Congress assuming an arguably judicial function.

Well that doesnt seem to be an issue with this administration either honestly.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-14   12:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#6)

There could be a separation-of-powers problem with Congress assuming an arguably judicial function.

Agree. Good issue spotter. :)

"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-14   12:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#7)

of course the fact that it would be unconstiutional wouldnt much matter to them.

That's increasingly evident with all three branches of government.

"Those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ----John F. Kennedy

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-14   12:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#10)

That's increasingly evident with all three branches of government.

Yeah those damned walls!! TEAR DOWN THOSE WALLS MR. BUSH!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-14   12:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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