Mike Yeadon, the former high-level Pfizer scientist who came out against the lockdowns and vaccines, did a new interview with James Delingpole last week.
Overall, I enjoyed the interview. There is a lot of information and so on.
However, the most interesting thing was that Yeadon said that hes being hounded by these no virus people. He basically said the exact thing that Ive said about the no virus people: they make a lot of good points, but they dont provide a mechanism for transmission. Its just a fact that contagion occurs everyone has had the experience of being around someone who is sick and getting sick as a result of it.
As Yeadon says, we even have serious disgust mechanisms hardwired into our psyche to avoid people who are showing signs of being ill. As far as I can tell, the no virus people just deny contagion altogether. Thomas Cowans book is literally called The Contagion Myth. Granted, I have not read it (I should), but Ive listened to these people talk a lot and read some of their articles, and I dont really think this is a serious position. I think they make consistently valid points about the undetectable nature of viruses, and the fact that viruses are ultimately just a theory. But claiming that sickness does not spread from person to person through whatever mechanism is not serious. We know that bacteria spreads as a contagion, so making the point that bacterial pneumonia actually caused the most deaths during the Spanish flu of 1918 is a really good point. But there is no attempt to claim that the modern seasonal flu (which is what coronavirus is a part of) is caused by bacteria.
At one point in the interview, Yeadon actually says the virus or whatever it is that is causing it, so I dont upset the virus people
This tells me that this no virus argument has gotten to him. Its gotten to me too although that doesnt really mean much, because Im not a 60-year-old scientist with some kind of commitment to the premises of modern medicine. But he does say that the entirety of virology could be fake. Which is interesting.
Ive come to the (tentative) conclusion that as a working theory about certain diseases, viruses are okay, but they should be marked as a theory. These people should not pretend like they can see viruses and identify them in an electron microscope, which is what most people think they can do. In reality, all they see in an electron microscope is blurry blobs that could be anything.
If you had an open discussion in academia, where no virus people were able to openly discuss their work and exchange ideas with virus shills like Anthony Fauci, we could probably get to the bottom of this. Im sure that people who believe in viruses have more than I saw it in an electron microscope. But the burden of proof for viruses is on the people promoting them, ultimately. I would feel better if the no virus people accepted contagion and just said well, we dont know what causes it, but its not caused by viruses that dont exist!
When you press these virus people you find that this theory is non-falsifiable. With the system they have set up, it is impossible to prove that viruses do not exist. They are too small to see.
Then when you think about it, a lot of these viruses are obviously fake: HIV, HPV, etc. All of these viruses are defined by conditions supposedly caused by these viruses, and it just ends up being a catchall unexplained liver disease? Oh, thats from the hepatitis virus. You must have had sex with someone or be using intravenous drugs, or maybe someone spilled blood on you. Its the same thing with homosexual immune systems collapsing nothing that gays are doing could make their immune systems collapse. So it must be a virus.
However, colds and flus definitely appear to spread from person to person, and I dont think denying that outright is a good strategy for understanding what is going on with all that.
Addendum
To be fair to the no virus people, here is the first part of a documentary from Andrew Kaufmann and Tom Cowan, who are the two biggest no virus people currently active online.
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